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In any case it should be ported. It isn't remixed either, it's using the same instruments, it just sounds different because the sound engines in GBC and GBA are different. In my opinion, that track sucks... it only has 3 Channels and its the same as in Crystal GBC. Other tracks in Pokemon GBA roms can have up to 10 Channels. Just imagine the difference of having 3 instruments compared to 8,9 or 10. Plus it wouldn't fit overall between other tracks. Anyway, unless you completely port the track from RSE, Zel would have to change the instruments on the track to use the ones from another existent voicegroup (in other words, remix it) or either create a new voicegroup for a newly imported MIDI... Anyways Zel, be sure to re-check the Cherrygrove song, the volume is too high and sounds like it stands out too much from the rest of the tracks of the game. To my taste, the instruments don't blend much. It's just my opinion. I completely played Beta 4, but not Beta 5, so I don't know if you've re-inserted other tracks XD Great work though. |
It's kinda spamming...
Zel himself will understand it, and so will others. And there is nobody in this forum that doesn't speak english. Plus... using net translator sucks. It doesn't translate it well. Specially that part that translated "That track sucks..." The translated part sounded a little bit porno o_O lmao |
hey zel i see that you still didn't change the apricorn sprites yet.
Are you going to do that in the next beta? |
Cool Hack I have bin playing this game for a while now. Sweat but can you tell use something about evolving pokemon you normally have to trade to evolve?
Hey you changed some of the sprites for the starter Pokemon. Heh, nice. Hehe I just remembered that if you save state right before you pick the pokeball, you can try over and over without the risk of the wild pokemon healing, or dieing from poison, it's cool. Don't fix it please. O and you have to load and save state over and over. Here it is step by step. 1 save state when you are in the poke balls pocket. 2 pick poke ball. 3 if you don't catch the pokemon load state and repeat till you catch the pokemon. saves money and poke balls. |
if you play beta 5 can you update it without having to restart?
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Whats the best program to view the shiny gold dex? I tried Excel 2003 but I'm having problems with it.
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I use Excel 2003 and it works fine. Just click the up button or Ctrl+F and find which pokemon you want...
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I know you guys know the pokedex aint working, but did someone made a pokedex to see locations for some pokemon ? or do i need to ask it ?
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Hey there Zel! Ive been playing your hack and I must say it's something that no other rom hacker ever done. Well, I came over to say Hi and a lot of good luck for the hack. Until now, I have no things to add or criticize, so keep it up!
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By the way, there's an small correction I'd like to make: I forgot to expecify the Wingull locations. It's like this: Route 32, Safari Zone, south, west areas. It should be this way: Route 32. Surf: Safari Zone, south, west areas. Not anything big, but i'm really perfectionist. xD |
Don't expect updates very soon because of zel's exams.
You have to be patient and wait while zel does his exams for beta 6. Zel is going to make beta 6 as good as he can with a few new certain pokemon to be found... |
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Maybe he'll do the smart thing, and forget about hacking until after he's through college and has a steady job. |
During the part when Team Rocket invades Goldenrod`s Radio Tower , after you beat the fake director at the very top floor , & obtain the basement key , are the two pairs of people that were blocking the undergrounds suppose to leave ?
Because I got the key , but they`re not leaving , so I can`t get to the underground . D: Help would be appreciated . :x I don`t know what to do . |
Another problem I found is that I got to Mahogany Town before getting to Cianwood xD and I talked to this girl.. named AMELIA, and I was like, what the ?? who are you?Then after I beat Chuck and all that story, I understood the Amelia part XD
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Look if the game isn't acting as it should, its probably your ROM's fault ...and the fact that thousands of others disagree with you about the "sucks" remark |
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Hmm... The game is far from interesting, it's great, but to think that you made a comment that way, I considered three facts... (1) This is a wrong thread for your intentions, (2) you acquired a bad ROM and (3) you don't support Shiny Gold.
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I'm having problems with my rom. I went to save options and putted it to 128 K, but when I save, it says "Error: Please exchange backup memory." Can somebody help me here?
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to Zel:since a lot of people wants to no the list of hacks i have made one.i want to ask you if I can post it here?
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it's hilarious how I get every post deleted. W/e. Anyway I think Jagold has a point. Try making a pokemon gold exact remake yourself. It is really tuff.
