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KingFlygon September 6th, 2007 5:23 PM

R-M-T. Here is my team.
 
I'm still missing one pokemon.


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Serene Grace
Quirkey
252 HP 252 Sp.attack
Seismic Toss
Softboil
Aromatherapy
Thunder Wave

Man these things are annoying! T-wave to screw pokemon, seismic toss to deliver damage, and softboil and aromatherapy to heal. Sp. Wall. Yes, it should have maxed out denfense with a good nature, but I kinda screwed up. IV's are great for HP and Sp. Defense.

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Sturdy
Impish
252 HP 252 defense
Explosion
Stealth Rock
Toxic Spikes
Gyro Ball

Ka-boom! Spikes activator. Follow up with SR/TS and then Boom! Covers some of Blisseys poor defense stats. Gyro Ball for damage if you need it, and to take SOME sweepers with high speed.

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Arena Trap
Adamant
252 attack 252 speed
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Sucker Punch
Aerial Ace

Kills unprepared Electric and Fire pokemon. OHKO's Magnezone and traps helpless pokemon. Sucker Punch is more taking out those weak pokemon before they can attack and it kills Alakazam. Aerial Ace for sure fire damage.

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Levitate
Modest
252 sp. attack 252 speed
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

Not so sure about this one. I need alot of help with this guy. Thunderbolt is for sweeper as is Shadow Ball and STAB. A retreat for no EQ damage as well as Explosion on Bliss. Some people say Focus Blast, I don't. Psychic is more effective. Somebody said once, that a few focus blasts could kill a Blissey, but I honestly think, who would keep a Blissey in while battling a Gengar.

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Motor Drive
Lonely
252 attack 252 speed
Thunderbolt
Ice punch
Cross Chop
Earthquake

Mix Sweeper. Covers a large varety of types especially Ground. Basic sweeper. Nothing else notable.


I need some help on my last pokemon. I was considering another physical sweeper and then something else... What do you think? Here are some posibilities:

Infernape, Breloom, Gallade, Magmortar, Togekiss, Magneton, Umbreon, Ninjask, Weavile, Mantine, Lapras, Tauntados, Jolteon...

Those are the ones that first came into my head, but I know there's more. Anyways, please help as much as you can. Thanks.

Samson September 6th, 2007 5:38 PM

get rid of spikes on forretress and replace it with protect or gyro ball.

you have one physical sweeper (dugtrio), and it can't take a hit and has a choice item. get rid of either zam or gar and replace it with a more diverse physical sweeper.

milotic evs + nature is bad. you're supposed to use it as a dual wall. it can't take out dragons if it isn't prepared to take hits. Bold nature, 224 HP/240 DEF/44 SP ATK. replace Dragon Pulse for Hypnosis or Mirror Coat.

Zaikiro September 6th, 2007 5:40 PM

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-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Energy Ball

There is no need for Dark Pulse and Shadow Ball to be in the same set. Dark Pulse effects normal types which is a good use but Shadow Ball is better on Gengar due to stab. A Scarf Sweeper set would be useful on Gengar or a diverse Life Orb set.


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Marvel Scale
Timid/Bold
EV: 252 HP/126 Sp Atk/126 Def
Ice Beam
Recover
Surf
Confuse Ray/Mirror Coat

There is no use at all to have Dragon Pulse in the same set with Ice Beam. Milotic has quite a limited moveset but Ice Beam is enough. Timid nature is decent, but it ins't required on a pokemon like Milotic. Though if you already trained it. It can work. =x You could surprise out speed a Salamence. Confuse Ray and Mirror Coat are two interesting attacks that can fit well on Milotic. Also, Toxic is good for consideration.

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Sturdy
Impish
EV: 252 HP/ 252 Defense
Explosion
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin/Earthquake
Gyro Ball

You gave it only one attack and you gave it full attack EV's. There's something wrong there. It just doesn't fit well. It just makes it a waste. Having at least two physical attacks aside from explosion would be helpful. It is better to give a pokemon like Fortress HP EV's instead of attack. It is meant to be a defensive pokemon.

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Sychronize
Timid
252 Sp.Attack/252 Speed
-Energy Ball
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Focus Blast

Alakazam and Gengar's set is almost too close. I know they are special sweepers and all but they could be diverse pokemon. With Focus Sash, a Calm Mind set helps with Alakazam being a lead pokemon.

