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Ariel August 26th, 2007 1:26 PM

Legendary & Ubers List.
 
Do we have a definitive list of what Pokemon are Ubers and which ones are legendaries?

I would like to just catch up on which Pokemon come under which heading. It's been a bit of a while since I looked into this sorta thing.
Also, could we make a reference list/thread for this specific subject? To spare any future confusion, and for newer players to look to? (Sorry if this is in the wrong forum).

Bishopk August 26th, 2007 1:37 PM

Or or or, we could use Serebii.
Hope that helps.

Zungie August 26th, 2007 2:05 PM

What's the definition of an uber? 'Cause you can't just say it's Uber because it's strong can you?

Karsen August 26th, 2007 2:50 PM

You call it an uber if it base stats are above 600.

anemos August 26th, 2007 2:52 PM

well you could do that, (yay another L fan!) but there is a standard set by many of the battlers here. they think some are uber and some arent. if you want to make your own rules, avoid the evil serebi wifi chat and make a battle thread here.

Pkmn Trainer Alex August 26th, 2007 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karsen (Post 2813589)
You call it an uber if it base stats are above 600.

That's a rather loose reason, as Slaking is at 670 and isn't Uber. Not to mention Mew, Deoxys, and Darkrai are at 600, but are considered Uber, while Dragonite, Tyranitar, and several others are also at 600, but are Overused. It isn't just an issue of stats, but also abilities, movepools, and typing.

The combinations of such things in Ubers makes them too high above most other Pokémon, needing other Ubers to really go against them. And if such Ubers are allowed to be used in the first place, mostly anyone would use them, simply because that would be what works. So Ubers are set aside in their own tier, only there for when an Uber battle is agreed upon by both battlers.

Azonic August 26th, 2007 3:01 PM

Wobuffet, Mew, Jirachi, Manaphy, and Darkrai are uber. Slaking is not uber, the rest with base total over 600 are all uber.

rocklee666 August 27th, 2007 5:02 AM

okay, wobbofet is an uber? what the hell are you smoking right now? Wobbufet is no uber. They can be beaten easily. If you guys are worried about a wobbufet, then you must be pathetic. Explain the Big Bad Blue Blob. X/

sims796 August 27th, 2007 5:06 AM

Look at the rules in the Battle Stadium on this site.

rocklee666 August 27th, 2007 5:09 AM

alright. I'll go check it out. I've got to know the reason for this.

sims796 August 27th, 2007 5:14 AM

There is a list of ubers AND usable Legends. And a disscusion of why they are there.

Captain Fabio August 27th, 2007 5:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocklee666 (Post 2815726)
okay, wobbofet is an uber? what the hell are you smoking right now? Wobbufet is no uber. They can be beaten easily. If you guys are worried about a wobbufet, then you must be pathetic. Explain the Big Bad Blue Blob. X/

You have never faught a propper one. It can take donw atleast 2 of your pokemon. IT IS BANNED!

sims796 August 27th, 2007 5:26 AM

Simple. A proper Wobbofet is able to survive a hit, then take you out on the spot with a retalitory move. Wanna instead charge up with a stat up move? Nope. Encore. How about switching out? No, Shadow Tag. So either way, one of you is going down. And it ain't Wobbufet

Angelic Diablo August 27th, 2007 5:29 AM

Not to mention that if Wobbuffet is in a pickle, then Destiny Bond sure helps him out...

Captain Fabio August 27th, 2007 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2815758)
Simple. A proper Wobbofet is able to survive a hit, then take you out on the spot with a retalitory move. Wanna instead charge up with a stat up move? Nope. Encore. How about switching out? No, Shadow Tag. So either way, one of you is going down. And it ain't Wobbufet

Thank you!
That explains why it is stupid!

Jimmyray August 27th, 2007 5:30 AM

Best thing to do with a wobbuffet is psn/brn/slp it in my opinion

Captain Fabio August 27th, 2007 5:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2815771)
Best thing to do with a wobbuffet is psn/brn/slp it in my opinion

Get a mixed sweeper on it. If possible, keep the other person guessing. It is going to be a 50/50.

sims796 August 27th, 2007 5:32 AM

Safeguard can knock that off. Plus, he has the HP, I believe, to take those in stride.

Captain Fabio August 27th, 2007 5:35 AM

Its just broken. Lets face it. I think that guy should go up against a team of them! XD See if his opinion changes!

Zaikiro August 27th, 2007 5:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkmn Trainer Alex (Post 2813634)
That's a rather loose reason, as Slaking is at 670 and isn't Uber. Not to mention Mew, Deoxys, and Darkrai are at 600, but are considered Uber, while Dragonite, Tyranitar, and several others are also at 600, but are Overused. It isn't just an issue of stats, but also abilities, movepools, and typing.

