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Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:07 PM

My Team Sucks
 
My team gets kill by just about anything..

The only Pokemon that last are Empoleon and Rapidash. The rest get slaughtered..

I didn't pay attention to EVs or natures and they're all level 70..

Empoleon
No Item
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Flash Cannon (useless imo)
Surf

Rapidash
No Item
Will-O-Wisp
Megahorn
Flamethrower
Return

Blissey
Shell Bell
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Calm Mind

Golem
Quick Claw
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Explosion

Staraptor
No Item
Close Combat
Brave Bird
Roost
U-Turn

Roserade (definately my worst)
Miracle Seed
Sunny Day
Solarbeam
Shadow Ball
Weather Ball

What should I change to make my team better? I don't care if you recommend a new team. This one is really bad though..

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:11 PM

For flash cannon, give empoleon agility, and EV train your pokemon for maximum results.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:13 PM

I don't see how agility could be useful. Say I use agility to make me faster than my opponent and then start attacking it makes no difference, because the turn used boosting speed may aswell have been used attacking.

If that made sense..

Eos Aduro September 9th, 2007 2:17 PM

Is this team for competitive? And Agility could give you the speed boost nessecary to get to your opponent before his second attack takes you down.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:21 PM

But either way in 2 turns i'll hit one attack so unless I OHKO them I will die..

And it's not for competative really. I play my friends sometimes..

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:26 PM

Empoleon can't OHKO many things. You say agility is wasting a turn when you could be attacking. No. Let's say a dragonite comes out. You use agility and it uses Dragon Dance. You then use ice beam to OHKO it. Now gengar comes out, armed with the dangerous thuserbolt and focus blast, both lethal to empoleon. But, you have speed now, and you attack first and take out gengar with surf, or do lots of damage. If you hadn't used agility, then you would've gotten sausaged, but no, you had the speed to take it out. No offese, but your team isn't very strategic. No true walls barring blissey.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:27 PM

And what if Dragonite uses thunderbolt??

And what Pokemon should I replace with what??

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:30 PM

Tough luck. No D-nite has it, but usually thunder instead. It may not OHKO you, or it may miss. It was just an example. My point is that attack moves are abused on this team. You have enough attackers, scrap CMblissey for:

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Trait: Natural Cure
Bold Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Special Defense
~Seismic Toss
~Aromatherapy
~Softboiled
~Thunder Wave

Now you have some form of defensive strategy...

Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:31 PM

I want that Blissey but I don't have FR or LG so I can't get seismic toss =\

KingFlygon September 9th, 2007 2:33 PM

Well, if it isn't competative, then it doesn't really matter, but if you want to kick your friends butts, then you should consider Ev training. No scratch that. EV training is a must in competative battling. Do your friends EV train? No of mine do, and I wipe the floor with them.

Get some nice items. Yours are pretty bad.

Blissey is useless unless you EV train it.

Lose Return on Rapidash for Poison Jab or even Facade.

Golem is nice for a Golem. It should have Leftovers or Life Orb.

Staraptor is fine. It should have something like Focus Sash.

Roserade should probably have Life Orb or Scope Lens or something.

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:34 PM

Then use ice beam. Simple. Seismic toss is better though...

Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:42 PM

I prefer having thunderbolt and ice beam than just one, because they cover almost all types.

And I think I need a whole new Roserade moveset, cuz I use sunny day and then I get hit with a fire, ice or flying attack.

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:45 PM

Sigh...Blissey isn't a boltbeamer...just use ice beam, it's the best option w/o SToss. Miracle seed...never again. Those kind of items suck.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 2:51 PM

I don't have any good items.. =\

And against fire, water or ice Blissey's got nothing

Anti September 9th, 2007 2:54 PM

You are missing the point. Blissey IS NOT AN ATTACKER. So what if it can't beat fire types. How many of those do we see? Ice? A few...and lots of waters...blissey is a wall, so that doesn't matter. If you are THAT concerned about inflicting damage, give the dang thing toxic...though that's a stupid idea. It's called a wall for a reason.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 3:03 PM

Oooh. Toxic? Sounds like a good idea to me ^^

Is there any way to get Aromatherapy without getting an egg? Cuz I don't feel like getting another Blissey to level 70 just for one move..

If not what other move could I use?

Anti September 9th, 2007 3:05 PM

Listen here. The blissey set I posted earlier is the ONLY set that would do anything for your team. Breed for aromatheray, IVs, bold nature and EV train. It's a MUST. Toxic is no good because the opponent sends out their heal beller to wipe out the status, therfore is rendered useless. You gotta trust me on this.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 3:07 PM

But my friends have ridiculous tactics.

Like Roar Of Time spam. >_>

Anti September 9th, 2007 3:09 PM

Then you embarass them even more. Blissey totally walls that, and can just use softboiled during the resting turn...but if they're so easy, why are you asking for help. Sounds like you'd blow right through them...

Phazon September 9th, 2007 3:10 PM

Because they're 20 levels higher than me and it's annoying when they say they're better. <_<

Anti September 9th, 2007 3:12 PM

Then just train to level 100 and you'll be fine. I'd be more than happy than to send you a PM your friends could see explaining why Roar of time is made of fail, why levels don't matter, etc. Besides, even uif you don't train and are 20 levels lower, beat them with those "weaker" pokemon and you will have supreme bragging rights.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 3:15 PM

I would, but it's boring. I still want a new Roserade moveset though. I kept losing to Fearows 15-18 levels lower than me.

Anti September 9th, 2007 3:17 PM

Meh. I suck with Roserade. I recommend getting rid of it. Vileplume is a cool UU pokemon.

Phazon September 9th, 2007 3:23 PM

What does UU mean?

Roserade died too easily, making it's special attack a waste, especially with a sunny day set.

Anti September 9th, 2007 3:24 PM

Underused, OU is overused. BL is borderline. Eggy is a durable sunnybeamer.


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