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Pokemon Chaining Questions
For those who use the Pokeradar, what is your biggest chain of Pokemon, and what Pokemon was it? Did you end up with a Shiny?
Have you ever seen or caught a shiny without using a pokeradar?? heres a video i found...it's really helped me with chaining....i suggest wathching it if you don't know how to chain.tell me if this video helped you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkeKPlBYYbs By the way, just post here anytime if you have a new high chain or the latest shinys you have caught:) Ha just post here whenever you want. |
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My biggest chain was 24 on a bidoof... lul. Nope, I didnt end up haveing a shiny. Shiny Chikorita...I kept reseting for it...lul. But if ur talking about wild...no, but it would be most unlikely with it's 0.00000000001% (1/8195) |
ha i cant get higher than 9......its a starly
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Highest Chain 113, Slakoth, 8 shinies.
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i doubt ill ever get that many chains.:(......its way too hard for me.
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i got 35 w/pinsir, broken by a flippin weepingbell!!:pirate:
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My highest is 6 Buizel's which I did twice
I only started yesterday, so no shinies for me... yet |
11 Chains of Electrike and 1 shiny >.<
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22 nosepasses (I curse all ponytas) I didn't end up with a shiny unfortunatley. and i hatched a shiny cleffa
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Chaining for Shinies Ps = 1/(200*(41-nc)) Ps: Probability of a shiny Pokémon nc: Current chain, capped at 40 Example: After chaining 40 shinies, the probability of getting a shiny is: 1/(200*(41-40)) = 1/200 = 0.5% |
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biggest chain was a 14 on staravia!
I WAS SO PROUD! |
Highest chain was 126 and got 7 shiny Ponyta... Saw 8 of them. >.>;
As for non chains, I soft reseted for two legends. I also found 2 random wild shiny pokemon within the same week. o.o I dun see how that's a one out of several billion chance. :U |
I Highly doubt you got 7 shiny ponytas in that chain. As I explained and gave an example of before, the best you can get the chances of a shiney down to is 1/200. That means you seeing 8 shiney ponytas would be next to impossible. 1/several billion. No way, no how.
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Mmm yeah, you did not just accuse me of lying. D:
Please tell me how the horsies got in my box then 'cause they are there and legit. If you'd like, I'll show you most of them in a wifi trade. I don't think my camera can do a clear picture of them. And for the record, I don't have an AR yet for the DS. So you tell me how I just owned a 1/several billion chance. I know a hunter who got 18 shinies in a chain of Togepi. And another hunter got 13 Lickitung, 12 Larvitar, and 10 Shinx to her name. It's not a load of bull; it's dedication, patience, and luck. That single chain took me 3 hours and I got them at: 43, 50, 65, 68, 73, 83 killed, 84, 98. The average is about 71, so maybe 40 isn't the best shiny rate. So maybe try experimenting and researching a whole lot more before you preach like I do. I take things too seriously desu. Dun push my little buttons and make me ooze out gravy ever again. :< |
Dude, reset the radar at any number and eventually you can get a Shiny, you will keep getting shinies so long as you keep reseting the radar and the chain doesn't break. I have 8 Shiny Slakoths, and it's not impossible to get 8 of the same shiny without cloning, none of mine have the same exact IVs and they're all different. I usually stop at 2, but sometimes I'll go higher.
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Highest chain is 45 with Banette and it prized me with two shinies
You just need to be patient First time i tried chaining i thought "this is rubbish, what's the point" But when i gave it another shot i understood it better and put more effort into it and i now have 12 shiny pokemon for my troubles, 3 of which have earned me a Birth Island Deoxys :D |
well i tried chaining for doduo and got up to 34...really proud:)....until a freaking bidoof broke it:(....
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I'm not accusing you of lying, i'm using facts. Those are the ACTUAL released calculations in chaining pokemon, and I've taken college courses on statistics. You can tell me I'm full of bull, but the numbers aren't going to lie. Its way too easy for people to make up information to make themselves look better. You can't prove yourself up against the math.
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Tell that to my 6 Shiny Starly's, my 8 Shiny Slakoths, and my other multiple shiny Pokemon and even just any of my Shiny Pokemon besides Spinda and Budew because those 2 were not caught on the Pokeradar.
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Between duplication and Action Replay, it wouldn't be hard at all for you to get that many shineys. my brother just messes around on the GTS and gets 2-3 shineys a day for junky pokemon. You just don't want to admit you've been caught out in a lie. I'm PROGRAMMING a pokemon game right now called pokemon twilight. I've been researching all the algorithims pokemon uses. I know what i'm talking about trust me.