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well well well long time no see zel man this hack is getting more fun my the moment =) keep it up ;)
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Hi everybody, I'm still quite busy studying for those evil exams coming up so, I doubt I'll be around (he... I even doubt I'll turn on my PC for a while... ToT)
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OK, out with the replying business. As you've read, I'm very busy with studying, and having to check PC only distracts me, that's why I'm gonna be closing the thread for a few weeks (at least, till March begins, as that's when my exams end). I'll also disable my PMing again (as many other times, anyway), because I dont really want to faint when I come back and check my PM box. Well, I'm not sure if I'll do anything during these weeks (probably not, because I guess I wont use the PC for a while to avoid temptations), so, think as if someone pushed the "Pause" button. Till March, people! Dont forget to check other hacks while I'm gone (and while I'm in as well :laugh:) |
but when I save states, I can't save it properly when I fight against the elite 4.
So does that mean you can't learn brick break? When I fought against Carlos in Shiny Gold X, his Ampharos knows how to use brick break. Grrr... which makes me kinda mad, cuz I was planning to teach that attack to my Ampharos. I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining, but don't you think you made too many rivals? Not that I mind, but sometimes, when one of the rivals come up to me, I would sometimes have trouble remembering which rival was which. It doesn't matter anyway, I just kinda find it amusing to see their reactions when they're defeated in a battle. ^^ |
The thread will be closed as zel will be busy studying, and will be re-opened whenever zel wants to.
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The creator has requested his hack to be opened.
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Baka!
zel, the thread's up. I wish to see some updates soon, okies? =3 And I wish you good luck on SG and in real life. ;) |
What the? Didn't see this.
Does this mean the beta's ready or are you just teasing us? :P |
super the thread is reopened I can't wait till beta 6
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heheheh so it open again huh? heheh interesting ^_^
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This is a great hack! This will hold me till the actual remakes come out.
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Nope, I didnt open it because I have the Beta, mainly I reopened it because:
1-I felt like talking about the game, since a lot of time passed (and maybe other people also wanted to talk about the game) 2-Having it open will put a bit more pressure on my shoulders, and that way I'll be more focused and less distracted (except for when I have to pay more attention to Uni's business) With that a bit more clear, the second thing to make clear is that: 1-Remember that we have the Help Thread here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123140, so, all the questions related to gameplay (how do Pokemon evolve, what should I do next, and so on), please make them there. 2-Before we get any kind of questions related when will be the Beta released (although you know it's against the rules), in an estimation it may be around two or three months. Of course, it's merely speculation, because the many variables in life may affect and change everything, you know that. 3-I'll just repeat it the whole process to avoid white screens/problems with saving/progressing after the E4, because it's so common that I'm sure we'll get them here sooner or later. It's inside this spoiler, so please read it if you are having problems: Spoiler:
So that's it for this first post. I'll do some update progress report on the next one. But, for now, I'll just update a few things: 1-There's a new walkthrough made by Aquilae, which I'm adding to the Tourist section, here's the link: http://www.freewebs.com/aquilae/shinygoldwalkthrough.htm, note that the lineups and levels are for the "X" version. 2-We'll have a bunch of new GSC music remixes for the next Beta, thanks to clonex25. Right now, here's a sample of the Champion (Lance) music, it's just not inserted on SG so there's still time to get some comments and if there are, critics or something to improve it (we'll read those comments so preferabily do them there if you are signed in youtube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L1y4qRxyM0 3-And, finally, I'm currently debating myself if I should use the Mystery Dungeon sprites for the legendaries and/or common Pokemon, the problem I have is that, mainly for the common Pokemon, they may be too big in comparation with the humans' sprites. So, I want to hear your opinion as well (maybe I should stick to only use the MD sprites for the bigger Pokemon?) |
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i think you should use them. The proportions of mini's are never right, i mean look at the ho-oh, lugia and the legendary birds in the game, way to big! This is just a suggestion, but maybe you can use dp-overoworld people in combination with the md sprites. There is a great guide on WAH that tells you how to 'redimensionar' the sprites, it helpt me understand HEX a bit :). But whenever i use MD sprites, i also find one problem, the colours. There are just a few palettes available for mini's. Anyway, good luck! |
Loving the music. The things you do are what separate Shiny Gold and Lustrous Silver.
btw, LS will be making a return soon. |
Hey Zel,
I have a few questions for you about the game: 1. How many masterballs are there going to be in the game, because there are a lot of legendary pokemon to catch in the game? 2. Are the Hoen legendary pokemon more difficult to find then the other legendary pokemon anyway, your hack is great Ps: sorry for my bad english, i'm dutch |
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Thanks for credit, but I think you should give the credit to Aquilae instead of me... |
I think you should just use the MD sprites for the bigger Pokemon. Using the sprites for the small Pokemon would look nicer, but also kinda weird comparing them with the people sprites. That's my opinion bud.
