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Lil MuDkiP849 August 15th, 2007 11:00 PM

The team im planning for PBR...need help!!
 
The team went 5-1 but the wins were soooooooo close and i wana prevent the edged wins from happening...check it out

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Timid
EV's- 252 Speed, 144 Sp. Def., Sp. Atk 108
Psychic
Substitute
Calm Mind
Shadow Ball

This thing is literally dead fast, OHKO's alot of psychic types and ghosts, and it beats gengar in speed (well, least the ones on PBR i faced) sub. saved my but from toxic so many times its not even funny so thats staying, and calm mind to boost stats.

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Brave
EV's- 240 Attack, 124 HP, 144 Defense
EQ
Stone edge
Megahorn
Shadow Claw

Standard physical tank. Usually OHKO's anything thats super effective, or has decent defense. I usually pair it up with Dusknoir in case it's type weaknesses come around, especially fighting...

Scizor
Serious
EV's- Attack 252, Defense 120, Sp. Def.- 148
Night Slash
X-scissor
Iron Head
Brick Break

Quick claw is there for a lucky shot at killing first, it's attack is nasty and i usually switch it out if i know something is going to blow it up with fire. It's a tank for special and normal defense when needed too though.


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Hardy
EV's- HP 200, Speed 160, Sp. Atk 104, Sp. Def 44
Hidden power(Fighting) - This helped more then it looks
Aqua Ring
Surf
Ice Beam

I personally think his moveset sucks and ill prolly have to re-breed another jus form looking at it but if its good then well alright =) Might replace this with the Weavile i have in the PC though


Drapion
Jolly nature
Toxic Spikes
Whirlwind
X-scissor
Crunch

Okay, this is the Drapion i have planned. It's the spiker of the team and tanks in terms of defense. Havent come up with EV's yet so suggestions here would be nice.

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Quiet
EV's- Hp 72, defense 144, special attack 144, special defense 148
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Calm Mind/Nasty Plot (i cant decide which is better)
Shadow sneak(Come from behind victory hehehe ;) )

Slow...but worthwhile in the long run. Hypnosis for annoyance, then calm mind/nasty plot up for a quick kill, and restore health with lefties while their asleep. But if there's a better moveset plz suggest some.

SOOOO...this is my first posting for a team on this forum and my first attempt and one....i posted it so i can get sugestions, fixes, you know the werks...so anything??

Lil MuDkiP849 August 15th, 2007 11:16 PM

Anybody?????????? I really need to know what i need to improve on/change

Anti August 15th, 2007 11:27 PM

Nuetral Natures are a no-no. No glaring weaknesses I see. Dusknoir needs the defense EVs in HP, keep the special defense. Carful Narue for Dusknoir as well.

Lil MuDkiP849 August 15th, 2007 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2760526)
Nuetral Natures are a no-no. No glaring weaknesses I see. Dusknoir needs the defense EVs in HP, keep the special defense. Carful Narue for Dusknoir as well.


Okay thats cool i just need another reaper cloth from someone unfortunately =/

Anti August 15th, 2007 11:35 PM

Oh yeah, quick claw as well as all other hax items like scope lens are banned from online competitive play. Get rid of Sp. D EVs on Scizor and put in HP and defense EVs in their place.

Lil MuDkiP849 August 15th, 2007 11:38 PM

Quick claw is banned? darn....well then, what item shuld i replace it with??

Shiraishi August 15th, 2007 11:49 PM

Leftovers on espeon? It's usually OHKOd by stuff like Earthquake so maybe Life Orb/Choice Specs is a better option. Looks like a stalling team to me. You need a spiker(SRer)a phazer and a spinner. Also, you lack a physical sweeper. Rhyperior cant sweep obviously.

Lil MuDkiP849 August 15th, 2007 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2760565)
Leftovers on espeon? It's usually OHKOd by stuff like Earthquake so maybe Life Orb/Choice Specs is a better option. Looks like a stalling team to me. You need a spiker(SRer)a phazer and a spinner. Also, you lack a physical sweeper. Rhyperior cant sweep obviously.

It is a stalling team basically.

And like i said below vaporeaon i was thinking of replacing it with Weavile which...of course, is a physical sweeper.
And for a spiker i was actually thinking about making a Drapion with toxic spikes+whirlwind now THAT'S nasty ;)

But who should i take out/leep in for these new ideas??

