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[Dootakun] September 9th, 2007 11:15 PM

God this is getting annoying [Art Theft]
 
Link to member

Check his signature; he has one of my banners in there. He even created a thread with my sigs (and a bunch from other people, some of which I actually know), but that was closed.

Could someone edit his sig please? Not even wanting the credit, since he claims it's his salamence banner.

EDIT: link to my signature thread, in case you need proof

RYOUKI September 9th, 2007 11:17 PM

Well, nothing can stop art theft..
Maybe just put your name in all your Banners so that they can't steal it
but then, If you wann report it then just PM a Staff..
That's my Suggestion anyway

Signomi September 9th, 2007 11:18 PM

I've disabled his signature and took out the banner. Sorry to know one of your banners have been victim to more theft. :\ But like Ryouki said, we can't exactly stop it happening.

[Dootakun] September 9th, 2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Signomi (Post 2870662)
I've disabled his signature and took out the banner. Sorry to know one of your banners have been victim to more theft. :\ But like Ryouki said, we can't exactly stop it happening.

Yeah I know, thanks Signomi. ^_^
And that's a very good suggestion, Ryouki, I've seen many do that. Still, people cut out the part with the name xd or paste new text in front of it.

*sigh* Damn thieves.

RYOUKI September 9th, 2007 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Dootakun] (Post 2870672)
Yeah I know, thanks Signomi. ^_^
And that's a very good suggestion, Ryouki, I've seen many do that. Still, people cut out the part with the name xd or paste new text in front of it.

*sigh* Damn thieves.

Though even if TEHY Do that, Some of it won't really put in like they put there Name in front of lets say [Dootakun] they can't really cover the whole word with just the 'Name'
Maybe Um, try to put 2 names: One Visible and the second one Visible but not so much like camouflage xD

parallelzero September 10th, 2007 2:52 AM

Edited it again, because he put the banner back in. >>;

[Dootakun] September 10th, 2007 4:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archsage (Post 2870991)
Edited it again, because he put the banner back in. >>;

...You. Got. To. Be. Kidding.

God, how stupid can he be? <<;

I'm guessing a temp. ban wouldn't be possible? *hinthint*

Anyway, thanks Archsage ^_^

[Dootakun] September 10th, 2007 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 2871107)
Nah, in that case, we'd give him a warning for a third signature offence. And three warnings for whatever reason = temp ban. Too minor (though I understand, offensive) for a temporary ban.

So, he has two warnings, he needs a third eh? I'm gonna "let" him use one of my sigs, then say he stole it XD jk

Better keep this topic open, since he might do it again. And I'm actually hoping he does that xd Thanks.

[Dootakun] September 10th, 2007 5:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 2871175)
No, three signature offences generally = one warning. Anyway, if he does keep at it, then it's a warning for him. And if you catch him in the act, even moreso.

Oh, right, my mistake xd

I don't think he will be stupid enough to do it a third time; but the world can surprise us sometimes.

[Dootakun] September 11th, 2007 2:38 AM

Okay, he really got on my nerve now.

He insists on saying that they are his banners, that I'm lying. I'm gonna quote my PM and his answer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_zero
Quote:

Originally Posted by [Dootakun]
Mind telling why you stole my banners, along with others? From what I see, you're a member of PIF, since one of the banners you stole was only posted there.

Dont play dumb with me Dootakun!!!! first you ask me for a job then you take credit for it then you come to other forums telling other people tht those are your banners????? i thought we were friends man! i dont ever wanna speak to ya again dude!!! dont need to send PMs i wont read them ....

I want to see his face when I ask him if he has the .PSDs (Photoshop files where the banners are, if you don't know).

[Dootakun] September 11th, 2007 2:13 PM

Okay, I posted once, it didn't appear; I posted it again, the previous post appeared, I deleted the previous, but both got deleted oO So, I'm posting it a third time. Let's hope it sticks.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 2874365)
I'll waive the idea that you're double posting.

I assume you have the PSDs, then? If he uses the signature again, it's a juicy warning on his head. He can't prove it, and if he ignores the issue he's causing, then he can get into trouble as well.

Sorry about the double-posting, was too angry to think =/

Yeah, I have all my PSDs. And I never showed them to anyone, so he can't possibly have them.


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Yeah, had to delete the previous post so this wouldn't be double-posting.

Now, I bring more evidences that the guy is a complete moron, who can't lie. However, he said that he was fooled by someone, so I must play all the cards now.