Glad to see ya back man, best wishes to you my friend. |
Zel, why not making a poll about MD sprites ? I would like to see all legendary pokemons with MD sprites. Just look on pokemon movies. Lugi is much bigger than humans. Also Legendary beast would look awesome with MD sprites (raikou has the best one in md). But this way you would have to make arrea where they sleep bigger (I don't see any problem in it :P)...
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is it possible to evolve a pokemon like haunter on this rom? it only evolves from a trade but i was excited about caughting gastly im not going to train if i cant get a gangar
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yes, Haunter evolves via level. try leveling it up to around 40 or so
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sweet thanks... yeah that will be a loong way away. one more question can i get a charmander on this game?
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Just check the Help thread whenever you have questions about gameplay, here: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=123140, or check the Tourist section in the first post of this thread, as there are a few tutorials and the "Shiny Gold Dex" which may help you finding the Pokemon you are looking for.
I'll read the comments and update and all of that when I return tonight. |
Dang that champion music is awesome. The thing i was looking forward to the most was wether or not that music would be in it and it sounds amazing. ive been playing the game and have been loving it Zel. Thanks for some great experiences.
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Wow the new Champion remix fits really well. Its going to be a nice addition to the game. As for the MD sprites; I have to say use them for legendaries (like Rayquaza) because the normal sprites just fail to make them appear as massive and epic as they should be. In any case, good luck with both SG and life in general.
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How did I notice notice this thread was opened? o.o;
Zel, I'll help around with this thread, since I'm on alot more than you are :D |
CHe! Zel.
That's good to see at least here in CP over these assets, in order, I say that if you come to Green City and there is a disaster mapping, but nope nothing happens ... I think ... But the record that I = CRAVER, I am going to translate into Spanish the Shiny Gold ... Zel in order to say no more luck and I wish you bon voyage ... We will in any Occasion... Suerte Papà! |
Dude, welcome back. Good luck on your next betas, they've all been awesome so far!
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hullo zel nice hack you got there!
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hey zel is a remix of the team rocket hideout going to be in the next beta i really want to hear that song remixed
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elow there zel.
I was playing beta 5 earlier today, and I noticed this little glitch. Dunno if it has been reported, but here's the video... :\ |
Hey Zel, if you're still thinking about the use of PMD sprites, then here's my suggestion:
I agree with you on the fact that using them for the more common pokemon would make them look highly disproportionate to the people around them, making the only good use of those sprites for legendaries, but maybe you could also use them for the overworld pokemon that are generally already big (i.e. Gyarados, Snorlax, etc.) |
hey, im new 2 the forums... and hacks in general
downloaded shiny gold 2day and havent been able 2 do anything else all day lol i just realised i was playing an older beta of the game so i patched beta 5, but now when i hit the start button(try 2 open the menu) it crashes.... any ideas? did i patch it wrong.... should i use a fresh rom? |
So, I guess then I must stick with having the MD sprites for the massive Pokemon, then... Would that count Mew and Celebi? (because they are small, but their FR sprite are not that nice, but then, the MD ones may be too big... What would I do there?)
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Alright, now, in terms of updates, let me do a review about stuff that is finished, stuff that is planned and, and stuff... *In terms of storyline, all the mapping and scripting is complete. The only thing that is left is touching the levels of the Pokemon for the second round of the Elite4 (I havent taken the game so seriously to have a good idea of which levels should I give them, but most likely, as the second round is supposed to be optional, expect it to be high... no, not lv100!) *Speaking of the second round, let me tell you that I've read some strategies guides, so I put good moves combinations (some of the elite4 will have some new Pokemon as well), let's hope they wont so stupid of using them wrong. Gah, AI will mess with everything, I'm sure of it >o< *Reviewing, you'll be able to catch 2 legendary Pokemon (one is the obvious Lugia, the second I cannot tell you), besides, there will be the appearance of two more that cannot be caught yet. *As you have seen, there will be some more GSC music tracks, I doubt we'll have them all (in fact, I wouldnt want to have them all inserted yet), probably some of the tracks that I inserted on the B5 will be removed. *I still havent started the Beta testing and the bug fixing, but I want to have less bugs than in B5. Besides, with Advance Map 1.9 (which I'm still not using, as I dont see it too stable yet) some of the bugs can be gotten rid of. *It's not really important (to me), but there will be the possibility of trading with RSE, after speaking with Oak and letting him register you as a "Professional Trainer" (keep in mind that you may deny and the chance wont be given again) *And then, there's the stuff that I still have to work on before starting with the Beta testing phase, which are the thinking of two or three more puzzles for the Trick House, and a few mini games to waste some playing time. About the mini games I'll mention more in the future, as I have done some already while some others I have a good idea of how to make them, and there may be one or two that I'm still not sure how to do it, but the idea's there. Phew... That's all I had for the update report. Now you should wait till I work a bit more and I'll be showing a few screenshots or talking about game's stuff from time to time. |
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Well, as far as the rest of the project goes, I bestow upon you any luck that I don't need (meaning pretty much all of it), and I pray that you don't have any heart attacks over the amount of posts you'll likely be getting in this thread. |
This is a really nice hack, Zel! So, do you plan on finishing it?
