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BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 9:30 PM

SHINY POKE CHEATIN??
 
so i found this code for action replay to catch any poke in the wild shiny...is this cheating??

Goldenhammerhead August 12th, 2007 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747658)
so i found this code for action replay to catch any poke in the wild shiny...is this cheating??

oh...it is cheating BIGTIME!!!Do not trade those pokes here!

Ayano Katagiri August 12th, 2007 9:33 PM

As long as you use any sort of cheating device, (i.e. AR), you are in fact cheating.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 9:34 PM

why is that?? theres no change in stats from a normal poke...

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 9:35 PM

Chah dude, that's big-time cheating. Try Pokeradar. And try turning off the caps-lock button when you make a thread.

brotlov August 12th, 2007 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747673)
why is that?? theres no change in stats from a normal poke...

but you've cheated to get a shiny, people here won't trade with noobs who using cheating devices for shinies

Goldenhammerhead August 12th, 2007 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747673)
why is that?? theres no change in stats from a normal poke...

Lets see. IT changes the chance from 8170 to 1. CHEATING.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 9:38 PM

im no tryin to trade anybody i was just wonderin what other people thought about the shiny code

Ayano Katagiri August 12th, 2007 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747673)
why is that?? theres no change in stats from a normal poke...

It's the fact that you've altered the chances of getting a shiny Pokemon. No one likes hacking here, especially for shinys.

Goldenhammerhead August 12th, 2007 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747689)
im no tryin to trade anybody i was just wonderin what other people thought about the shiny code

Well now you know you dont use it here

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 9:41 PM

Well, if you never ever ever plan on using it in any online fashion and just keeping them to yourself, then it's fine. But you will be labeled a hacker for life if you try to use those around here at all, so make sure you keep whatever you cheat to get to yourself.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 9:46 PM

i respect the way yall feel about hackers and stuff i feel the same way i got a few losses on my record cuz some people want to be smart and have a swampert faster than my charizard but im still not convinced that this code is cheatin...yea maybe if you treasure the whole 1 out of 8000 chance you ever get to even run into a shiny poke but im talkin about the battle aspect of this theres no plus in pearl for havin a shiny other then the cute entrance when u throw your poke out

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 9:48 PM

I personally don't think it is cheating OHH big deal! He gets shinies. YOU DO TO! and you all know it! people can say they are legit all they want they are proabably Hacked!!! because the chances of there being THAT many shinies found are slim to none even if there ARE people playing all over the world....there is something for you to think about

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747719)
I personally don't think it is cheating OHH big deal! He gets shinies. YOU DO TO! and you all know it! people can say they are legit all they want they are proabably Hacked!!! because the chances of there being THAT many shinies found are slim to none even if there ARE people playing all over the world....there is something for you to think about

Yeah, OK. So you don't think that here, where there are literally hundreds of people that pass through our trade forums every day, and most are ultra-dedicated Pokeradar shiny hunters, that there couldn't be that many shinies? You're ignorant if you think that, considering the effort that people have been putting into shinies for this and past generations.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 9:50 PM

yea finally someone agrees with me i have over 550 hrs on my pearl and i have never ran into a shiny yet people have got multiple shinies of the same poke how is that possible...tell me

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747726)
yea finally someone agrees with me i have over 550 hrs on my pearl and i have never ran into a shiny yet people have got multiple shinies of the same poke how the **** is that possible...tell me

First of all, cursing, censored or not, is not allowed here, try to stray away from that.

Secondly, try using Pokeradar, maybe read a guide somewhere. It's not all going to be handed to you, you need to actually put some effort into finding stuff.

Ayano Katagiri August 12th, 2007 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747719)
I personally don't think it is cheating OHH big deal! He gets shinies. YOU DO TO! and you all know it! people can say they are legit all they want they are proabably Hacked!!! because the chances of there being THAT many shinies found are slim to none even if there ARE people playing all over the world....there is something for you to think about

O.o Eh?? Cheating to get a shiny, automatically labels someone as a hacker simply because they've altered the slim chances of even getting/seeing one.