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My 3 highest Chains:
29: Starly, No Shiny 28: Floatzel, No Shiny 20: Nidoran, Female, Shiny so, yeah, those are my biggest Chains |
Big freaking deal you have your stupid math, it's probability and random, you can't calculate exact randomness because if that were the case everyone would be getting shinies out the ying yang....
A friend of mine says "if it were possible to use game machanics to see every possible random outcome. then shinies would be easy to get" |
well what i think is that shadowtails isnt lying...he probably never gives up like most of us......he probably keeps on reseting the radar for ever until shinys pop out.
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pokeguide.filb.de/downloads/chain.pdf
Never gives up? What a martyr. Statistics are used to predict a lot more things than you realise. Statistics are everywhere, and they are used in almost everything. The fact of the matter is, he has a better chance of being struck by lightning 7 times than getting that good of a chain |
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pokeguide.filb.de/downloads/chain.pdf
Listen, he has a better chance of getting struck by lightning 7 times. |
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i took a class on statistics as well and i dont think that has anything to do with chaining, i just think its pure luck. like for me, i caught a shiny pichu in 8 chains and a shiny sneasel in 6 or 7, and that was right after i caught my pichu. so i think its just random or luck or whatever, and theres really no solid number (in my opinion).
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Oh no! Fighting!
Anyways. Highest Chains 81 Snubbull 68 Skitty 42 Snubbull Shinies x2 Snubbull on the 81 chain x1 Skitty on a really low chain(she was #9. It broke shortly after that) I believe it is possible to get MANY shinies, you just have to work at it and have patience. See, I don't have patience, I get bored of resetting or chaining so I go off to train or grow berries. One odd thing I learned is that the more you practice, the better you get at chaining!! I use to not be able to get above 15 and then 20 and now I can easily get to 30+ My eyes now know what to look for and what patches might end the chain. It used to take me as long at 2 hours to get above 30 but now I can get there in about 30 minutes. |
The most chains I got was 18 with Staravia. And yes I found a shiny without the pokeradar. (Shiny Skarmory
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Anyway Highest Chain is 23, I got it this morning :D I'm well chuffed, earned me a shiny snorunt XD As for shinies, I hatched 250 odd eevee eggs and got buger all And If we go by 1/200 Statistic, Then the numbers do Fkin lie you bloody idiot. Btw, Sorry For my launage And what not, it just people like him get on my nerves :| |
i tried chaining again but couldnt get higher than 23...starly...i can't get higher than that anymore...don't whats wrong.
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My highest is 65 Shynx, I got the shiny right on 40 without even resetting, but I didn't get any more after that...
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My first try I was messed up by my dog (distracted) and the second time, I got to about 3, then nowa days I go to about 10-17 and I mess up. However, 17 is my highest with Skitty. I mostly use the Swarming pokemon, is that a problem? I mean is it harder to chain with swarming pokemon?
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i think someone mentioned this before, but someone said that you can just keep resetting the radar until you get a shiny patch on any chain, as long as its a chain. so, if i have a chain of 3 eevees, can i just keep resetting until i get a shiny patch?
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My advice to all: Keep trying, if your chain breaks, try again. Keep trying till your chain works for you, all practice is good. I know it's frustrating, tedious, ect. But the hard work really pays off in the end. Buneary and Shinx I've had the most trouble with, no matter what my chain is at, no shinies have come up for me (I was reseting for like 2 hours for Buneary and nothing, I was at 40 and I was wondering... will it ever show up?) eh but that's stuff you can read on my posts in the Sinnoh journey journal thread. |
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Dude I'm not meaning to add to the flaming going on, but seriously, I'm sure that the college course on statistics didn't have a section on the randomness in a Pokemon game. Just because a statistic says something doesn't mean that there aren't other factors to take in hand. There are chances, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you will never encounter a shiny until X amount of battles has happened. The PokeRadar goes on its own randomness, obviously, as the higher your chain goes, the more frequent the shinies that you encounter. I've been watching these forums for some time now, and the two people you're trying to call liars seem extremely trustworthy to me. Maybe not to you. They aren't the only people who've gotten multiple shinies from chaining. You hear about it alot. Ok, and the original reason I came to this topic! I finally got a good chain going!! I caught a shiny Buizel in a 16 Pokemon chain! Pretty!! |
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The only shiny I've ever had on a full chain was Shinx at 40.
My other ones were Ralts at 18, Absol at like 10, and Lickitug at 4 but it wasn't even a shiny patch. I suck so much usually. |
ha me to.i still can't get a shiny but....i finnaly got up to 40!!!!!!!!:)....but i didnt find a shiny:(...oh well i kept trying and i got better.hopefully next time ill find a shiny.
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Anyways, my highest chain is 25 on a Bidoof, no shiny. Only shiny I've ever caught was on the 11th battle of a 12 Floayzel chain. |
hmmmm......no luck with me yet...damn come out shinys.
