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GameFortress September 15th, 2007 9:58 PM

pokeguide.filb.de/downloads/chain.pdf

Never gives up? What a martyr. Statistics are used to predict a lot more things than you realise. Statistics are everywhere, and they are used in almost everything. The fact of the matter is, he has a better chance of being struck by lightning 7 times than getting that good of a chain

ThePlaya September 15th, 2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GameFortress (Post 2890710)
pokeguide.filb.de/downloads/chain.pdf

Never gives up? What a martyr. Statistics are used to predict a lot more things than you realise. Statistics are everywhere, and they are used in almost everything. The fact of the matter is, he has a better chance of being struck by lightning 7 times than getting that good of a chain

no he dosnt.........hes probably just a good chainer.and dosnt give up

GameFortress September 15th, 2007 10:02 PM

pokeguide.filb.de/downloads/chain.pdf

Listen, he has a better chance of getting struck by lightning 7 times.

ShadowTails September 15th, 2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GameFortress (Post 2890710)
pokeguide.filb.de/downloads/chain.pdf

Never gives up? What a martyr. Statistics are used to predict a lot more things than you realise. Statistics are everywhere, and they are used in almost everything. The fact of the matter is, he has a better chance of being struck by lightning 7 times than getting that good of a chain

What part of RANDOM DO YOU NOT FREAKING UNDERSTAND?... God... people this day and time, if they can't do something someone else can do then they just go off and off about it until they prove their point when it doesn't make a bit of difference... I'm not the only person with a lot of Shiny Pokemon, there are many other people, this one dude who calls himself "Shiny Hunter" has over 100 shinies that he caught himself, he has the majority of his captures posted on youtube, he even did a video where he did the entire chain and caught his shiny... I don't care what math you throw into my face to try and prove something, nothing in math is ever exact when it comes to statistics and extrapolating data, even when you interpolate your methods wont be 100% exact... I know enough from math that everything I do will never be exact, that's why we have Decimals, I don't care what you keep dribbling about, if you don't think they exsist, fine go ahead, be ignorant like that... I happen to work really hard to get my Shiny Pokemon, I don't care if you accuse me of cheating, I think if I did have an Action replay, I would have all the Shinies I'm hunting for, and heck they'd all have perfect IV's, well they don't... my luckiest capture was a Growlithe with a 31 IV in attack, his other IVs aren't exactly perfect, so shut up...

zer0vrs September 15th, 2007 10:07 PM

i took a class on statistics as well and i dont think that has anything to do with chaining, i just think its pure luck. like for me, i caught a shiny pichu in 8 chains and a shiny sneasel in 6 or 7, and that was right after i caught my pichu. so i think its just random or luck or whatever, and theres really no solid number (in my opinion).

ThePlaya September 15th, 2007 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowTails (Post 2890736)
What part of RANDOM DO YOU NOT FREAKING UNDERSTAND?... God... people this day and time, if they can't do something someone else can do then they just go off and off about it until they prove their point when it doesn't make a bit of difference... I'm not the only person with a lot of Shiny Pokemon, there are many other people, this one dude who calls himself "Shiny Hunter" has over 100 shinies that he caught himself, he has the majority of his captures posted on youtube, he even did a video where he did the entire chain and caught his shiny... I don't care what math you throw into my face to try and prove something, nothing in math is ever exact when it comes to statistics and extrapolating data, even when you interpolate your methods wont be 100% exact... I know enough from math that everything I do will never be exact, that's why we have Decimals, I don't care what you keep dribbling about, if you don't think they exsist, fine go ahead, be ignorant like that... I happen to work really hard to get my Shiny Pokemon, I don't care if you accuse me of cheating, I think if I did have an Action replay, I would have all the Shinies I'm hunting for, and heck they'd all have perfect IV's, well they don't... my luckiest capture was a Growlithe with a 31 IV in attack, his other IVs aren't exactly perfect, so shut up...

dude he is so right...he would have all the shinys hes looking for if he used an AR.those calculations you threw arnt right....its all about luck and apperantly some people have more luck than others....you sometimes catch shinys in a chain..you sometimes dont.but its all luck basically.so your calculations arnt correct and arnt true.

PrinceSushi September 15th, 2007 11:43 PM

Oh no! Fighting!


