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~Rene~ September 9th, 2007 12:43 AM

My Articuno moveset
 
Sorry, I have to make another thread again. Anyway, I have a Articuno in my team. Here is its moveset:
Articuno @ Nevermeltice
EVs: Not sure
Bold Nature
Fly
Mind Reader
Blizzard
Ice Beam
Is this moveset okay? Should I change Blizzard to Sheer Cold?

~Rene~ :t025:

Ársa September 9th, 2007 2:18 AM

Why would you have a bold nature if you aren't using any defensive moves? You would want a Modest one, and take out fly for something else...maybe roost, and Sheer Cold is banned from competitive play.

Don't use Blizzard. The PP is too low, as is the accuracy.

~M51

Portujesus September 9th, 2007 2:27 AM

Articuno @ Leftovers
Roost
Fly
Toxic
Protect

Works in theory.

Jimmyray September 9th, 2007 4:26 AM

Okay, Fly is a pathetic move, so I'll change this moveset for you.

OHKO's not used:

Ice Beam
Roost
Reflect
Agility

OHKO's used

Mind Reader
Sheer Cold
Ice Beam
Roost

~Rene~ September 9th, 2007 5:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mullac51 (Post 2866139)
Why would you have a bold nature if you aren't using any defensive moves? You would want a Modest one, and take out fly for something else...maybe roost, and Sheer Cold is banned from competitive play.

Don't use Blizzard. The PP is too low, as is the accuracy.


~M51

Thanks for telling me that, Mullac51. Why I can't use Blizzard? Is it not powerful?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Portujesus (Post 2866155)
Articuno @ Leftovers
Roost
Fly
Toxic
Protect

Works in theory.

Thanks for the moveset, Portujesus. It looks good. But I don't have Roost in my game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2866500)
Okay, Fly is a pathetic move, so I'll change this moveset for you.

OHKO's not used:

Ice Beam
Roost
Reflect
Agility

OHKO's used

Mind Reader
Sheer Cold
Ice Beam
Roost

Thanks for the movesets too, Jimmyray. Can you change Roost for any Flying attack? Because I am playing FireRed.

~Rene~ :t025:

Jimmyray September 9th, 2007 5:23 AM

Oh, in that case I'd suggest Subsitute or Aerial Ace.

~Rene~ September 9th, 2007 5:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2866747)
Oh, in that case I'd suggest Subsitute or Aerial Ace.

Okay and thanks for telling me that, Jimmyray. So what is a good moveset for Articuno if its nature is Bold?

~Rene~ :t025:

Sora_8920 September 9th, 2007 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Rene~ (Post 2866766)
Okay and thanks for telling me that, Jimmyray. So what is a good moveset for Articuno if its nature is Bold?

~Rene~ :t025:

Articuno @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Bold Nature (obviously)
Reflect
Ice Beam
Haze/Heal bell (Pokemon Xd)
Rest/Agility.

Jimmyray September 9th, 2007 5:43 AM

Yes. Send it out first, and use Agility. Then you can sweep everything with Ice beam. Reflect to weaken attacks such as Thunderbolt or Rock Blast. Although I do not suggest Haze or heal bell. Maybe use Aerial Ace or Rest insetad.

~Rene~ September 9th, 2007 6:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi Uchiha (Post 2866795)
Articuno @:Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Bold Nature (obviously)
Reflect
Ice Beam
Haze/Heal bell (Pokemon Xd)
Rest/Agility.

Thanks for this Articuno moveset, Itachi Uchiha. It looks good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2866833)
Yes. Send it out first, and use Agility. Then you can sweep everything with Ice beam. Reflect to weaken attacks such as Thunderbolt or Rock Blast. Although I do not suggest Haze or heal bell. Maybe use Aerial Ace or Rest insetad.

Yes, you are right. And thanks for the advice, Jimmyray.

~Rene~ :t025:

Sora_8920 September 9th, 2007 6:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Rene~ (Post 2866915)
Thanks for this Articuno moveset, Itachi Uchiha. It looks good.


Yes, you are right. And thanks for the advice, Jimmyray.
~Rene~ :t025:

Well you do not stats effects at all unless you Guts. In which, Articuno does not have. Therefore, Heal Bell, is the superior choice.

sims796 September 9th, 2007 7:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2866833)
Yes. Send it out first, and use Agility. Then you can sweep everything with Ice beam. Reflect to weaken attacks such as Thunderbolt or Rock Blast. Although I do not suggest Haze or heal bell. Maybe use Aerial Ace or Rest insetad.

Reflect only weakens physical moves, not Thunderbolt.

Anti September 9th, 2007 8:59 AM

Glad Itachi brought up heal bell. Really articuno is the entei of the legendary birds, but meh. I'm good at 3rd gen, so here's my fav Moveset:

[email protected]
Trait: Pressure
Bold Nature
EVs: 100 Defense, 100 Special Attack, 100 Special Defense, 210 HP
~Heal Bell/Substitute
~Haze/Roar
~Reflect
~Ice Beam

Haze and Heal bell are best, but seeing that you don't have XD, I guess use substitute, or maybe rest. Roar does haze's job, but haze is better IMO. Ice beam to inflict damage, reflect so you may actually survive some physical attacks.

NOTE: my EV spread...I forgot it. So, my new EV spread probably is no good, so I don't recommend using it tbh.

