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swordkirby537 June 9th, 2004 5:39 PM

Dub or Sub?
 
Well I like it dubbed unless its dubbed by a crappy company like 4kids. I'd rather see it subtitled than butchered to ****.

(EDIT: Why is H-E-L-L censored? Just curious.)

Kairi June 9th, 2004 5:56 PM

Oh, subbed definitely. Some of the dubs done these days—mostly by CN on Adult Swim aren’t bad perse—I’ve just grown to dislike English voices, especially in video games. I’m already quite comfortable with closed captions for regular TV anyways. Reading doesn’t bother me at all.

jj984jj June 9th, 2004 6:02 PM

Subbed all the way! Down with the dub! *lol* Anyway as you can see, I chose subtitled because I think most dubs either make too edits, their voice actors completely suck or they can't act 1/2 as good as the Japanese ones and the characters emotion isn't protrayed properly. And of course 4Kids is like the master of doing all of the above. :P Sometimes there is also the case of bad translation like 4Kids did with Mewtwo Strikes Back and Pokemon Heroes.

Kenny_C.002 June 9th, 2004 6:04 PM

Subbed. I mean, the only 2 dubs that aregood are InuYasha and Gundam Wing...whereas subs they're all good.

Cherrim June 9th, 2004 6:04 PM

A lot of members are uptight about stuff like that, so it's probably just best that we keep it censored. @[email protected];

But anyway, I love subs. ^_^; Something about being able to listen in another language and read translations fascinates me. Plus, you can pick up new words and it helps me with my listening in Japanese. ;p

._. And most subs are actually *gasp* translated properly. I've been poisoned by seeing several animes side-by-side with their TV Dub versions and their original subtitled versions and... I'm just happier with the subs. x.o;

*had more to add, but completely forgot it* @[email protected]

Castrainer June 9th, 2004 6:12 PM

I think thats an idiot question :P
Subbed all the way!

Seoul June 9th, 2004 6:20 PM

I dont have much experience in this, but i have overall found that the constant text that needs to be read keeps my eyes too occupied.. thus i cannot watch the animation etc, which is what i want to stare at.. not text necessarily. But japanese voices are funnuh. (:
I hear that 4Kids butchers.. but.. how exactly is it they do it? by cutting out much dialog, rearranging things, and cutting scenes that they dont feel are necessary/appropriate?.. [if they dont cut some scenes, atleast in pokemon, then some american company just bands the episode.. ><]

[Ok. I totally dont belong in this forum. ^__^]
*leaves as randomly as he entered*

Angel of Chaos June 10th, 2004 1:51 AM

Subs for me! ^_^
I just hate dubs...they take out the originality of it, in my opinion. O.o

Imakuni? June 10th, 2004 8:06 AM

english needs to stay in the american cartoons. not japanese ones or games.

Evil Togepi June 10th, 2004 12:30 PM

Well I can be half and half on it, I actually enjoy the dub of Pokémon I guess cos it's the dub I'm more used to although that wasn't the case with Yugioh once I started watching the raws of that I saw how evilly bad the dubbed version of that show is X_x; (*Although I still enjoy watching it cos I'm a fangirl of the Shadow Realm...best place ever XD*)

So I will choose subbed mostly due to the fact it's great to see an anime in tact with it's Original Japanese sound over it, the japanese actors are so much more better at doing emotion, when a character screams with emotinal pain....you really do feel like crying, plus as Lightning said you do start picking up on words and such while watching subs :)

digi-kun June 10th, 2004 1:08 PM

Oh GOD!!! How dare dubbers cut evrything out all the time!!! It just annoys me so >_<

John Denver June 11th, 2004 2:16 PM

are you guys CRAZY!?!

Dubbed all the way (unless of course, the voices are completely off, like a hulking brute being dubbed by the voice of a little girl)

If it's subbed, then you're always focusing on the words and not the action of the screen...shizzah mama!

BOO ya!

aaaaaa June 11th, 2004 2:48 PM

It depends.
I can tollerate the dubs for Tekkaman, and Mononoke Hime.
But thats about the extent of it all.
Subs > Dubs

fudge01 June 11th, 2004 4:29 PM

DUBS OWN they are the best 0_o more acturate than the subs i watch o_0 o lve the dub of pokemon yugioh and final fantasy unlimited i have never watched a dub where there voces are off

Jeremy June 11th, 2004 6:45 PM

Sub > Dub. It's a no-brainer. Sub is *place number higher then one here* times better then dub. :P

TechieT June 11th, 2004 7:34 PM

Subbed, just because I can do two things at once and it's really funny when someone can't read very fast.

aaaaaa June 11th, 2004 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fudge01
DUBS OWN they are the best 0_o more acturate than the subs i watch o_0 o lve the dub of pokemon yugioh and final fantasy unlimited i have never watched a dub where there voces are off

All I can say is..are you stupid?
Have you ever SEEN a subbed anime? Seems to me you haven't.
Compare Mononoke.
Ashi-taka, explaining his curse

Sub: "Even now, it rots my flesh, and burns at my soul."
Dub: "It's killing me, slowly, but surely"

Um..yeah, the dub does *great* justice

Cherrim June 12th, 2004 7:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota
If it's subbed, then you're always focusing on the words and not the action of the screen...shizzah mama!

