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mikeallen123 September 13th, 2007 11:55 AM

salamence
 
whats the best moves, nature and eved stats for it as a power house
please help :)

Anti September 13th, 2007 12:02 PM

Moan...here are the 3 most commonly used Mence sets:

[email protected] Specs
Modest/Timid
252 Speed, 252 SpA, 6 HP
~draco meteor
~dragon pulse
~hydro pump
~flamethrower

Specsmence.

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Jolly/adamant
252 speed, 252 attack, 6 HP
~EQ
~Dragon Claw
~Stone Edge
~Crunch

CBmence. Aerial Ace is also an option.

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adamant/jolly
252 attack, 252 speed, 6 HP...don't know if this is the correct spread...
~DD
~EQ
~Stone edge
~Dragon Claw

Much like CBmence, only with DD and lefties. There is also mixedmane, I'll post him too:

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I fail at nature/EVs for mixedmence
~DD
~EQ
~Flamethrower
~attack move of your choice

Really tricks people.

mikeallen123 September 13th, 2007 12:16 PM

okay i like the second one how about a skarmorys moves
i have up to know drill peck, spikes and not sure about the others i want rest or recover and something else please help;)

Dark Azelf September 13th, 2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeallen123 (Post 2880230)
okay i like the second one how about a skarmorys moves
i have up to know drill peck, spikes and not sure about the others i want rest or recover and something else please help;)

[email protected] Shell/Leftovers
IMPISH NATURE
252 HP 252 DEF 6 ATT
- Drill Peck
- Whirlwind
- Spike/Stealth Rock
- Roost

mikeallen123 September 13th, 2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 2880239)
[email protected] Shell/Leftovers
IMPISH NATURE
252 HP 252 DEF 6 ATT
- Drill Peck
- Whirlwind
- Spike/Stealth Rock
- Roost

i really want to have rest or recover like marrilands skarmory(a strong wifi battler)

Sora_8920 September 13th, 2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeallen123 (Post 2880246)
i really want to have rest or recover like marrilands skarmory(a strong wifi battler)

The reason she/he is so strong, is because he/she hacks. Skarmory cannot learn Recover, whatsoever.

Faceless* September 13th, 2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2880199)
Moan...here are the 3 most commonly used Mence sets:

[email protected] Specs
Modest/Timid
252 Speed, 252 SpA, 6 HP
~draco meteor
~dragon pulse
~hydro pump
~flamethrower

Specsmence.

[email protected] Band
Jolly/adamant
252 speed, 252 attack, 6 HP
~EQ
~Dragon Claw
~Stone Edge
~Crunch

CBmence. Aerial Ace is also an option.

Hmm... Ok..

[email protected]/Shell Bell
adamant/jolly
252 attack, 252 speed, 6 HP...don't know if this is the correct spread...
~DD
~EQ
~Stone edge
~Dragon Claw

You have GOT to replace something with Fire Blast here, or Skarmory/Steelix will come out and mock you.

Much like CBmence, only with DD and lefties. There is also mixedmane, I'll post him too:

[email protected]
I fail at nature/EVs for mixedmence
~DD
~EQ
~Flamethrower = Fire Blast
~attack move of your choice

Really tricks people.

Mixed Mence is something that EVERYONE should be using, Specsmence yes, but Mix Mence is heavily recommended for walls that mock Salamence after 2 DD's. Flamethrow has more accuracy, but Fire Blast really needs to stay for 2KOing Steelix/Skarmory

mikeallen123 September 13th, 2007 12:25 PM

he actully has it with rest but i thought if it did learn recover it would be good
and hes nit a hack
if i have rest want item and other move should i have?

Persona September 13th, 2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeallen123 (Post 2880246)
i really want to have rest or recover like marrilands skarmory(a strong wifi battler)

Rest won't work with this moveset, unless you want it to be your sleep inducer, in this case, Sleep Talk is required. Really, Roost works better.

Anti September 13th, 2007 12:30 PM

You need a heal beller to make full use of rest on skarm...and I was in a hurry with those mence movesets...please listen to Name.

mikeallen123 September 13th, 2007 12:33 PM

okay now i need gallades best info please

Anti September 13th, 2007 12:36 PM

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Adamant/Jolly
252 speed, 252 attack, 6 HP
~Leaf Blade
~Close Combat
~Psycho Cut
~Night Slash

Choice Scarf Gallade...I think it can also use stone edge if you want that...

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Careful Nature
EVs: HP, Special Defense, Attack...not sure about exact numbers
~WoW
~Hypnosis/Thunder Wave
~Psycho Cut
~*attack move*

Yeah, I lvoe support/tank gallade. WoW helps defense a lot...hope that helped, kinda rushed but there ya go.

mikeallen123 September 13th, 2007 12:37 PM

[email protected]
Adamant/Jolly
252 speed, 252 attack, 6 HP
~Leaf Blade
~Close Combat
~Psycho Cut
~Night Slash
i like

Anti September 13th, 2007 12:38 PM

I was hoping you'd use the other one...oh well, Cscarf gallade is fine. Any other questions?

shedinjask September 13th, 2007 3:00 PM

Scarflade is completely outclassed by Medicham.

Gallade @ Leftovers
(some hp, som attk, some sdef, Adamant)
Hypnosis/TWave/WoW
Close Combat
Psycho Cut
Night Slash

Anti September 13th, 2007 3:08 PM

Wouldn't you think medicham needs some speed though? Its defenses aren't so great, even with EVs.

Faceless* September 13th, 2007 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2880856)
Wouldn't you think medicham needs some speed though? Its defenses aren't so great, even with EVs.

2 Words, Choice. Scarf. it can reach speeds up to 360 even with 480 attack and that is completely freaky. You have to lure it into using a Fighting move then send out a Ghost type which is incredibly annoying to do.

Anti September 13th, 2007 3:15 PM

I was thinking that, but the set shedinjask posted has lefties...but I thought you were supposed to run adamant/jolly w/ standard sweeper EVs on medicham, and scarf it...or is that just me?

shedinjask September 14th, 2007 1:41 PM

I posted Lefites for Gallade, not Medicham.

Medicham @ Choice Scarf
252 Attk/240 Spd/16 HP -- Adamant
HJK
Psycho Cut
TPunch
Ice Punch

Beats Weavile/Swellow/Darkrai. Jolly can reach well over 396, but then you lose the attacking power.


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