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*plays PokeFlute for ThaPlaya to wake up all the shiny Pokemon he's been missin out on*
That would be a strange coincidence if they just randomly started showin up on your game. |
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I listed in another topic which ones I had... Maybe that was at a different site...
Yep, at another site. A Digimon site at that, LOL!! <My first shiny NOT INCLUDING THE RED GYARADOS!! was a Butterfree from the National Park game in Silver, then about 2 weeks later I found a shiny Donphan in my Gold version. Crystal Version, I think I had a shiny pidgey, which made me mad at the time. Sapphire gave me a shiney Pelipper (ugh hate those things). Emerald actually gave me a Shiny Wailmer, I believe. in my Leaf Green I had ran into a shiny Magikarp (excitedly!) and evolved him, sent him to Pearl. In Pearl, I ran across a shiny Golbat, evolved her to Crobat, and now she's my flyer. Recently, i was messing around on Leaf Green for no reason and found a shiny Poliwag, which is now a shiny Poliwhirl waiting to be traded so that I can get a shiny Politoed (my favorite of all Pokemon, strangely lol). Just wish his belly wasn't pink.> There's my list of Shinies! EDIT :: Yeah that's like 2 weeks old lol |
wow......now you have luck...unlike me ill never have that kind of luck
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The longest chain I've had was 6 bidoofs and never seen a shiny. I'm so bad :(
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Argh yesterday I was sitting pretty on a chain of 40 Gastly and was just resetting the radar a bunch, when walking around for enough steps I didn't pay attention and ran into a patch! Stupid Staravia!
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Ok where does Gastly appear in grass?
And my highest chain was 19 Cubones but it got broke by a bloody Raltz lol |
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yeah i think so......thats what happend to me once when chaining....i acciedntaly ran into another patch i didnt want to go in:(
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How do you chain so good.
When I chained I didnt get that far I only got about 8 at the most and got no shinies. |
i cant chain that well.....just check out my video in the first page all the way on the top and it teaches you how...its very helpful
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Did you train or something because I suck.
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train for what??chaining????if you are talking about chaining...no i didnt train
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You know what I hate the most, is when you reset the radar and you think a shiny patch came up behind your character, but you're not sure, but you don't wanna step into it because you're afraid it isn't a shiny patch and it'll break your chain... I think it was but I don't wanna lose my chain... GOD I just wish someone would find the graphics in the rom and relase them so I could put Hikari/Dawn in front of them to see if it WAS a shiny patch =\... I'm not sure what to do and leaving my DS on draining battery isn't going to help.
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yup the character blocks the view completely.....and sometimes i see a patch shaking going up(the way that that one patch is blocked)and i take a step.......boom my chain is broken....it churns out that the patch shook and i couldnt see it that well.have had several chains get broken because of this.
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Here is what the odds really are: His Highest Chain: 113 Number of Shineys: 8 so the odds of getting a shiney after 40 chains are 1/200, He did 113 chains, the chances of getting a shiney before then are pretty minimal, but we'll assume he got one shiney in the first 40 ( which is generous ). So that leaves us with 73 chains to get the other 7 at the odds of 1/200. The probability of this happening, while being generous, is .000000036. Which by any statistical standards, is horrible. 1 in 27,777,777. ( 27 million, 777 thouand, 777 ) So yes, its possible I suppose. |
my highest was 40 with Meditie then i had to go bed for school :( so i left it on got up in the morning and forgot to repel :( oh i was pissed....
and there is NO math to shinies its random man, i was told to imagine a 8000 ( or whatever the shiny rate is) sided dice and pick one number that number is the shiny and to keep rolling it thats how i was taught lol |
I wonder, am I the only one that gets nervous as his chain gets higher out of fear of running into a bad patch?
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I don't think anyone has cracked the entire method of how the Pokeradar is programed, even if there is a 1/200 chance, that doesn't mean I got a Shiny within the reseting of the radar I have been reseting the radar over 100 times, and no shinies, and yesterday I chained Zangoose up to 40 and got NO shinies... so see not everyone gets a shiny on their chain, and not everyone believes in chances, because to be technical I've gotten 3 shinies on Pearl that weren't in shiny patches, so chances are just chances... not exact probability of something happening, if there is a red marble in a bag with 8 green marbles, there is still a chance that I'd pick a red marble each time, doesn't mean I will or wont pick it each time. Also according to my game, I haven't even encountered 8000 Pokemon yet... |
where does it say how many pokes you have encounterd???i saw it a while ago but i forgot.
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no the odds arnt 1/27 million......thats way too high...its like 1/200 the lowest you can go but i dont know which number chain that is....but 1/200...thats pretty good.
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i doubt that....for real i think your wrong about that.