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Azonic September 6th, 2007 5:45 PM

Ahh... the Gengar

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Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK /252 SPEED/4 HP
Hypnosis
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Shadowball

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Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SATK/ 252 SPEED/4 HP
HP Ice
Thunderbolt
Shadowball
Focus Blast

KingFlygon September 6th, 2007 5:52 PM

Alright. I'll get rid of alakazam and Milotic but for what... How about Ninjask and Infernape? That gives me 2 walls, 1 sp.attack sweeper, 2 attack sweepers, and a BPasser.

I've heard that Fortress is a pretty poor rapid spinner. I'd probably go with:
Gyro Ball
SR
TS
Explosion

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 12:05 PM

Sorry for double posting, but I need this up to the top.

What is the point of Focus Blast on Gengar? Psychic is much more effective. Anyways, I'll update the first post with edits.

Zaikiro September 9th, 2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingFlygon (Post 2868570)
Sorry for double posting, but I need this up to the top.

What is the point of Focus Blast on Gengar? Psychic is much more effective. Anyways, I'll update the first post with edits.

Focus Blast effects more types. Also Psychic is kinda useless without stab. D;

Anti September 9th, 2007 12:09 PM

Focus blast takes out these things called dark types...yeah. It pretty much hammers TTar...if you can get an attack off b4 getting OHKOed, a very big "if." still, focus blast is a must IMO. Also, you can always just make a new thread...I learned that the hard way.

EDIT: And psychic's type coverage really stinks...

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 12:32 PM

true... Ok, Focus Blast it is. Should Gengar have Hypnosis, or should I replace it for something?

Anti September 9th, 2007 12:33 PM

Gengar really should have hypnosis IMO. Keep it, and wide lens helps it and focus blast...

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 12:47 PM

Ok. There is one thing you must tell me: What the heck does IMO mean????

Azonic September 9th, 2007 12:50 PM

In My Opinion

Thats what it means. XDD

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 12:53 PM

Hehe. Yah, I knew that. *Not really* I was trying to figure it out, but I'm an idiot. So, an other advice?

Azonic September 9th, 2007 12:57 PM

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Trait: Marvel Scale
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/172 DEF/80 SDEF

Surf
Icebeam
Hypnosis
Recover

It can really absorb status well.

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 1:16 PM

Well, I decided to go against Milotic, but maybe.

Thanks for the help guys.

Edit: For my last two pokemon, I was thinking of Electivire. Maybe not Lapras, because I'm not totally sure what it is designed for and all, but maybe...

Anti September 9th, 2007 1:22 PM

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Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Attack, 6 HP
~DD
~Waterfall
~Return
~*physical attack*

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 1:28 PM

Return? Just wondering, but why? Shouldn't I max its HP too?

Anti September 9th, 2007 1:30 PM

Lapras...I'm no good at it. I don't know jack about its physical movepool, so I put return as a filler. It has only 60 base speed, but all that HP makes it a great physical tank. Somebody else can give you a much better set and EV spread. It can also boltbeam.

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 1:53 PM

Ok, forget Lapras. I don't even know why its BL. I can't find any good moveset. It doesn't have the right moves to be a wall.

Edit:
What is a good nature/EV's for Electivire? I was thinking a physical Sweeper Electivire, but maybe not.

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Adamant
252 attack 252 speed?
Cross Chop
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch

Anti September 9th, 2007 1:54 PM

But it gets heal bell in XD, can PHaze, maybe haze (not sure) and has good stats. That's why it's BL. Do you need a Vire set?

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 1:58 PM

look at my previous post. I editted it. Just EV's and Nature and item. Ok, so is lapras a good choice or a bad one?

Sora_8920 September 9th, 2007 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingFlygon (Post 2869135)
Ok, forget Lapras. I don't even know why its BL. I can't find any good moveset. It doesn't have the right moves to be a wall.

Lapras @:Leftovers
Trait: Water Asorb Really great if you predict a water move coming and switch to him, as he won't be your Leader or Starter in Dp Terms
Bold/Relaxed/Calm/Careful/Modest
Surf/Water fall (Waterfall in Diamond and Pearl, or dp).
Ice Beam/Ice Shard (In Dp again).
Thunderbolt
Curse/Substitute/Rest. A bit of advice, Don't switch into Starmie, Ever. With a Water Type.

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi Uchiha (Post 2869173)
A bit of advice, Don't switch into Starmie, Ever. With a Water Type.

Unless it is swampert...since most starmies don't use grass know, but T-bolt.

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 2:17 PM

When did I say I was switching into a starmie. I'm in D/P here. What's a nice Lapras move set for D/P?

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:27 PM

Lapras
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Thunderbolt
~filler

I won't even try the EVs...but modest nature. Boltbeamer. Maybe heal bell as the filler, or psychic.


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