The chances of a shiny being found, although 1/8192 can actually produce quite a lot of shinys in total, throughout the whole world since you're looking at that. There are methods of making shinys easier to find, (i.e. chaining) and some people do play just to look for shinys you know. You can't just go around saying everything is hacked just because the chances are so slim, people do get shinys and that's just how it is.

The dawn Witch Lucia August 12th, 2007 9:53 PM

Dude. A hack is a hack. Any code at all and it's hacked. It may only be shiny, but it's HACKED shiny. My shinies are legit etc etc. Actually LOOK for them, instead of wasting time by ev training or something.


xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 9:53 PM

I don't even know what a ultra-deticated shiny hunter thingy is, but if they are deticated don't they just go in grass like any other trainer?

Ayano Katagiri August 12th, 2007 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747740)
I don't even know what a ultra-deticated shiny hunter thingy is, but if they are deticated don't they just go in grass like any other trainer?

It means they specifically look for shiny Pokemon in areas where Pokemon can be found.

Or, by soft resetting for those Pokemon that are figured and don't run.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 9:57 PM

well...that makes no sense to me cause if "It means they specifically look for shiny Pokemon in areas where Pokemon can be found." wouldn't that be in grass, water,cave. or anyplace else you find a pokemon. and that is how people find REGULAR pokemon to?..i am confused O__O

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747740)
I don't even know what a ultra-deticated shiny hunter thingy is, but if they are deticated don't they just go in grass like any other trainer?

Well then I gues you're not as smart as you seem to want to carry yourself as. You do go in the grass to "shiny hunt", and you use the Pokeradar and chaining to eventually get yourself one.

Ayano Katagiri August 12th, 2007 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747760)
well...that makes no sense to me cause if "It means they specifically look for shiny Pokemon in areas where Pokemon can be found." wouldn't that be in grass, water,cave. or anyplace else you find a pokemon. and that is how people find REGULAR pokemon to?..i am confused O__O

Yes, but like say for grass fields, they can use methods such as chaining with Pokeradar to increase the chances of a shiny.

Melody August 12th, 2007 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by - Flavaquil - (Post 2747734)
Where are you coming from?? Cheating to get a shiny, automatically labels someone as a hacker simply because they've altered the slim chances of even getting/seeing one.

The chances of a shiny being found, although 1/8192 can actually produce quite a lot of shinys in total, throughout the whole world since you're looking at that. There are methods of making shinys easier to find, (i.e. chaining) and some people do play just to look for shinys you know. You can't just go around saying everything is hacked just because the chances are so slim, people do get shinys and that's just how it is.

I agree. If you alter the game's code to obtain a shiny pokemon you are in fact cheating. It cheapens the value of a shiny pokemon when cheaters try to trade them. Nobody wants a hacked pokemon. They are worthless and unusable on PBR for the Wii. What if someone wants to use their poke on PBR after you trade it to them and it gets Bad egg'd? You'd be responsible because only HACKED pokemon turn into a bad egg when they come into contact with this game.

I'll tell you once again.
USING A CHEATING DEVICE TO OBTAIN SHINY POKEMON IS CHEATING!!!

You will never convice the members or the staff of this community otherwise. It has alredy been decided. That is the communities official stance.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:00 PM

i used the pokeradar all the time and no shiny but i did manage to get the pokerus sometime around 300 hrs of game play does that stand for anything...

Ayano Katagiri August 12th, 2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747771)
i used the pokeradar all the time and no shiny but i did manage to get the pokerus sometime around 300 hrs of game play does that stand for anything...

