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spyroflameX August 12th, 2007 12:29 PM

Ice Shard...
 
Okay, let's say I have a Jolly Weavile EV trained in 252 Atk. Can an Ice Shard from it OHKO a 4x Dragon type? i.e. Garchomp, Salamence, etc.

bossman34 August 12th, 2007 12:33 PM

most likely. at the very most they will have under 25% health

spyroflameX August 12th, 2007 12:36 PM

Ah, okay, but also, would it be better to use Ice punch or Ice Shard?

bossman34 August 12th, 2007 12:40 PM

well when i use my weaville i use this..

Weaville @ Focus Sash
Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
-Swords Dance
-Night Slash
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break

keep in mind i use it as a lead. works very well.

Syaoran August 12th, 2007 2:50 PM

Ice Punch is better on Weavile, since he's speedy enough to handle it. Ice Shard is for slower pokes.

Azonic August 12th, 2007 5:00 PM

Weavile is wayy too fast for Ice Shard. Ice Punch does more damage and can freeze(my favorite status condition).

Akuchiki Byakuya August 12th, 2007 5:03 PM

I recommend donphan as the best ice shard, dragon killer.(can sustain around 5 percent damage from a swith into an earthquake from a garchomp)

Dawg 2005 August 12th, 2007 5:15 PM

Never give Ice Shard to a Weavile. His Special Attack is so terrible. D:

Ice Punch is the definite way to go.

Star★Seeker August 12th, 2007 5:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawg 2005 (Post 2747069)
Never give Ice Shard to a Weavile. His Special Attack is so terrible. D:

Ice Punch is the definite way to go.

Actually, Ice Shard is phisycal.Still IP FTW!

Gabriel- August 12th, 2007 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawg 2005 (Post 2747069)
Never give Ice Shard to a Weavile. His Special Attack is so terrible. D:

Ice Punch is the definite way to go.

Ice Shard uses its attack and not sp.attack just its base damage is low (40).

Shiraishi August 12th, 2007 7:15 PM

Weavile ish too fast. Ice punch all the way.

J-Rad August 13th, 2007 6:35 AM

Why the heck would u give weavile Ice shard. It is way too hard to out run a weavile. So u can replace ice shard w/ ice punch and an adamant nature u can OHKO almost any poke that ice is super effective on.

Shiraishi August 13th, 2007 7:54 AM

Adamant nature?o.0 A timid Alakazam can outspeed that and OHKO with focus blast =_= Jolly Weavile is much better.

Nightofshadow August 13th, 2007 8:14 AM

There is no problem with ice shard on weavile incase your opponent gets off way too many dragondances or your paralyzed. You still get that "go first action" and with stab it still hurts dragons

spyroflameX August 13th, 2007 8:57 AM

Alright, thanks for the replies people. Also, I was only thinking about adding Ice Shard over Ice Punch because I stop DD's and Agilties. xP Just a thought...


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