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1.220703125% = 1.22%
that is the actual chance of getting a shiny without radar i got that percentage with science well actually its done like this 1 divide by 8192 multiply by 10000 since having 0.01220703125 by just multiplying is just silly |
Wow this is a really good video.
Thanks, I thought shinies were just luck and the pokeradar was just to save time from running around in the grass to battle wild pokemon. |
does it really matter that much? I mean, I have 8 Shiny Slakoths, 6 Shiny Starlys, 4 shiny Zigzagoons... 6 of my Slakoths are bad natured even with a Synchronize Pokemon in the front of my party, 2 were Adamant, rest were Neutral Natured...
I have also just had luck I guess, I mean look how many total shinies I have, and look how many times I've chained and got nothing, as I said I was working on that Slakoth chain and 2 hours later the first shiny patch came up. Chaining can be random, I've had pleanty of chains where I've gotten no shinies or they are hiding really well... I've had shinies that broke my chain... One time I was chaining Smeargle and I really wasn't trying to get a lot of shinies, I just kept going to good looking patches, advancing my chain, reseting when I felt the need to because of bad patches... I managed to catch 5 of those and one was Jolly luckily, I didn't have ANY synchronize Pokemon in my part... I don't think the set chances make it that unlikely to get a Shiny, even when I really wasn't trying to get more I got them. |
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always happy to help:) yup that video helped me alot aswell....and i mean a lot but i still have no luck wiht shinys....im better since now i get to over 30 chains faster....but alwasy get broken:( |
highest chain 10 zubats and i bet i wouldnt get any shinies if i didnt have the action replay code on
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For other tips, I suggest watching a few videos that people have done where they show you them chaining to 40 and reseting for the Shiny Patch, I know there is one for Ralts... I am just about as careful as he is while I chain, but yeah... I love getting a Shiny Pokemon because most of them just look awesome, but many look just fine in their normal form... I have to limit myself to the number of Shinies I EV train/Use on teams because n00bs will accuse me of hacking =\... I guess I could start posting my horrible quality videos of me catching the shinies on Youtube... eh...
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yeah...ppl would start accusing you of hacking:(..even though i know you dont:).
anyways ppl i still havnt had any luck catching a shiny:(.....but still trying:) |
Just a couple of questions to make this all clear.
Is the chance of getting a shiny patch higher the more you have on your chain? It seems to be becaus people are going up to 40 and then are resetting their radars all the time. I got up to 26 wit doduo! No shiny though.... stupid bidoof!! Aargh! Thanks!! :D |
I don't think the length of the chain matters, it's just all based on luck as far as I can tell.
This is probably been answered before, but can you use Repels and still use the Pokeradar? I hate getting my chains interruped. |
ive been having rotten luck as of late. ive tried chaining ghastly, eevee, ralts and even lickitung...nothing! hopefully, i'll get lucky later today, and im gonna try and chain ralts again
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why what did he do??????the pokemart guy
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ouch that would hurt.
So the higher the chain, the more chance of a shiny coz everyone starts reseting at 40. |
yup pretty much everyone does...and shadowtails that really sucks haha...ill would have send my charizard to burn him
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grrr i was trying to chain corsola but then all of a sudden the grass path turns quiet!!
Grr! I went up to 22, didn't beat the doduos though. And I tried to chain swinub but its impossible in that big blizzard!! |
Hmm... Route 217... isn't that the route with the Ice Rock and the route you evolve Eevee on?
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14 Ponyta's but no luck with shiny so far.
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Not Very Happy I Was Chaining Absol And What Appears A Bloody Shellos :||| I was doing well aswell I was on 21 :| Anyone got any tips For mE? |
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does anyone know why this happens
i was chaining a shinx and then like the pokeradar music just stopped and the regular music started playing again and like everything was back to normal....then my chain was ended:( do any of you people know what happend??its happend to me twice already and i get relly mad |
When I chain Absol I go to the bit that is up the rock wall. It is easier than at the bit with all the trees. Absol is hard to chain. I have never had over 30.
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so it happened to both of us.......can anyone answer our questions?
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Yes, that is when you walk out of range of the Pokeradar, I can't remember the exact step number it is, I think the limit is 6 steps away from at least 1 patch that shook on screen then it loses the chain, it's happened to me a lot, but the oddest thing was when I was chaining Shinx, got to 40 reset one time and "the patch fell silent" =\ just make sure you find somewhere safe to walk up and down without getting all of the patches that shook off screen.
By the way, if people still don't know I wrote up a guide and it got moved to the FAQ, which can answer some/most of these questions, I can't exactly edit my post unless I ask a Mod to which I'm going to probably need to rewrite the guide soon. |
yeah ive seen it and it was what got me started on looking for shinys:)
i thought that was the reason for why that happend..thanks:) |
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