Actually, the more subs you watch, the better you get at reading subtitles. You learn to read them extremely fast, then you still get the time to concentrate on everything else in the scene. ^_^;

TeamRocket June 12th, 2004 8:07 AM

Re:
 
Dubbed episodes are duds! Subtitles rock!

~Ozy~ June 13th, 2004 9:14 AM

Subs. They rock. A lot of anime clubs I've visted once watch dubs, and that's why I've never returned. Something about dubs just weirds me out a bit. Maybe there's some mischaracterazation in there, or something, but I never really liked them.

John Denver June 13th, 2004 10:53 AM

I'm sticking with Dubbed...As long as it's un-abridged and the voices are at least decent, then I'm happy...

C'mon, how can you complain with the EXCELLENT voice actors on Cowboy bebop or Trigun. I would love to see an Anime with a voice cast done by real good professionals. Like maybe John Goodman and the Big Black guy from the Green Mile...

of course...

~Ozy~ June 13th, 2004 2:38 PM

Yes, Trigun and Cowboy Bebop are good, and (fairly) well translated, but they're the exception that proves the rule. the vast majority of dubs are far from decent, let alone good. Look at what happened to Shaman King and Witch Hunter Robin, for example. I'm afraid of what might happen to One Piece, and eventually, Naruto. Dubs just don't do most things justice.

aaaaaa June 13th, 2004 5:26 PM

Dakota, have you looked at the cast for Princess Mononoke?

Billy Crudup
Claire Danes
Minnie Driver
Billy Bob Thornton
Gillian Anderson
John DeMita
Keith David
Jada Pinkett-Smith
etc.

And while it was tollerable for a dub, the sub was still far surperior.

fudge01 June 13th, 2004 5:27 PM

o_0 i don't think you can change his mind dubs are just better in my opinion

MidKnight June 13th, 2004 6:08 PM

dubbed, cause too lazy to read and hard to watch1 while reading something.... I did watch few subbed anime in my life.

falafel June 14th, 2004 6:37 AM

Definitely subbed. I've been too traumatized by English dubs and dubs in my native country where Inuyasha is called a monster, not a half-demon. Although I have a soft spot for the dubbed version of Akazukin Chacha that was released by Cartoon Network... but that was because I watched it when I was still young and unknowledgable about the world of subbed vs. dubbed.

Also, the dubbed version of Princess Mononoke is ok, but the subbed version is much, much better.

Jeikobu June 14th, 2004 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordkirby537
(EDIT: Why is H-E-L-L censored? Just curious.)

Yeah I thought that was dumb too, if people wanted to discuss h-ell it would be a problem.

Anyway, my opinion depends on the anime. I liked the dubs for Trigun and Ruroui Kenshin. Right now they are probably more enjoyable for me dubbed, since I can't speak Japanese yet. However I like to hear the Japanese version, how it should be, and I like to listen for words I know. As for Pokemon, fansubbed. You don't have to ask me twice. 4Kids is lousy. They did ok with the early parts of the first season I think, and I like the movies anyway, but otherwise I hate the way they do it. Especially now a days with AG, the voices are lousy, the music, etc. I could rant on and on about why the Japanese version is better.

jirachi_pt June 14th, 2004 6:40 PM

Definately subbed. Along with other reasons, the japanese voices just sound better. Like Shugo's in .hack.

oni flygon June 14th, 2004 7:06 PM

I like subtitles better. I think some dubs might make the anime lose their "edge" ... (LastExile for example ... and FMA... that...is Al's voice??!!!

nicolelh11 June 19th, 2004 3:42 PM

I like sub all the way. Dub is kind of all right if they have the right people to do it. But it kind of cool reading across the screen and they can't mess it up either. I getting use to sub anyway. plus I get here a new lanuage anyway.Since I lived in Japan for three years so you just begin to get use to it so my friend Marina says.

lil' jose June 19th, 2004 3:44 PM

I like subtitles because I like to read and listen at the same time.


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