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MasterWGS September 11th, 2007 3:00 PM

My Blaziken
 
Okay, I've made up my mind, and I want a good physical-sweeping set for my Blaziken. Only thing is, I can't make up my mind on the moves. First I'll throw you what I've got so far, and what I'm thinking about it.

Blaziken
Adamant
252 - Attack
252 - Speed
6 - HP

Close Combat
Thunderpunch
Blaze Kick/Flare Blitz
Brave Bird/Shadow Claw/Stone Edge

It's the last two slots I'm really not sure about.

I know I want a fire type attack, so it's gonna either be Blaze Kick or Flare Blitz. The only thing is, I don't know if Blaziken's speed/defenses could support the recoil damage Flare Blitz would dish out, and I don't know if Blaze Kick would be tough enough.

The third slot I'm really wondering about. Brave Bird is a powerful move, but I really can't think of any type it'd give me a serious advantage over (other than other Blazikens and Infernapes, but Close Combat should be enough for them.), while Shadow Claw, though not very strong, would give me something to use on Psychic and Ghost types. Stone Edge would be tougher, and good on certain Flying or Fire combos that the rest of the moves couldn't handle.

Of course, none of these moves are totally set in stone, they can be swapped out if someone gives me some better ideas. I just wanna see what everyone else has to say. Also, if my EV spread doesn't seem sufficient, feel free to critique it as well. I haven't officially started training my Torchic yet.

Anti September 11th, 2007 3:05 PM

See, Blaziken isn't fast enough to take out ghosts unless you scarf it, so take out shadow claw...use flare blitz IMO, power=better on sweepers. I'd go stone edge honestly, beats those flying types. Scarfing it might not be a bad idea...good EVs BTW.

MasterWGS September 11th, 2007 3:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2875591)
I'd go stone edge honestly, beats those flying types.

Yeah, but he's already got Thunderpunch, which I figured would be sufficient for most flyers, since they're rarely packed with defense (unless they're Skarmory)...

Anti September 11th, 2007 3:08 PM

Oh, didn't see that. In that case, brave bird might be in your best interest...though if you scarf it, consider shadow claw for gengar like you said...

Shiraishi September 11th, 2007 3:11 PM

Blaziken is kind of useless without scarf. Close Combat spamming is fun XD

MasterWGS September 11th, 2007 3:32 PM

Would it be a bad idea to have both Brave Bird and Flare Blitz? Would that just bring in too much recoil damage?

Persona September 11th, 2007 3:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant (Post 2875711)
Would it be a bad idea to have both Brave Bird and Flare Blitz? Would that just bring in too much recoil damage?

Well, I don't think Brave Bird is really required, as it doesn't offer a lot of type coverage, even though it can deal damage to Infernape, Salamence, and Gyarados, but Stone Edge already takes care of the last two. Recoil damage is a big no for me, though it is your choice, but I'd rather just go with one move instead of both.

Azonic September 11th, 2007 4:38 PM

Blaziken can be a Baton Passer if u ppl haven't noticed 0.0 of course its too slow.

You have to Choice Scarf it really good.

You can give it Flamethrower, it covers some physical walls that can EQ it drop.

J Dog September 11th, 2007 7:40 PM

i throw mine in on walls like *insert wall here* and use agility while they switch *insert wall here* out.
it works everytime.
heres my set:

Blaziken @Life Orb
252 Speed/148 Sp Att/110 Att
Lonely Nature
-Flametrhower
-Sky Uppercut
-Thunderpunch/Rock Slide
-Agility

this is a mixed sweeper set, and its probably the best set for him.
flamethrower and sky uppercut for stab.
sky uppercut since he cant learn close combat.
flamethrower for skarmory and sky uppercut for blissey.
if you are scared of gyarados give him thunderpunch, if not, rock slide covers more.
and agility to make him pretty much equal to infernape.
infernape definately outclasses him, but blaziken looks so much cooler i think hes worth using.
:)
just kidding, if you get an agility in blaziken is probably better since he has better offenses.

if you really wanted a physical sweeper, use this:

Blaziken @Life Orb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
-Flare Blitz
-Sky Uppercut
-Stone Edge/Rock Slide
-Thunderpunch

stone edge if you want xtreme power, rock slide if you want more reliable power.
he can pull off the phys sweeper with his power but hes just so slow, he'll probably die fast trying to sweep...

MewthreeXL September 12th, 2007 5:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant (Post 2875711)
Would it be a bad idea to have both Brave Bird and Flare Blitz? Would that just bring in too much recoil damage?

Recoil damage is great for getting it's hp down to activate blaze.

MasterWGS September 12th, 2007 8:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Dog (Post 2876550)
Blaziken @Life Orb
252 Speed/148 Sp Att/110 Att
Lonely Nature
-Flametrhower
-Sky Uppercut
-Thunderpunch/Rock Slide
-Agility

Is a physical sweeper with this set (basically switch the EVs and put Flare Blitz in instead of Flamethrower, as well as change the nature to Jolly) just not enough to handle Skarmory? Even if I poured more power into his Attack, would it still not be enough to 1HKO a typical Skarmory?

luke September 12th, 2007 8:37 AM

I personally have never seen a Skarmory OHKO by a Physical Attack.

MasterWGS September 12th, 2007 8:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porygon-Z (Post 2877330)
I personally have never seen a Skarmory OHKO by a Physical Attack.

I did it once with a Swords Danced/Sporing/Focus Punching Breloom. Used SD three times before on other pokes as I FPed through their sleeping bodies, then I got to Skarmory, and repeated the process. One hit.

Lumine September 12th, 2007 8:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant (Post 2877337)
I did it once with a Swords Danced/Sporing/Focus Punching Breloom. Used SD three times before on other pokes as I FPed through their sleeping bodies, then I got to Skarmory, and repeated the process. One hit.

Lol SD 3 times kills anything

luke September 12th, 2007 9:05 AM

I guess that's technically a OHKO but with lots of support. I mean straight out attacking with no support. Nothing can penetrate those defenses.

MasterWGS September 12th, 2007 9:54 AM

Is it at all possible to get Thunderpunch on Blaziken in D/P, or am I gonna have to do all of this in Emerald, and then move it over to D/P?

Oh, and in case I haven't said it yet, thanks a lot for all of your input everybody. It's all really helpful!

sims796 September 12th, 2007 10:18 AM

Sorry, gotta go on Emerald. Muhahahahahaha!!!

MasterWGS September 12th, 2007 10:51 AM

Blast. That's what I was afraid of... I guess I can get him evolved, get him TP, then send him over... I have Pokerus on D/P, so it speeds up the EV process soooo much...

Anti September 12th, 2007 11:31 AM

Well, if you're worried about skarm, implement fire blast or flamethrower on it...and yes, Tpunch is only in emerald, but it is far worth it to hit water types.


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