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KingOfClubs August 31st, 2007 5:44 PM

How does my team look?
 
Here's my team. And I don't want just new movesets, if I did, i would have asked you to make me a team. I want you to tell me pros and cons of my team. I know the natures aren't great, but I made sure they aren't detrimental to what it's doing. I also really don't get EVs so, I'm not even going to try and post their EV spreads (I'll read up on it...) Thank you!

Umbreon (SHINY TOO!!) @ Zoom Lens
Lonely
-Protect
-Payback
-Pursuit
-Confuse Ray
I don't even really need payback and protect. I mainly just confuse then pursuit when they are switching out. I've OHKO'd a gengar in this manner :P.

Mamswine @ Wide Lens
Hardy
-Stone Edge
-Ice Fang
-EQ
-Light Screen
Light screen is just a filler. EQ kills most, ice fang for flying types. Stone Edge for gyarados.

Rhyperior @ Wide Lens
Bashful
-EQ
-Megahorn
-Fire Fang
-Poison Jab
EQ for well, tons of stuff. Megahorn pwns psychic, I OHKO Latios and Latias. Fire Fang for grass types. Poison Jab...It's just there.

Sceptile @ Razor Claw (Love this one)
Adamant
-Dragon Claw
-Night Slash
-X-Scissor
-Leaf Blade
Physical attacker, fast, and covers tons of types.

Salamence @ Razor Claw
Docile
-Thunder Fang
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Fly
I just have fly so that I can get around, and I used aerial ace already... Draco Meteor STAB is... 210 damage. Thunder Fang for Ice/Water types and Gyarados. Fire Blast for steel, which my team hates.

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Bashful
-Will-Oh-Wisp
-Mean look
-Shadow Punch
-Ice Punch
Mean look then will-o-wisp. Switch in sceptile/mamoswine sweep. Repeat. Ice Punch and Shadow punch are just so i have some offense.

So what do you think? Please, be gentle :P.

~KingOfClubs

Shinji_ August 31st, 2007 5:47 PM

I don't think fly is a good choice for salamance becuase it gives your opponet a turn to boost stats if they want Theres alot more I could say but i'm too lazy to type and if you dont ev train and you want this team to participate in competitive not ev training is a definite con becuase others that did will rip you apart with there stat advantages.

sims796 August 31st, 2007 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinji_ (Post 2833749)
I don't think fly is a good choice for salamance becuase it gives your opponet a turn to boost stats if they want Theres alot more I could say but i'm too lazy to type and if you dont ev train and you want this team to participate in competitive not ev training is a definite con becuase others that did will rip you apart with there stat advantages.

I'll finish up. Sorry, but the movesets is the biggest promblem.

Iceman3k August 31st, 2007 5:54 PM

Movesets and EV assistance is the reason this part of the forum exists. Not to just post teams and expect positive feedback w/o anything being change.

And if you don't fix that Mamoswine RIGHT now, I will smite you. >:o
Oh, and by the way, Infernape ravages that team.

KingOfClubs August 31st, 2007 5:58 PM

positive feedback? Why would I post my team if I didn't want help with it????

sims796 August 31st, 2007 6:02 PM

Sorry king, Iceman is 100% correct. For instance, that is a stupid moveset on Umbreon. No offense, of course, but to be blunt, that is necessary. Ubreon defenses are so high, Protect is useless. His offenses are so low, Payback is useless. And I told you, Pursuit/Confuse Ray combo fails, especially on Umbreon. It's just too weak. Rather, this:

Umbreon
Toxic
Baton Pass
Mean Look
Wish

He has the defenses to trap a poisoned foe, then pass Wish & Mean Look.

Persona August 31st, 2007 7:11 PM

Tell me, what's the point of Zoom Lens on Umbreon? You have no moves with low accuracy, so it's really unnecessary. sims796 has given you the standard moveset that'll work fine, Yawn / Taunt could work over Toxic too. Also, Lonely nature isn't best for Umbreon, try Bold instead. Change Mamoswine's nature to Adamant. If you aren't contributing any speed EVs, Avalanche can work well, unless you care about Ice Fang's effect in freezing/flinching the opponent.

Iceman3k August 31st, 2007 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfClubs (Post 2833812)
positive feedback? Why would I post my team if I didn't want help with it????

Which kind of takes me to the following question: Why would you NOT want Moveset Advice if you posted your team in the first place?

KingOfClubs August 31st, 2007 7:21 PM

Um... I do... when did I say i didn't...

Portujesus August 31st, 2007 7:55 PM

Pros of your team:
Variety?

Cons:
No defense
Useless moves in most pokémons
You don't wanting to change it, at all.


On the Umbreon discussion: Emobreon is nice too. Fake tears in place of Toxic works wonders. And if you're cheap, Double Team also works.