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Hey zel, I love the Champion Battle Music.
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Also, since trading with R/S/E isnt a priority, is there going to be an event for Groudon and Kyogre that involves Brendan and May? Their sprites are in the game for the Multi-player capacity, but it would be nice for them to show up to help lay the foundation for that event and to battle trainers just beneath or equal to Red's ability (and it wouldn't waste sprites). |
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To SG guys out there: I'm still working out on the other themes. I'm glad that you've commented in my YouTube vid. This inspires me to have better works. If you want to hear some of my remixes (formally called arrangements), PM me and I'll give you the links. |
LOL..... I remember removing the stones at the Saffron City, after I got annoyed and can't get passed lol.....
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i we patched the game with smartIPS an i started it in No$GBA 2.6a and i can't go downstairs in in the start of the game (my room) and when i press enter/start button i get an error: "image room crashed" plz help me i wan't to play this game (sry for bad english) EDIT: can somebody send me a patched version that works plz |
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Whoa only just found out that the topic re-opened. I like the sound of the new updates, and the music that clonex25 is making :).
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About smal legends. Imho they should stay the way they are in FR. Only bigger legends like: lugia, ho-oh, legendary dogs needs MD sprites. Dunno about legendary birds...
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thanks for the reply zel cant wait until you finish your hack and why are some of the remixes being removed personally I thought they were great
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yay zel is back. great 2 see you are alive and well. i have just one question though,
will the pre-evolutions and evolutions of pokemon that are in this game but didnt enter the series until diamond and pearl be in this game. E.G : happiny, yanmega, magmortar etc. if not it doesnt matter but in my oppinion it would make the game more realistic |
I'm pretty sure there won't be D/P pokemon, considering its a hack of FireRed, and is supposed to be a remake of Gold/Silver.
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Zel, do you still need someone to do sprites for stuff like the Apricorns and the GS Ball? Cause I have sprites for those items (see attached) and Im willing to help with any others you need. Im sorry if the apricorn doesnt quite look right, Im still working on them.
Edit: I've added the Apricorn source material as well (since the only time an apricorn was seen was in the Anime thats what it's based on) |
well don't acorns have little points at the end?
your acorn looks more like an eggplant but it still looks pretty good. The G.S ball looks great so i can't complain. but you should've kept the thread closed until there were big updates. Too many people are starting to spam here now. |
Wasn't the GS ball event already made? I mean you can get celebi.
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yes but he is changing it to that of gold/silver not fire red.... :p (at least i think there is one in fire red....) i dunno but hes using gold/silver's gs ball event..
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About the small legends, for celebi I dont know but for mew couldn't you use his emerald sprite?
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I just wanna say i really love this Hack, in fact it's the best one i downloaded off here IMO. Cheers to Zel and everyone who contributed in making it, it's one of the enjoyable games i played. It's so different that you can't really tell its a hack (Not very sure about that), so kudos to you for that. I couldn't comment on this earlier since it was closed. Good luck on the next beta/finishing the game, I'd really like to go farther than Saffron City.
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Im verry in pressed
You do a nice job keep up the good work Its fun to play this game on my psp with GPSP Its almost like a GBA Like I sayd B4 Keeping going ^^ ...... 1 Question ..... Whats shiny gold X ? if I may Ask ....... Sorry that I ask/say THere is a healing problom @ Lavender town ..... Im am wondering how manny Peeps got that ..... |
Shiny gold X is basically the same as the normal Shiny gold except that Zel has gone in and raised the levels of the trainers pokemon to make the game more challenging for those who feel he regular game is too easy.
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why are guys posting sprites?
if zel needed them he would ask.... nice to see you back zel, continue your amazing work! |
Zel, are we gonna expect a lot of surprises in B6?
Cool Champion music, I can't wait for the Elite 4 music and the gym leaders in both region. |
First thing is: Dont worry about item's sprites. It has never been a priority, and it'll be probably one of the last things to change in the last release. So, dont post anything on the thread, and, if you want to show me anything, just do it in a PM.
