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RMT competitive
http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/dp/icons/466.gif *Mixed Sweeper* Electivire @Life Orb Ability: Motor Drive Nature: Hasty Evs: 252Atk//176spd//80SAtk - Thunder Bolt - Ice Punch - Earthquake - Cross Chop http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/dp/icons/059.gif *Choice Bander* Arcanine @Choice Band Ability: Intimidate Nature: Jolly Evs: 252Atk//252spd//6HP - Flare Blitz - Extremespeed - Crunch - Thunder Fang http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/dp/icons/121.gif *Special Sweeper//Rapid Spinner* Starmie @Leftovers Ability: Natural Cure Nature: Modest Evs: 236SAtk//56HP//216Spd - Surf - Ice Beam - Thunder Bolt - Rapid Spin http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/dp/icons/468.gif *Special Sweeper//Special Sponge* Togekiss @ Ability: Serene Grace Nature: Calm//Timid Evs: 252SAtk//140HP//112SDef//6spd - Air Slash - Grass Knot - Thunder Wave - Roost http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/dp/icons/477.gif *Tank* Dusknoir @Leftovers Ability: Pressure Nature: Careful Evs: 252Hp//140SDef//112Atk//6Def - Ice Punch - Will-o-wisp - Pain Split - Shadow Sneak http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/dp/icons/149.gif *Physical Sweeper//DDancer* Dragonite @Leftovers Evs:252Atk//252spd//6Hp Ability: Inner Focus Nature: Adamant - Outrage - Earthquake - Thunder Punch - Dragon Dance I'm not sure for the Togekiss's evs, nature and moveset tho. I needed a special sponge and I am lacking of special sweeper so Togekiss was the perfect choice. Grass Knot is for my Swampert weakness, Air Slash 'cause it's STAB and will flinch the opponent's pokemon alot but for the two other moves, I'm not sure. I need help on that one. |
T-Wave will slow down opponent so good on togekiss, but the Roost is a big no no, I think Tri-Attack and the [email protected] Specs
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-Okay. so Thunder Wave is good.
-Since Togekiss is my only special sponge, I wanted him to last longer so that's why I putted Roost. -Tri-Attack would be good too since it get STAB. - Meh, I don't think that Togekiss is fast enough to sweep like any other Spec-ers and also, I don't want him to be an all-out special sweeper but a special sponge too. |
... I'm a little confused as to how it's a Special Sweeper when it has Physical EVs and knows Physical attacks.
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Air Slash and Grass Knot are Special and Togekiss has 252SAtk evs.
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Is there a reason why people use fancy text for the sake of annoyance?
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Togekiss can be good as a special sponge even if he is weak against Ice and electric, these are the only two ''common weakness'' he has. Gardevoir is a good option but the reason why I want Togekiss is because he can OHKO Foretress with Air Slash and Swampert with Energy Ball(I think) which are the weak spot of my team. @Penguinpal6 -Electivire: I need a SkarmBliss counter, that's why T-Bolt is here. -Starmie: Psychic has poor type coverage and I need a Rapid Spiner since 3 of my pokemons are weak against Stealth Rock -Togekiss: Aura Sphere for? -Dusknoir: I already have 4 electric moves (excluding T-Wave) in my team, I don't need another one on Dusknoir. Shadow Sneak helps me kill Zam. -Dragonite: Stone Edge could be a good option but why Ice Punch? |
No, Iceman is right. DDtar or any kind of Tyranitar can take this whole team out(well most of it)
And Tyranitar might have Speed passed. Icebeam and Icepunch is not supereffective on Tyranitar. Surf is your only hope Ttar can withstand EQ by a 2-3 HKO. You can't just have moves that counter your weaknesses, but pokemon types that can counter as well. |
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Cross Chop is very inaccurate and a good chunk of Tyranitars possess Earthquake on their move sets. And Earthquake + Tyranitar's Attack = KO'd Electivire.
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And I don't think that TTar will outspeed Vire. |
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What about Aura Sphere on my Togekiss for my Ttar weakness?
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yes, 120 is awesome but it won't ohko Ttar anyway. Ttar gets a 50% sp def boost for sandstream, and even Modest max sp attack Togekiss wouldn't OHKO Ttar (unless it has choice specs, of course). modest kiss would do like 80-95% damage to TTar. now imagine if TTar used Dragon Dance on the turn Togekiss comes in. OHKO town.
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If I put Choice Specs and let him have modest nature, it won't be a special sponge anymore but a special sweeper.
And how can Swampert resist a grass knot from a 120 base spacial attack pokemon? I want my Togekiss to sponge, sweep and negate any weaknesses. Is this possible? |
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also, swampert actually isn't THAT heavy. it's almost as heavy as Starmie... i was surprised to discover this when i did.
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It's still a 320 base power Grass Knot from a 120 special attack pokemon and a 480 base power Cross Chop on Tyranitar since its 4x weakness. Wouldn't that kill them?
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