I only found this rip thanks to TwilightBlade, who assisted me (thanks again) by showing the PMs he and she had been exchanging.

Here there are! Click the spoiler.

Spoiler:

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_zero
Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade
Quote:

Originally Posted by J_zero
Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade
Quote:

Originally Posted by J_zero
First of all Your friend at [forum removed 1] probably never told ya this but i made those for him and i helped with the salamance one , (style part) he asked me to do some banners and if he could take credit for them in exchange he gave me some rare pokemon ( i was a novice to Diamond and Pearl so i kinda needed pokemon ) since i had been also recognized in some forums for making good banners and he PMed me in [forum removed 1] to do the job and i accepted now one thing is this, but another thing is he coming to Pokecommunity.com and saying tht those are his banners??????????? i only agreed to him to keep credit for my banners IN [forum removed 1], he didnt have to bring it this far!!!! and why are u acusing me without a solid proof?? OH BTW tell Dootakun i never wanna talk to him again .........

He would have told me about you or else I would have banned him since I'm admin there.. :/ And what's your username there? I haven't seen you in my life. I don't care about help or whatnot, but you're only supposed to show off your own original art so you two settle this out. And yeah, he is here at PC and even SPPf and other forums and claimed those banners as his own... I know he isn't that kind of person and he wouldn't steal art. I have solid proof. I've known him for a while and he posted before you. But do you have solid proof? And you tell him that. I ain't no delivery girl. And btw, I think you're lying to me. My forum is [forum removed 2], not [forum removed 1]. Shows how good you're at lying. >.>

Just because i typed a word wrong means im lying??? haha good good you should run for human lie detector -.- but anyways back to your little friend, when we made tht deal he never told anyone tht he took credit for my work , i dont know about you but he didnt tell anyone , you might be his friend but you didnt know of our deal , and sometimes ppl might seem inocent but theyre not , anyways he broke our deal !!! hes probably going to tell you thte he doesent know anything about me ».« well il have my revenge soon , im not a hacker for nothing hehe...

The fact that you don't know how to spell the forum and that you didn't tell me what username you were under proves you wasn't really a member there. >.>

And by the bolded stuff and your logic, you just gave me the right to not trust you. You seem so innocent to me but I can't tell if you're lying. ;D

An honest person would not crave revenge either by hacking. >.>

Btw, if you truly made those banners, then make another one and show me that it's your skill. The other banners in that thread shared no similarity to the ones I picked out. I would assume your other banners would be equally good but they weren't. Dootakun's stood out a lot and if that is actually your work and not his, then prove it and make a new thread with new work.

Dude you cant see if ppl are lying just by looking at them , ok you can do tht but only with ppl tht u kno or are friends with ( personal friends ) tht you can see when theyre lying or not, now acusing me just because i "SEEM" to be lying ? :( ok fine il make a new thread and youl see tht i dint steal anythign :(



OMG HOW SILLY OF HIM XDDDD

Now, the IM log from MSN, some parts in portuguese, some in english. I'll translate the parts in portuguese [in bold], and if you think I'm lying, ask Wakachamo, he speaks portuguese.

João: the stealer
dsfsfsdf. : me, [Dootakun]

Spoiler:
dsfsfsdf. diz (21:41):
anyway;
pk ripaste banners? [why did you rip banners?]

João diz (21:41):
ripaste? rip?

João diz (21:41):
?????

João diz (21:41):
you mean stel?

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:41):
roubar, steal, rip [stealing, steal, rip]

João diz (21:41):
steal?

João diz (21:41):
oh

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:41):
és membro dos [forum removed 3]? [are you a member from (removed forum)?]

João diz (21:42):
i didnt steal them , a guy told me tht he was your buddy and he tld me tht you were lettting people take credit for your work , so dont play dumb with me hes your friend, and now because of you and your buddy the mods have acused me :@

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:43):
could you tell who's "my" buddy?

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:44):
since I never said, and I never will; for god's sake, who tells people they can take credit for something they do not own?

João diz (21:44):
his name is Gofre in pokecommunity.com , are you sure hes not your friend?

