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rishi 20 September 9th, 2007 11:09 AM

Do you think cheating is a good way to get most fun out of the game?
 
what do u guys think of ceating

Ichida September 9th, 2007 11:16 AM

As long as the Pokemon I use remain legit, I don't mind minor ARing, such as getting items.

Radikaru September 9th, 2007 11:16 AM

I don't think it's a bad thing as long as they keep it in their own game and don't use cheats or hacks against other people, like in wifi battles.
If there are things that can be done in the game, and people want to do them, then I don't see the harm in it.

TheWishmkr September 9th, 2007 11:26 AM

I only would use a AR to get the events cause in my opinion i dont want to spend money to fly to japan just to get a Darkrai when i can sped 20£ here and keep getting the same one for free same with Arcues,Shaymin etc however it is stupid to cheat with things like

Complete pokedex
Infite Health
etc those are stupid but i use AR for fun like Walk threw walls! :D that code pwns

Persona September 9th, 2007 11:26 AM

The bottom line is the Pokémon games aren't supposed to be played this way, and it offers people an unfair advantage in online games against others who don't decide to pay $40 for either Game Shark or Action Replay devices. It not only spoils the fun, but it also hurts Nintendo, as cheating goes against their own marketing strategy. So no, I don't think it's 'write'. :x

dtex9002 September 9th, 2007 11:27 AM

Nothing really beats the satisfaction one gets from earning something. Cheating robs you of that feeling.

Though. personally, I'm fine with duping items (since many are only obtainable once) in Emerald and sometimes pokemon.

Ichida September 9th, 2007 11:43 AM

So, Shirosaki, you'd be willing to spend hundreds of dollars to fly to New York to attend an event full of immature children, all for a chance to obtain the event items? Can you honestly say you wouldn't rather AR the event? Both results are the same.

Bishopk September 9th, 2007 11:57 AM

Cheating threads are always interesting. The point is (Ichida) that everyone has an opinion, each as valid as the next. Trying to impress your opinion on someone else is fine, but in the end it's their choice. Maybe they would rather fly to New York to get something themselves, to be sure it's legit. As long as you aren't being mean about it, you can have your opinion.

Me? I prefer legit (Which is why I don't have 491-493).

Pkmn Trainer Alex September 9th, 2007 12:12 PM

I agree with there being nothing wrong with your own personal decision to cheat, as long as you keep tainted Pokémon away from other people.

I personally wouldn't cheat, as my ethics prevents me from such an act, and my resulting guilt would make me reset the game. XD And as far as events go, I don't really see it necessary to get such Pokémon. Aside from completing the Pokédex, they don't serve much of a purpose. And with Wi-Fi trading now possible, once the event actually happens, it wouldn't necessarily be impossible to get your hands on one (albeit any "legit" ones you happen to get may be cloned, but that's a different issue). And yea, I don't have Darkrai, Shaymin, or Arceus in my Pokédex either.

Persona September 9th, 2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2868492)
So, Shirosaki, you'd be willing to spend hundreds of dollars to fly to New York to attend an event full of immature children, all for a chance to obtain the event items? Can you honestly say you wouldn't rather AR the event? Both results are the same.

I could care less of events. So my response to you is, the situation would seem different in this case, however, I can understand if people are willing to hack events, as not everyone can fly to the moon and recieve them. Besides, the method in obtaining them legitimately does sound unfair. If people are to use AR in hacking events, the least they could do is not put them up for trade, because once that happens, then that's when people have a problem. Some people would rather think that whether you obtain something legitimately or not, it is still accepted in trades, others don't. As long as you keep hacked pokémon to yourself, then it's fine. So, dare I say it's the liars that are the real issue here?

Bishopk September 9th, 2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shirosaki (Post 2868610)
As long as you keep hacked pokémon to yourself, then it's fine.

This appears to be the general consensus, and I know Ichida has done this from the start.

(he needs a fan club)

nrox653 September 9th, 2007 12:19 PM

The only reason I cheat is when I get stuck on something. All I really do is activate the WTW code and legendary Pokemon code. Well... maybe some item duping codes too. After all, who wants to spend $600+ on an airline ticket just to spend 15 minutes getting a legendary event Pokemon?

Bathing Ape September 9th, 2007 12:19 PM

I think it's pretty unfair to describe people who use AR as "hackers"

It's a cheat cartridge and it's not illegal to purchase one

Hacking is normally associated with people illegally obtaining certain things. AR is not illegal

Do i agree with cheating? No, but sometimes it's not possible for people to complete these games fully without them

What if someone has the game and they don't own a version of Pokemon FireRed or Sapphire? Or are not on the Internet? How do they complete the game?

I think that needs to be taken into consideration....

Pkmn Trainer Alex September 9th, 2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bathing Ape (Post 2868629)
I think it's pretty unfair to describe people who use AR as "hackers"

It's a cheat cartridge and it's not illegal to purchase one

Hacking is normally associated with people illegally obtaining certain things. AR is not illegal

Do i agree with cheating? No, but sometimes it's not possible for people to complete these games fully without them

What if someone has the game and they don't own a version of Pokemon FireRed or Sapphire? Or are not on the Internet? How do they complete the game?

I think that needs to be taken into consideration....

That all seems like personal issues that deal with one's own game, and as long as you cheat to get benefits that don't affect others, it is generally acceptable. The problem is the children/n00bs who do such things and decide to trade with other people who don't know about how they cheated to get it. Once another person and his/her ethics gets involved, you have to respect them. Otherwise, get blacklisted like all the others.