Shiraishi August 15th, 2007 11:58 PM

Eh, when you get a wall/tank the most important thing to look at is HP. Not Def/Sp def, but HP :/ HP is why shuckle fails as a wall and wy dusknoir isn't so heavily used. Dorapion has a weakness to ground which is NOT good..

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2760588)
Eh, when you get a wall/tank the most important thing to look at is HP. Not Def/Sp def, but HP :/ HP is why shuckle fails as a wall and wy dusknoir isn't so heavily used. Dorapion has a weakness to ground which is NOT good..

Yea i know but still thats his ONLY weakness though, i mean yea there's EQ but thats pretty much it, im pretty sure i can give it a good def. natures with IV's/EV's to make it nasty.
If anything i'd be more afraid of a quick special sweeper coming down with shadow ball on the drapion im planning(it's probable)
but usually whenever a big weakness comes i usualy switch to something that takes the hit and shrugs it off.

Speaking of shadow ball, i might replace Rhyperior with a Lopunny im also planning which will be a bane of ghost types and give my team magic coat which'll be nifty =)

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 12:13 AM

Added in drapion..tell me what u guys think

Shiraishi August 16th, 2007 12:41 AM

EQ is the most common physical attack. Anything except steelix that is weak to that fails.

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2760636)
EQ is the most common physical attack. Anything except steelix that is weak to that fails.

Well i dun wana use skarmory as a spiker cuz i tried that and it sucked horribly thanks to it's electric weakness mainly, but do u have a suggestion?

Shiraishi August 16th, 2007 12:46 AM

Skarmory can take a thunderpunch and still live. Just switch to dusknoir if he is ur special wall >_>

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 12:51 AM

i know for a fact thunderPUNCH but im talking like thunderBOLT
i cant tell you how many times a physic type jus bolts me from behind the back before getting my spikes strat up

Shiraishi August 16th, 2007 1:11 AM

Why in the name of pie would you keep skarmory in play on a special sweeper?

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 1:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2760664)
Why in the name of pie would you keep skarmory in play on a special sweeper?

Well i didnt expect the guy's gardevoir to have a thunderbolt handy and i sure did learn my lesson =/
But i tried whirlwinding it cuz i thought it was guna use a move that wasnt effective ah whatever you get the point.

Thing is with more pokes having acces to thunderbolt i really dont wana use skarmory =/

EDIT: And i like pie =)

Shiraishi August 16th, 2007 1:51 AM

Well, the only threat to skarmory is a [insert random dragon] with fire blast or electivire. Other good physical walls are weezing(levitate :D)forretress(Rapid spin and spikes!)Steelix..and Tangrowth.

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 1:59 AM

Tangrowth sounds interesting...never heard of him before, what is he new evolved form of tangela??

....details/abilities/moves/ideas for EV's sets would be nice :D

Shiraishi August 16th, 2007 3:58 AM

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Dunno which ability
Impish/Relaxed
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
Power Whip
Sleep Powder
Knock Off
Leech Seed

Yea, he evos from tangela.

Angelic Diablo August 16th, 2007 4:00 AM

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Chlorophyll (sp?)
Some Nature
252 Sp Atk, some other EVs
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-HP Fire
-Synthesis

Yes, somewhat lazily put together, but it could be effective, HP Fire to cover those that resist Solarbeam (namely grass/bug/steel types)

Azonic August 16th, 2007 6:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2760565)
Leftovers on espeon? It's usually OHKOd by stuff like Earthquake so maybe Life Orb/Choice Specs is a better option. Looks like a stalling team to me. You need a spiker(SRer)a phazer and a spinner. Also, you lack a physical sweeper. Rhyperior cant sweep obviously.

It could sweep. But most use it for tanking purposes. It has fantastic Attack, Defense, and HP.

Lil MuDkiP849 August 16th, 2007 1:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cakekun (Post 2760955)
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Dunno which ability
Impish/Relaxed
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
Power Whip
Sleep Powder
Knock Off
Leech Seed

Yea, he evos from tangela.

I think i reallly like this set alot.
Who should i replace it with on my current team?

Shiraishi August 16th, 2007 6:10 PM

Drapion I guess X_x(Filler~)


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