~Rene~ September 10th, 2007 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi Uchiha (Post 2867161)
Well you do not stats effects at all unless you Guts. In which, Articuno does not have. Therefore, Heal Bell, is the superior choice.

Thanks for telling me that, Itachi Uchiha. But how do I get Heal Bell?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2867388)
Reflect only weakens physical moves, not Thunderbolt.

Yes, you are right. Light Screen only weakens special attacks like Thunderbolt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2867761)
Glad Itachi brought up heal bell. Really articuno is the entei of the legendary birds, but meh. I'm good at 3rd gen, so here's my fav Moveset:

[email protected]
Trait: Pressure
Bold Nature
EVs: 100 Defense, 100 Special Attack, 100 Special Defense, 210 HP
~Heal Bell/Substitute
~Haze/Roar
~Reflect
~Ice Beam

Haze and Heal bell are best, but seeing that you don't have XD, I guess use substitute, or maybe rest. Roar does haze's job, but haze is better IMO. Ice beam to inflict damage, reflect so you may actually survive some physical attacks.

NOTE: my EV spread...I forgot it. So, my new EV spread probably is no good, so I don't recommend using it tbh.

Thanks for the new Articuno moveset, Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13. I have the TM 05 Roar. Does Articuno learn Roar in FireRed/LeafGreen? And I gave my Kangaskhan Substitute. Can you give other attacks besides Substitute?

~Rene~ :t025:

Anti September 10th, 2007 11:31 AM

Make sure you ignore my EV spread...anyways, HP electric could make it a boltbeamer. You could also use water pulse or HP water to beat the rock and fire types that devastate the icy bird. This is novelty for sure, but why not HP fighting for bliss? It would sure surprise that puffball, though I don't recommend that at all. If I didn't mention it b4, nevermeltice is made of fail...but yes, those are my suggestions, maybe HP electric is the best replacement...just don't use rock smash.

Sora_8920 September 10th, 2007 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Rene~ (Post 2870929)
Thanks for telling me that, Itachi Uchiha. But how do I get Heal Bell?
Yes, you are right. Light Screen only weakens special attacks like Thunderbolt.


Thanks for the new Articuno moveset, Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13. I have the TM 05 Roar. Does Articuno learn Roar in FireRed/LeafGreen? And I gave my Kangaskhan Substitute. Can you give other attacks besides Substitute?

~Rene~ :t025:

You get Heal bell, after Purufying it, in Pokemon Xd. It's easier, as you're not playing dp. Just trade it, over.

Anti September 10th, 2007 11:37 AM

Well, yes, but I don't think she has XD. But you're right, heal bell is the best option for articuno. Is it a decent boltbeamer? Never tryed it...

Sora_8920 September 10th, 2007 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2871870)
Well, yes, but I don't think she has XD. But you're right, heal bell is the best option for articuno. Is it a decent boltbeamer? Never tryed it...



Could be:

-Ice beam
-Hp Electric
-Agility
-Reflect/Tailwind/Roost/Protect/Ice Shard. (Yes I know, two ice moves, but it's an exception due to not being able to use mixed). If you're planning on using it mixed style. Use Relaxed nature. You want always with Articuno or any mixed pokemon who's best stats is defense, a defense increasing nature of course. Agility to increase the reduced speed. Took me a while, but did it. Hp water/grass could work as well, if you don't want it to be a boltbeamer, but rather counter it's weakenesses. If so, give it Focus Sash. Edit: Never mind, forgot it was Fr/Lg. Focus Band, then.

Anti September 10th, 2007 11:53 AM

Good idea with agility. You can always be cheap and use Mind reader+sheer cold, but it is better with my or Itachi's moveset, seeing that OHKO clause is almost always used.

Sora_8920 September 10th, 2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2871931)
Good idea with agility. You can always be cheap and use Mind reader+sheer cold, but it is better with my or Itachi's moveset, seeing that OHKO clause is almost always used.

We better post our strategy's, mine: seeing as how Focus Band, in Fr/Lg, is the only item that pokemon such as Articuno rely on. Put him as your lead, If they haven't already got their pokemon out, they will switch. Good, free Agilty has kicked in. Get Hp water on them, if it doesn't ohko them. pray that focus band kicks in, Use Hp water again. They should be ohko'ed.

Anti September 10th, 2007 12:26 PM

It can also take out common Mence leads with the correct EVs. That is very important, as MEnce is a common lead in 3rd gen.

Sora_8920 September 10th, 2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2871976)
It can also take out common Mence leads with the correct EVs. That is very important, as MEnce is a common lead in 3rd gen.

Ev's: (Redo). 240 sp.atk/116 hp,/152 def. Giving a total of 508 or you can switch sp.atk with def, and be a bit better.

Anti September 10th, 2007 12:34 PM

Now Mence is dead! Who said Articuno is useless? Actually, it isn't the cream of the crop...oh, sorry. If you ever gat a Wii or GC, do get pokemon XD, and your access to moves will skyrocket.

Portujesus September 10th, 2007 12:37 PM

I think Articuno gets Water Pulse, so HP [Water] isn't really needed.

Anti September 10th, 2007 12:38 PM

HP water is if you prefer extra power. I myself would use water pulse, but it depends on the tase of the user.


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