I've played in total, over 1000+ hours and have never seen a shiny before. And red Gyarados doesn't count.

brotlov August 12th, 2007 10:02 PM

this thread is getting a little out of hand

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:03 PM

i don't think so it is just a discussion

brotlov August 12th, 2007 10:04 PM

heated discussion, if you look at all the posts, people are going a bit over the top

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by brotlov (Post 2747777)
this thread is getting a little out of hand

Then push the report button instead of SPAMming. SPAMming is out of hand.



Regarding not catching a shiny in 500+ hours, that just means you need to keep trying. If you never catch one, then so be it, you trade for some. That's what I did, and I'm up to 3 boxes full now.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:05 PM

he didn't spam....he posted 2 things and they arent double/triple posted or anything

Myoko-chan August 12th, 2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747771)
i used the pokeradar all the time and no shiny but i did manage to get the pokerus sometime around 300 hrs of game play does that stand for anything...

You have to CHAIN! AKA encounter the same pokemon over and over again.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:09 PM

there is like no way to do that!!...well obviously there is BUT, there are so many pokemon that appear in one place..

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xxshayminx (Post 2747795)
You have to CHAIN! AKA encounter the same pokemon over and over again.

Exactly, it's all about patience and execution. You just need to know what you're doing when you chain, and hope for a little good luck too.

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747790)
he didn't spam....he posted 2 things and they arent double/triple posted or anything

For the record, SPAM is defined as:
Stupid
Pointless
Annoying
Message(s)
(i.e what you just did too)

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:12 PM

well yeah, we "spammed" under your opinion of spamming

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:12 PM

tragicnightmare ur too koo i feel exactly how u feel chainin doesnt help cuz i would kill for a shiny rhydon and where u find him only 2 other pokemon are in the area and still nuttin

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:14 PM

i know i can see what they are saying about them being hacked... but what i don't get is all they are is dif. colors. i don't see why people can't think of them as legit when they are the same pokemon just shiny

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747805)
well yeah, we "spammed" under your opinion of spamming

"Under my opinion"? No, under the forum rules' opinion. First rule on the list. Try reading them.

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747807)
tragicnightmare ur too koo i feel exactly how u feel chainin doesnt help cuz i would kill for a shiny rhydon and where u find him only 2 other pokemon are in the area and still nuttin

That just means you need to keep trying. I know where you're talking about, near Stark Mountain, and it's pretty hard to chain there considering how small the grass patches are. Just keep trying, you'll get it eventually.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:18 PM

exactly i just wouldnt trade one to anyone because there arent "legit" in PBR so they say ive never tried using one on there

Extric August 12th, 2007 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747807)
tragicnightmare ur too koo i feel exactly how u feel chainin doesnt help cuz i would kill for a shiny rhydon and where u find him only 2 other pokemon are in the area and still nuttin

It's because you aren't chaining right. A guide on chaining can be found here. Read the guide and practice with the PokeRadar and you should eventually come across a shiny. I've gotten four boxes full of shiny Pokémon and most of them came from chaining.

Steve Z August 12th, 2007 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfie1177 (Post 2747733)
First of all, cursing, censored or not, is not allowed here, try to stray away from that.

Secondly, try using Pokeradar, maybe read a guide somewhere. It's not all going to be handed to you, you need to actually put some effort into finding stuff.

Sorry to go so far back in the thread. But one thing about chaining. It can't work as much as people say it does. Most of the Pokemon worth getting shiny, roam where Floatzel are, and Floatzel always break chains. I do not thing hacking shinies with AR is considered bad, I don't think cloning or item hacking is bad either. Hacking an item to get you the god of all pokemon, which you can't even use in the battle tower, or most fights because of people not wanting ubers. I agree with BOYBOY on this whole issue. Shiny pokemon are nothing but misscolored pokemon, and most of the shiny pokemon you find have crappy natures anyway.

HoundoomOfTheDarkness August 12th, 2007 10:21 PM

Do you even need to ask if that is cheating?! Why don't you ask my friend and his 200-odd Action Replay shinies if that's cheating?!