Iceman3k August 31st, 2007 9:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfClubs (Post 2834203)
Um... I do... when did I say i didn't...

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfClubs
And I don't want new movesets, if I did, i would have asked you to make me a team.

DURHURHURHURDURHURHURHURHURRRR

Punishment August 31st, 2007 9:23 PM

Curse is a wonderful move on Umbreon. She can also pass it onto a bulky Pokemon too.

Pros:
: /

Cons:
Considering your comment that you kill [email protected] you must not play in the competitive OU battling arena. If Umbreon killed a Gengar then that Gengar wasnt properly trained. : /

This team would be crushed by a decent EV trained team. Sorry but that is the truth.

Shinji_ September 1st, 2007 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman3k (Post 2834624)
DURHURHURHURDURHURHURHURHURRRR

xD You owned him. You did say that so I dont know why you made this thread o_o;;

KingOfClubs September 1st, 2007 5:51 AM

I meant i don't JUST want new movesets. I want an explanation. See what I mean? I want the movesets, but something else to go with them.

This has been my most largely misunderstood moment...

sims796 September 1st, 2007 5:58 AM

Hey, lay off King. He explained what he wants, so lets just help. I did Umbreon already. Someone do the rest.

KingOfClubs September 1st, 2007 6:04 AM

Edit: I might change umbreon for Manectric. Moveset for him? (and I actually want one, to clear things up...)

Shinji_ September 1st, 2007 6:07 AM

Salamence @ Life Orb
Naughty Nature
48 HP / 120 Atk / 220 Spd / 120 SAtk
- Dragon claw
- Fire blast
-Earthquake or Stone edge
-Hydro pump or dragon pulse I recommend you breeding with a Gyrados so you can get Hydro pump
Mixed sweeper its also the current one I use and it's pretty good.

sims796 September 1st, 2007 6:10 AM

I think Samson gave you a VERY good Manectric moveset. Check on pg 2.

Dark Azelf September 1st, 2007 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfClubs (Post 2833735)
Here's my team. And I don't want just new movesets, if I did, i would have asked you to make me a team. I want you to tell me pros and cons of my team. I know the natures aren't great, but I made sure they aren't detrimental to what it's doing. I also really don't get EVs so, I'm not even going to try and post their EV spreads (I'll read up on it...) Thank you!



Mamswine @ Life Orb
Adamant
252 Hp 129 Att 129 Sp.Def
-Stone Edge
-Ice Shard
-EQ
-Curse


name: Defensive Tank
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Megahorn/Avalanche
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant/Impish
evs: 252HP/6ATK/252DEF

name: Offensive Tank
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stone Edge
move 3: Swords Dance
move 4: Substitute/Megahorn
item: Leftovers
ability: Solid Rock
nature: Adamant
evs: 252HP/252ATK/6DEF


Copy and Pasted the Rhyperior sets from Smogon for you.


[email protected] Leftovers/Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 Att 252 Speed 6 Hp
-Dragon Claw
-Night Slash
-X-Scissor
-Leaf Blade


Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest/ Timid
252 Sp.Att 252 Speed 6 Hp
-Fire Blast
-Draco Meteor
-Hydro Pump
-Dragon Pulse




Dusknoir @ Leftovers
252 Hp 252 Def or 252 Sp.Def 6 Att(depending on what wall you want it to be)
Relaxed/Impish/Sassy/Careful
-Will-O-Wisp
-Pain Split
-Shadow Punch/Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch



So what do you think? Please, be gentle :P.

~KingOfClubs

Changes are in RED

as the bold button doesnt work for some reason

KingOfClubs September 1st, 2007 6:56 AM

Finally something to build on :). Thanks dark_Azelf.

And I'll check page 2.

Dark Azelf September 1st, 2007 7:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfClubs (Post 2835986)
Finally something to build on :). Thanks dark_Azelf.

And I'll check page 2.


No probs, but the bold button didnt work so ive edited my previos post again for you .

KingOfClubs September 1st, 2007 7:14 AM

Lo the bold DID work when i saw it...

Dark Azelf September 1st, 2007 7:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfClubs (Post 2836074)
Lo the bold DID work when i saw it...

It bolded everything for some reason XD

Oh well at least i changed it eventually for you

EvanMiesterX September 1st, 2007 10:15 AM

Pretty good team! The only problem is your Rhyperior knows not a single rock or ground move?!

Moi. September 1st, 2007 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvanMiesterX (Post 2836888)
Pretty good team! The only problem is your Rhyperior knows not a single rock or ground move?!

erm EQ?
please pay attention XD

whats with fly on salamence? if you want to get around just take out a starley to fly then put it back in box? thats how i do it.
Go with sims' Umbreon it's much better than the confuse ray/pursuit combo.


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