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:44):
ele contactou-te por PM? [did he contact you by PM?]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:44):
e n, n o conheço [and no, I don't know him]

João diz (21:47):
tás a dizer a verdade??? dont tell me tht guy fooled me!!!!!!!!! tht son of a ***** are you sure you dont know him? .... hes gona pay really bad he evn asked me for a rare pokemon in order to use your banner .................. well hehe im not a hacker for nothing, il let the MODS know about this . [are you telling the truth??? don't tell me...]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:48):
...desculpa, mas tenho mesmo de dizer "lol" [sorry, but I really need to say LOL]

João diz (21:48):
wht you dont believe i can hack?

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:48):
no, I meant lol to you being fooled xd

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:48):
link do thread onde isso aconteceu (se existir um)? [link to the thread where that happened (if there is one)?]

João diz (21:49):
he PMed me

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:49):
tens o PM? [do you have the PM?]

João diz (21:49):
yah

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:49):
forward it to me

João diz (21:50):
???????? forward?? you mean send it? How do i do tht? ( im not still familiarized with pokecommunity mechanics XD)

João diz (21:50):
bu i can copy and paste if ya want

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:50):
prefiro forward [I prefer forwarding]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:50):
vai ao PM [go to the PM]

João diz (21:50):
sim? [yes?]

João diz (21:50):
mais [more/go one/continue]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:51):
lá em baix ta a dizer "forward" e "reply" [don there it says "reply" and "forward"]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:51):
*baixo [*down]

João diz (21:51):
ah lol já vi e depois? [ah lol seen it, now what?]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:51):
depois, mete o meu username, [Dootakun] [afterwards, put my username]

João diz (21:51):
mesmo com os [ ]? [even with the brackets?]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:52):
sim [yes]

João diz (21:52):
ok hold on a sec

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:54):
...so?

João diz (21:54):
is it normal tht th

João diz (21:54):
é normal a fonte de alimentação tar a cheirar mal o.0??? [is it normal for the battery to smell bad?]

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:55):
show me the PM, then we talk

João diz (21:55):
ok

João diz (21:55):
sending it......

JOÃO GOES AWAY, PROBABLY ESCAPING FROM THE TRUTH AND FALSE PM

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:56):
...lol

dsfsfsdf. diz (21:56):
was expecting that


...Maybe he was telling the truth and that Gofre did fool him. But I don't know.

EDIT: he forwarded the PM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_zero
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goofre
Since he´s gonna make more banners the ones that at his old banner thread can now be used and you can take credit for them ;) its ok with him i talked to him, but of course he makes good banners, so il want a rare pokemon ;) you have any milotics ??



Faceless* September 11th, 2007 4:58 PM

It's funny on the coincidental side because I heard rumors he hacks and he doesn't like following the rules either :\

Maybe you should like put ©[Insert Name] on your banners, I see many banners having that around :)

[Dootakun] September 12th, 2007 12:47 AM

Really? =O

And thanks for the advice.

Short Range September 12th, 2007 1:12 AM

I smell a rat here. And no my house doesn't stink. How come he hasn't posted here. Also put your name on your sigs. XD

Volta. September 12th, 2007 5:01 PM

Wow, thats terrible desu~! =0

I can sympathize, it happened to me a while ago, but he removed it after one professionally written, grammatically correct e-mail (he disabled PMs ... go figure!)

So the solutions I can think of are putting your name on your sig, and/or putting a ©-by-yourself notice, and/or a watermark (o_0) with any of the above mentioned contents!

If he persists, then I think a temp-ban might be necessary because he's clearly disregarding the rules deliberately on multiple occasions

Wish September 12th, 2007 5:11 PM

That's Terrible >.< ~

I hope you somehow stop people from stealing your stuff. Maybe try Watermarking your banners. Your artwork is amazing and is deserved to be used by you and only you. I would hate people stealing my graphics without permission.

Myoko-chan September 12th, 2007 7:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2876031)
It's funny on the coincidental side because I heard rumors he hacks and he doesn't like following the rules either :\

Maybe you should like put ©[Insert Name] on your banners, I see many banners having that around :)


Not rumors. Facts.

http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=102843
http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=103000

Asking to change forum rules.
He wouldn't be asking for a arceus moveset if he doesnt have one.



Also, In this thread.
http://pkmncommunity.com/showthread.php?t=106712
He already received a warning, so you can expect something terrible to happen to him. >=)

Voltagenic September 12th, 2007 8:20 PM

Wow, this kid needs to be banned. I think you guys should just stop beating around the bush with these warnings, and bring the ban hammer down.

Anyway, when I was banned for "art theft" at another forum, at least I had legit reasons: I didn't know who made the stuff.


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