The combinations of such things in Ubers makes them too high above most other Pokémon, needing other Ubers to really go against them. And if such Ubers are allowed to be used in the first place, mostly anyone would use them, simply because that would be what works. So Ubers are set aside in their own tier, only there for when an Uber battle is agreed upon by both battlers.

Well explained mate...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2813650)
Wobuffet, Mew, Jirachi, Manaphy, and Darkrai are uber. Slaking is not uber, the rest with base total over 600 are all uber.

Can you tell me how Jirachi is a uber? I disagree but I would like to hear your reason why.

rocklee666 August 27th, 2007 6:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garra_of_the_desert (Post 2815745)
You have never faught a propper one. It can take donw atleast 2 of your pokemon. IT IS BANNED!

Yes I have. I've beaten one at level 70(or above, but in the lower 70's). It was mine at first, but my cousin traded with me for a different poke in emerald.Then after we traded he demanded a battle. lets put it simply..get a luxray or pichu/pika/rai with charge and thunderfang/volt tackle/shock wave. Have the two battling pokes around the same level. Just use charge twice or 3 times while it uses counter(it should'nt use destiny bond) then use shockwave twice in a row. be sure to max out it's speed with stat boosters and have it hold a quick claw.

My cousin Mark, who is nearly unbeatable can kill those things like it was a level 2 pokemon. And no, he does not use hacked pokemon. He uses stat boosters, but who does'nt?.

Wobbufet= poser, especially the female bastard with the lipstick ><

Smarties-chan August 27th, 2007 7:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocklee666
what the hell are you smoking right now?

Rocklee, that part of your post was extremely disrespecting and I won't tolerate any more of that. This time I'll let you go without a warning, but if I see something like this again, I'll give you a warning.
Quote:

You call it an uber if it base stats are above 600.
Incorrect. Stats alone do not make a Pokémon Uber. What makes a Pokémon Uber is a combination of movepool, stats and in some cases its ability; stats are just one of the things that make a Pokémon Uber.
Quote:

Wobuffet, Mew, Jirachi, Manaphy, and Darkrai are uber. Slaking is not uber, the rest with base total over 600 are all uber.
Jirachi has never been an Uber. Although it has a great trait, its movepool is rather limited and a strong physical sweeper will just mash through its defenses.
Quote:

Yes I have. I've beaten one at level 70(or above, but in the lower 70's). It was mine at first, but my cousin traded with me for a different poke in emerald.Then after we traded he demanded a battle. lets put it simply..get a luxray or pichu/pika/rai with charge and thunderfang/volt tackle/shock wave. Have the two battling pokes around the same level. Just use charge twice or 3 times while it uses counter(it should'nt use destiny bond) then use shockwave twice in a row. be sure to max out it's speed with stat boosters and have it hold a quick claw.

My cousin Mark, who is nearly unbeatable can kill those things like it was a level 2 pokemon. And no, he does not use hacked pokemon. He uses stat boosters, but who does'nt?.

Wobbufet= poser, especially the female bastard with the lipstick ><
And why exactly wouldn't Wobbuffet be able to use Destiny Bond? -.- And the fact that you had a 1 vs 1 battle proves nothing. Wobbuffet needs to be used well and your cousin obviously can't use it. Let's not forget the fact that Speed is useless against Wobbuffet because it can only deal damage with low priority moves and its Speed sucks. Also, just using 10 Carbos on a Pokémon won't max out its Speed EVs, it'll only give it less than half of the EVs needed for maximum Speed.

Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about may I suggest you don't talk at all?

Zungie August 27th, 2007 12:15 PM

Thanks for that.
Conclusion: An uber is ANY pokémon with a base stat of 600 or above. Wobbuffet and Slaking ARE uber as there base stat is above or 600. Also, when you get pitched against an uber, be unpredictable and play on it's weakneses.

Close me please :)
Unless the thread starter has any objections..

sims796 August 27th, 2007 12:18 PM

That is a horrid conclusion. Did you read the thread at all? Read Smarties post. He explains it.

Persona August 27th, 2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zungie (Post 2816823)
Thanks for that.
Conclusion: An uber is ANY pokémon with a base stat of 600 or above. Wobbuffet and Slaking ARE uber as there base stat is above or 600. Also, when you get pitched against an uber, be unpredictable and play on it's weakneses.

As it has already been mentioned, Slaking isn't uber. Its ability leaves it vulnerable to powerful attacks such as Focus Punch, granting your opponent a free turn.


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