The second thing (mainly for the new people) is that you should remember there's a FAQs section in the first post, with all that has been commonly asked in the hack's history (imagine a lot of stuff asked and answered there). Reading the FAQs will surely help you getting rid of some of your questions. Quote:
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I'll just put most of the stuff I've thought through all this time. Although, probably I should reserve some ideas for the future ;) So, I just edited some OW palettes and now I will start touching a few overworlds to make room for the legendaries that will show up on the field. All the legendaries will use the MD sprites, even Mew and Celebi (I'll just touch them a bit, removing a few pixels, to make them a bit less big, compared to the hero), so with that, concludes the whole MD thing. That's all for now. But I'm gonna rewrite my list of stuff to do in the Progress Report section in the first post, check that out to have a small idea of how much I need to before releasing the Beta (just an idea, because I cant tell how much time I'll be busy with that, and with the rest of my life in the middle...) |
Any progress in getting hero new sprites (ow and battle ones)? I remember you said someone was working on them.
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please dont change the hiro sprites i will be appauled!!! infact i will replace them back with the old ones in my personal copy if you do.......*huffs*
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Glad to see this open again Zel :]
I'd suggest just using the MD sprites for the large/legendary pokemon. |
mate? where have you been? sometimes u need to realize that zel works quite hard and has been working a long time on this hack, u seem an intelligent person however, so i'll make this blunt.
The hack is clearly a hit already and he is giving it his all. And there is no sight of "Official" 2nd gen remakes from nintendo. Believe me mate, I keep tabs on all things gaming and nintendo will most likely remake them someday but there isn't any signs atm |
Well Now i can play again.YAY!
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The game is already quite a hit, obviously. And zel has addressed the volume issues (right zel?) :)
I do like the Champion music quite a bit, myself. |
Yo guys, dont start bashing into other people because they posted their opinion. Because that kind of attitude later makes other people think bad of the supporters of this hack. I have learned to listen to all kinds of critics, so you should as well. I'll reply showing my point of view during this post.
@oli25: I need to catch up with Marnic on msn (I havent been using it often), I'll tell you by then, but in the end, it would be no problem to wait till the final release. @darfurby: The only problem is in the fact that after allowing everyone to use them, I'm starting to feel like it would be good to change them. Yeah, I know I did them myself and I'm a little proud on them, but still, seeing them on other hacks is enough to still be proud... :P @Erimgard: Yeah, I'll be using the MD sprites in the end. @GeorgeLama: Alright, I'll give you my answer to your 3 and 4, and in my opinion it's very logical: Who says I want to compete against Nintendo? They are a whole company with hundreds of people dedicated into this, while I'm just a guy (who receives the help of a bunch of people) and does this for a hobby. Who wins in the end? They, of course, as they have the resources and the motivation (money) for doing their work as perfect as it can in order to satisfy the masses. I will keep on doing stuff in my unperfect way, trying to improve, but not getting crazy about perfection. That's my motto. I hope that with that, 3 and 4 are answered for you. Now, about the other things, I think I said it clearly when I released the Beta: I still dont have enough experience in the musical department to make them sound good. Luckily, clonex does have it, and he'll help me from now on. The music will no longer be a problem. Whatever about Elm, so far the game is in Beta stage, sprites replacement can wait. That's what Betas are about, incomplete stuff released mainly for testing (and feedback) reasons. With that covered, please dont fall into discussions about if Nintendo will release a remake or not. It is not the intention of the thread. I just finished preparing the overworlds for insertion (with just three OW palette changes I covered all the legendaries colors. Weird, huh? but I promise they look as nice as in MD, in terms of colors). Now I need to touch the sizes of some overworlds, and prepare some slots of unused overworlds for the future additions *like Johto Gym Leaders* It's not much, but that's what I can tell so far for an update. I had to do a few things today, so I couldnt do much, sorry. |
We should challenge Nintendo to a winner-takes-all duel.
*Takes out gloves* Will the new Region be released in one Beta or will it be like anywhere else and split up into two or three? Are you intending to have anymore anime influence? I've noticed small ammounts (eg. Ashley, Team Rocket) but I was curious whether there would be anymore. Keep Hacking :) |
This threads over 2000! (vegeta refrence to its over 9000!)
Anyweh new ow, new music I cant wiatfor beta 6 but the longer you wait for th meal and the longer you salivate for it the tastier it gets. In other words the beta will rock |
Hey, zel. I have an idea to maximze the music slots in FireRed.
Instead of using three songs in the Intro Message part of the game, use only one, and I am suggesting the GSC Menu Theme for that. |
Zel, I'm glad that you're back with your hack. I really enjoyed your previous BETA games.
I hope that this hack will be finished soon. Good luck |
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