YES IT'S CHEATING!!!

...sorry. I get a little mad when it comes to Action Replay stuff.

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Haunter Master (Post 2747831)
Sorry to go so far back in the thread. But one thing about chaining. It can't work as much as people say it does. Most of the Pokemon worth getting shiny, roam where Floatzel are, and Floatzel always break chains. I do not thing hacking shinies with AR is considered bad, I don't think cloning or item hacking is bad either. Hacking an item to get you the god of all pokemon, which you can't even use in the battle tower, or most fights because of people not wanting ubers. I agree with BOYBOY on this whole issue. Shiny pokemon are nothing but misscolored pokemon, and most of the shiny pokemon you find have crappy natures anyway.

Sigh, I give up on this issue. Obviously those of you saying that AR-shiny catching is OK don't have much integrity. Pokemon these days have become something that people can collect, and hacking to get rare collectables is like stealing rare collectables. Obviously Pokemon aren't going to triple in value or something like that, but it's still nice to have teh feeling that you have a collection that wasn't cheated to get. That's where I will leave my opinion on this matter.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:24 PM

i 100% agree! just like I THINK cloning is CHEATING ALSO because you arent getting it the right way!, since that is basically what you guys are basically saying

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:27 PM

i think that cloning is just retarted i would never do it just cuz i could raise a better poke than just cloning one but i guess if ur into that i dont really think its cheatin either...thanks hauntermaster for agreeing with me

HoundoomOfTheDarkness August 12th, 2007 10:31 PM

If I wanted to clone, I'd have an army of level 100 EV trained Houndooms. Do I have this army? No. Would I like this army? Very much so, but I'm not gonna clone my Houndoom.

However, need I remind everyone that the thread is about Action Replay shinies, not cloning?

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:32 PM

yea i feel u wolfie with the "value feelin" on pokemon but i look them at a battle standpoint they dont alter stats in anyway or learn moves that they shouldnt they just look koo...some of them lol others just look straight carebear lookin haha

Extric August 12th, 2007 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xxTragicNightmare (Post 2747838)
i 100% agree! just like I THINK cloning is CHEATING ALSO because you arent getting it the right way!, since that is basically what you guys are basically saying

:\ I don't think anybody was talking about cloning in this topic.

I didn't put my own opinion in my last post so I'll do it now. Using an AR to change the chances of encountering a Pokemon in the wild or through hatching an egg from 8192 to 1 is cheating. I don't mind if you keep it in your game but once you start trading hacked shiny Pokemon then I will have not problem labeling you a hacker. I view trading hacked shiny Pokemon like selling counterfeit items, pirated movies, etc.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:32 PM

so, i was just mentioning it no big deal, BOYBOY had no problem with it

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:38 PM

yea i would never trade them that would really be a lack of integrity on my part

Steve Z August 12th, 2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfie1177 (Post 2747837)
Sigh, I give up on this issue. Obviously those of you saying that AR-shiny catching is OK don't have much integrity. Pokemon these days have become something that people can collect, and hacking to get rare collectables is like stealing rare collectables. Obviously Pokemon aren't going to triple in value or something like that, but it's still nice to have teh feeling that you have a collection that wasn't cheated to get. That's where I will leave my opinion on this matter.

Integrity? Me and you are 17 years old, and we are fighting about Pokemon, pretty, shiny Pokemon. How much integrity do you have now, eh? Now think of it this way:

You are a 27 year old guy, you have a nice apartment in a nice town outside of a nice city. And you get the chance of robbing a jewelry store, you wouldn't do that, of course. But putting in a series of numbers to make an electronic sprite sparkle? Thats bad? I have one hacked Pokemon in my game as far as I know, and that's the level 5 Mew I tested the GTS with, which just got released. I would much rather have a box full of shiny Pokemon and get away with it, then have a case of diamonds and get sent to prison.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:46 PM

HAHA that is so true! nice way of putting it!