Besides, I don't really see why completing the Pokédex is "completing the game fully". A game like this isn't meant to be completed fully. If anything, the game is beat once you beat the Pokémon League the first time. Anything you do afterwards is extra fun that is meant to extend the life of your playing experience indefinitely.

I wouldn't say you can ever complete the game fully unless you have become that "Pokémon Master" the anime keeps talking about. And since that not only involves collecting, but a long, extensive, successful history of battling, you'll still have to work to get to such a level. Isn't it great that Pokémon is so open-ended anyway?

TwilightBlade September 9th, 2007 12:52 PM

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I think it's pretty unfair to describe people who use AR as "hackers"
I agree with that. Dun be hatin and stereotypin. Watch out for scammers, not hackers people. There's a difference. Plenty of hackers help out to differ between legit and illegit pokemon by hacking into the games and reading the codes or just being a crazy traitor and sharing the secrets to help people know what to look for so they don't get scammed so easily aha hit me.

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I agree with there being nothing wrong with your own personal decision to cheat, as long as you keep tainted Pokémon away from other people.
Agree again. I despise it when someone passes off a hack as a legit and is thus scamming, which is like against the law and that's not cool, d00ds... If you're doing it for fun or whatever, good for ye. Keep them away from others and you'll live a day longer. ;3

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So, Shirosaki, you'd be willing to spend hundreds of dollars to fly to New York to attend an event full of immature children, all for a chance to obtain the event items? Can you honestly say you wouldn't rather AR the event? Both results are the same.
I'm willing to pay for plane tickets. :/ It gets me out of the house. Yush. And that's for the true pokemon fanatics eee.

Uhh it's not "right" but you should not have to put that much effort into a video game... And having fun is different for everyone. Some like hacking and some don't. Who cares? It's when a a hacked pokemon is traded for non hacked pokemon and that massively blows my fuses. AR is good for anything, hack that event or money or level 100 shiny Charizard. It's your game and your life. If you want to play with others, better refine yourself quickly and keep the child's play in your box and play with real pokemon. Otherwise, you're just a loser then. D:

So all in all, I don't care about cheating in pokemon. Just don't scam. Yayz. |D

Ichida September 9th, 2007 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 2868781)
I'm willing to pay for plane tickets. :/ It gets me out of the house. Yush. And that's for the true pokemon fanatics eee.

O_O; I truly, truly, truly pity you.

Drakorn September 9th, 2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rishi 20 (Post 2868377)
what do u guys think of cheating

I think Cheating spoils fun, you should always have fun in your life. Cheating just makes people think they can win everyone with their pokemon until someone spots them using hacked pokemon, and find theirselves as sore losers.

Malik September 9th, 2007 12:58 PM

I hate cheating. Mostly because it ruins the fun of PLAYING the game. the only reason chating would be "accepted" by me is if you have caught (or traded) and have all the pokemon in the game, and have your master pokemon. Then and ONLY then chating is accepted because it would/could add more game time.

I don't agree with hacking.:cross-eye

TwilightBlade September 9th, 2007 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2868796)
O_O; I truly, truly, truly pity you.

I dun need your pity. 8D

Hmm... Sit in a house all day IV breeding and EV training just so I can still get my rear kicked on wifi? Nah, hack some and do what I want to do with my favorites and do things my own way and hit every event I can and play with people who simply just love Pokemon for Pokemon? Yush that's my way of fun~ Maybe I enjoy being surrounded by a sea of children a decade younger than me? Dun wanna be near serious killjoys. D:

Ichida September 9th, 2007 1:02 PM

It's a PORTABLE system, you know. I did half my training while on the bus.

TwilightBlade September 9th, 2007 1:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ichida (Post 2868829)
It's a PORTABLE system, you know. I did half my training while on the bus.

Yeah, and that's how I got super poor vision from the small Gameboy color screen. Gotta go on Gamecube usually and breed in Emerald and still, I lose every now and then. While it was an improvement, it's impossible to be the strongest so I'm wasting my time trying. So outside or talk to a friend or homework time.

So what do I do on the bus? Sleep since I only get a few hours of rest or do homework. Poo on training. Education gets me farther than having 94 wins in a video game, no offense. I should not have posted at all in the first place since I've seen you in action. *flees*

Malik September 9th, 2007 1:22 PM

I agree with TwilightBlade the GBA Color was small, and so is the SP. The DS has two screens, which is good, but still quite small. I have to wear my glasses to play... and I look like a total nerd... (Cries) ;(

Ichida September 9th, 2007 1:24 PM

And thus, God created a wondrous thing. It was called the DSlite, with its four light settings and clearly-defined screen. And the gamers saw that it was good.

Bishopk September 9th, 2007 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Malik (Post 2868962)
I agree with TwilightBlade the GBA Color was small, and so is the SP. The DS has two screens, which is good, but still quite small. I have to wear my glasses to play... and I look like a total nerd... (Cries) ;(

Naw man, glasses are awesome. And nerds, we tight.
Ichida, Twilight, you're agreeing with each other. Stop arguing.

Malik September 9th, 2007 1:38 PM

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glasses are awesome. And nerds, we tight.
Yeah, thats what my friends say... but THEY are nerds TOO!!! but who cares. and yes i need to get a DS Lite, but i bought my DS too soon and i have the old version.. AND its the regular silver/grey color. but i don't mind it serves its purpose, and glasses arn't that bad.


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