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The Infinite Devil Machine September 2nd, 2007 10:30 AM

Good moveset for an Umbreon?
 
I'm looking for advise. Here are the current specs.

Shadow ball

Psychic

Secret Power

Bite

It's pretty raw, I'm aware of that. I'm going to replace Bite and Secret Power. Any suggestions?

NightonEX September 2nd, 2007 12:30 PM

Iron tail for one. I'm not at all a pro, I just think that Iron Tail is a good move. Also, try swift. Remember, I SUCK at this kinda stuff. So try that if you want. Swift you get from Emerald Tutor. (thankyou Serebii)

Inept Prodigy September 2nd, 2007 12:52 PM

I think Toxic and Moonlight are good moves, because it has high Special Defense, it'll make it harder to take it down.

ShadowTails September 2nd, 2007 1:49 PM

This is the set I've seen used the most
Toxic/Taunt
Wish/Moonlight/Substitute
Baton Pass
Mean Look

Toxic to do damage, since both of Umbreon's attack stats don't do it much good, mean look Pokemon and/or make a Substitute and Baton Pass to a Pokemon that can take care of the one you've trapped, and many don't like Toxic and Mean Look.

Alternatively you can pass a Wish, Taunt if you don't fear Umbreon being your last Pokemon, Dark Pulse can usually provide decent damage to most Psychic/Ghost Pokemon, but it all depends on what you fear, the only thing the Toxic set fears is Steel types(AFAIK).

Pico De Psyduck September 2nd, 2007 2:39 PM

the toxitrap umbreon works the best imo

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Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Calm [+SDEF,-ATK]
Evs: 252HP/252SDEF/6DEF
-Mean Look
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Toxic

Azonic September 2nd, 2007 2:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightonEX (Post 2842187)
Iron tail for one. I'm not at all a pro, I just think that Iron Tail is a good move. Also, try swift. Remember, I SUCK at this kinda stuff. So try that if you want. Swift you get from Emerald Tutor. (thankyou Serebii)

OMFG if you said Iron Tail and Swift I will eat my dog.

Iron Tail has 75% Accuracy for 100 power. That is not worth it.

Swift is plain weak. 60 Power isn't good

Go with Psyduck's moveset except Dark Pulse over Toxic. Toxi-stalling is a little too predictable on Umbreon.

darkphoenixdude September 2nd, 2007 3:10 PM

I think Toxic is a definite one and maybe dark pulse too. :D

The Infinite Devil Machine September 2nd, 2007 3:16 PM

Ugh. I can't believe that I posted this in the wrong section. Anyway, I've planned it like this.

Toxic

Mean look

Moonlight

Crunch

Well?

NightonEX September 2nd, 2007 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2842666)
OMFG if you said Iron Tail and Swift I will eat my dog.

Iron Tail has 75% Accuracy for 100 power. That is not worth it.

Swift is plain weak. 60 Power isn't good

Go with Psyduck's moveset except Dark Pulse over Toxic. Toxi-stalling is a little too predictable on Umbreon.

Are you a dumbass? Dark Pulse is a DP attack! Also, your a dumbass because I said I was a complete noob. Go to hell. Since I'm not in a terrible mood, and I'm pissed, and I have anger problems....I would beat the poo outta you, although I'm gunna call you a slutty whorefaced dumbass. You fail!

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkphoenixdude (Post 2842734)
I think Toxic is a definite one and maybe dark pulse too. :D

Dark pulse is DP. I like you better, so I'm not gunna swear at you.

Sammi September 2nd, 2007 4:26 PM

NightonEX -- Never EVER say anything like that again on PC. Since you're both flaming and swearing, consider this a warning.

sims796 September 2nd, 2007 4:40 PM

Hmm. Yeah. Regardless, I don't believe the thread maker said if this is first or third gen, so here's a common set:

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Nature:Bold
Toxic
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Wish

There's one more option, but I can't remember it.

His offensive stats are too low to attack properly, but Tanking & passing inflictions is his specialty.

peabobo's sexy legs September 2nd, 2007 4:41 PM

This is just not right

Umbreon
Curse
Toxic
Mean Look
Moonlight

(Dammit, just go with the standards)

sims796 September 2nd, 2007 4:43 PM

What the hell was wrong with my set? It's very popular, and he can pull off Wish/Toxic/Especially Mean Look passing quite effectivley. Of course, my Gyarados makes all Umbreon obsolete.

peabobo's sexy legs September 2nd, 2007 4:45 PM

Nothing was wrong with your set. -_-

sims796 September 2nd, 2007 4:47 PM

Hah. Nice one. Ya played it cool, and now I feel dumb.

Warheart September 2nd, 2007 4:59 PM

Um, I use my Umbreon as an aggrivater. anyways, incase you didn't know, it has a bold (preferred over most others =/) Nature, and it's moveset is;

Confuse ray
Moonlight
Darkpulse
Toxic

Yeah, Umbreon doesn't have terrible high attack stats, but at least with Dark Pulse yo get STAB from it. Um, with umbreons Massive defenses, it can almost always survive that first hit with enough HP to use Moonlight, and restore it to full. I don't really see the need for Baton Pass on umbreon =/

peabobo's sexy legs September 2nd, 2007 5:04 PM

Confuse Ray is retarded. Switching out gets rid of confusion. Dark Pulse SUCKS on Umbreon.

Yellow Magikoopa September 2nd, 2007 6:43 PM

Hmm, I'd suggest Bite be replaced with Dark Pulse, but that's not a move yet. Yeah, secret power is BAD. Get rid of it NAO, please. Good job teaching it Psychic, though.

peabobo's sexy legs September 2nd, 2007 6:45 PM

No. Bad job teeching it Psychic. Umbreon is a staller, not a sweeper.

sims796 September 2nd, 2007 8:28 PM

Why does everyone teach it Dark Pulse? To surprise your opponent with weak offenses?

Punishment September 2nd, 2007 8:35 PM

Sims do not mock thy Umbreon. :laugh:

Umbreon has very low offensive base stats.

Baton Pass is essential on an Umbreon if she is carrying Mean Look.

Why max out Special Defense? Umbreon's two weakness stem from Fighting and Bug which are usually both physical. So max out Defense.

An Umbreon with max HP and Defense takes a STAB Choice Band Close Combat and survives.

sims796 September 2nd, 2007 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 2843592)
No. Bad job teeching it Psychic. Umbreon is a staller, not a sweeper.

Ah, but this post got to me. Sweeper & Umbreon doesn't belong in the same sentence. Well said, Purfugly. He is in no way a sweeper. Take that, Punisher :P

Jamie006 September 10th, 2007 5:42 PM

I've personally used one with the following set:
Mean Look
Toxic
Confuse Ray
Moonlight

This set takes a while to bring stuff down, but it's pretty effective at doing so and it's difficult to stop, as your opponent will be confused and you'll have Moonlight. The biggest problems you'll face happen when you meet something that's immune to either Poison or Confusion, so pick your battles wisely.

Anti September 10th, 2007 5:49 PM

I honestly don't see why people keep using moonlight, when wish is much better IMO, and has more PP. Toxic trapping I'm not so crazy about, but w/e. It can BP subs and curse as well.

Azonic September 10th, 2007 5:49 PM

Wow, this one is new. UMBREON IS A BATON PASSAH

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Trait: Synchronize
Nature: Bold
Mean Look
Curse/Wish/Swagger
Baton Pass
Curse/Wish/Swagger

I think I just typed a complete sentence. I will start dancing.


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