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:47 PM

i couldnt have said it any better myself nicely put

*MiSs_MaGiUs* August 12th, 2007 10:50 PM

I'm gonna jump in here and ask a question. All my shinies I recieved through trading and I have mad respect for all the shiny hunters who dedicate their time to actually finding shinies. My question is, these people with like 40 different shinies, do they actually go out and find them all because that is amazing considering the chances. No one will answer my question and I was just wondering because I always thought they were recieved through a cheating device with the chances. Im also not accusing anyone of cheating I just think these people are crazy lucky if they actually have found them all because I've spent tons of time chaining and soft reseting haven't found one yet.

wolfie1177 August 12th, 2007 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747866)
yea i would never trade them that would really be a lack of integrity on my part

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Originally Posted by BOYBOY (Post 2747898)
i couldnt have said it any better myself nicely put

Do I smell a hypocrite?

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Originally Posted by Haunter Master (Post 2747883)
Integrity? Me and you are 17 years old, and we are fighting about Pokemon, pretty, shiny Pokemon. How much integrity do you have now, eh? Now think of it this way:

You are a 27 year old guy, you have a nice apartment in a nice town outside of a nice city. And you get the chance of robbing a jewelry store, you wouldn't do that, of course. But putting in a series of numbers to make an electronic sprite sparkle? Thats bad? I have one hacked Pokemon in my game as far as I know, and that's the level 5 Mew I tested the GTS with, which just got released. I would much rather have a box full of shiny Pokemon and get away with it, then have a case of diamonds and get sent to prison.

Ok, obviously this isn't a case of getting sent to prison or something, but I just think that if you are an honest person in life that you shouldn't feel the need to cheat. I myself try not to cheat or cut corners and to do everything the right way, so that I don't end up feeling guilty about it later. I guess it makes me stupid if my conscience extends to something as trivial as Pokemon, but that's just me, I don't like to cheat.

Steve Z August 12th, 2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfie1177 (Post 2747914)
Do I smell a hypocrite?



Ok, obviously this isn't a case of getting sent to prison or something, but I just think that if you are an honest person in life that you shouldn't feel the need to cheat. I myself try not to cheat or cut corners and to do everything the right way, so that I don't end up feeling guilty about it later. I guess it makes me stupid if my conscience extends to something as trivial as Pokemon, but that's just me, I don't like to cheat.

I'm glad to see some purity left in the world, but dude, come on. Lighten up, you aren't cheating, I'm not cheating. I am just saying that for a person like me, if I had an Action Replay, using the shiny code is not a bad thing. I wouldn't be caught dead trading them. But just for the sake of having them. It's easier for the "good guys" us "bad guys" never get anything, so we make it artificially. Like shiny Pokemon. Take for example, art. I can't draw to save my life. But Photoshop helped me out there, look at my sig, I made that, aragorn made the Lucario though.

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 10:58 PM

personally i find it a waste of time to find shinies, and then trade them.

BOYBOY August 12th, 2007 10:58 PM

i respect that but what i dont like is be labled a "hacker" just cuz i got shiny poke usin the AR its not like a got poke with max stats or moves and abilities they shouldnt even have

xxTragicNightmare August 12th, 2007 11:00 PM

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i respect that but what i dont like is be labled a "hacker" just cuz i got shiny poke usin the AR its not like a got poke with max stats or moves and abilities they shouldnt even have
true, i do that but not in like a pokemon battle with pokesav there is a site where you DL legit pokemon so thats were i get my legit pokemon.

HoundoomOfTheDarkness August 12th, 2007 11:04 PM

I've harbored an intense hatred for the Action Replay ever since I first played Metroid Prime: Hunters on wi-fi. But that's beside the point.

If I can spend 2 years to gather 6 rather mediocre shinies, then I'm obviously going to be angry if someone decides "Hey, let's use an Action Replay to get 200 shinies in one night!"


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