Anyways.
Highest Chains
81 Snubbull
68 Skitty
42 Snubbull

Shinies
x2 Snubbull on the 81 chain
x1 Skitty on a really low chain(she was #9. It broke shortly after that)

I believe it is possible to get MANY shinies, you just have to work at it and have patience. See, I don't have patience, I get bored of resetting or chaining so I go off to train or grow berries.

One odd thing I learned is that the more you practice, the better you get at chaining!! I use to not be able to get above 15 and then 20 and now I can easily get to 30+ My eyes now know what to look for and what patches might end the chain. It used to take me as long at 2 hours to get above 30 but now I can get there in about 30 minutes.

Drakorn September 16th, 2007 2:54 AM

The most chains I got was 18 with Staravia. And yes I found a shiny without the pokeradar. (Shiny Skarmory

RAWR ^_^ September 16th, 2007 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GameFortress (Post 2890687)
I'm not accusing you of lying, i'm using facts. Those are the ACTUAL released calculations in chaining pokemon, and I've taken college courses on statistics. You can tell me I'm full of bull, but the numbers aren't going to lie. Its way too easy for people to make up information to make themselves look better. You can't prove yourself up against the math.

LOL Your so far up your own Flaming ar'se that your ego has had a massive explosion.

Anyway Highest Chain is 23, I got it this morning :D I'm well chuffed, earned me a shiny snorunt XD As for shinies, I hatched 250 odd eevee eggs and got buger all

And If we go by 1/200 Statistic, Then the numbers do Fkin lie you bloody idiot.

Btw, Sorry For my launage And what not, it just people like him get on my nerves :|

ThePlaya September 16th, 2007 2:41 PM

i tried chaining again but couldnt get higher than 23...starly...i can't get higher than that anymore...don't whats wrong.

Gibbo September 16th, 2007 3:03 PM

My highest is 65 Shynx, I got the shiny right on 40 without even resetting, but I didn't get any more after that...

Malik September 16th, 2007 3:11 PM

My first try I was messed up by my dog (distracted) and the second time, I got to about 3, then nowa days I go to about 10-17 and I mess up. However, 17 is my highest with Skitty. I mostly use the Swarming pokemon, is that a problem? I mean is it harder to chain with swarming pokemon?

ThePlaya September 16th, 2007 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Malik (Post 2894944)
My first try I was messed up by my dog (distracted) and the second time, I got to about 3, then nowa days I go to about 10-17 and I mess up. However, 17 is my highest with Skitty. I mostly use the Swarming pokemon, is that a problem? I mean is it harder to chain with swarming pokemon?

well i think its easier to chain swarming pokemons...but no one really knows if it is easier.ill post a video guide to chaining right now hold on.

zer0vrs September 16th, 2007 5:10 PM

i think someone mentioned this before, but someone said that you can just keep resetting the radar until you get a shiny patch on any chain, as long as its a chain. so, if i have a chain of 3 eevees, can i just keep resetting until i get a shiny patch?

ShadowTails September 16th, 2007 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by zer0vrs (Post 2895443)
i think someone mentioned this before, but someone said that you can just keep resetting the radar until you get a shiny patch on any chain, as long as its a chain. so, if i have a chain of 3 eevees, can i just keep resetting until i get a shiny patch?

Technically, you can get a Shiny at any time when using the Pokearadar, as I've said I started a chain with a Shiny Sentert, had no clue that was a Shiny Patch I walked into, I also had experience of walking in to a patch that shook just like a normal patch and I got a Shiny Chansey in it, I've gotten shinies at 2, 3, 10, 13, 33, ect. any number can bring up a Shiny patch, even at 0 like I've had happen. I guess it'd be fair to say the higher your chain the more likely the shiny patch will come up, but it's all just random numbers and stuff there is no guarantee...

My advice to all: Keep trying, if your chain breaks, try again. Keep trying till your chain works for you, all practice is good. I know it's frustrating, tedious, ect. But the hard work really pays off in the end. Buneary and Shinx I've had the most trouble with, no matter what my chain is at, no shinies have come up for me (I was reseting for like 2 hours for Buneary and nothing, I was at 40 and I was wondering... will it ever show up?) eh but that's stuff you can read on my posts in the Sinnoh journey journal thread.

Trainer Trance September 16th, 2007 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GameFortress (Post 2890687)
I'm not accusing you of lying, i'm using facts. Those are the ACTUAL released calculations in chaining pokemon, and I've taken college courses on statistics. You can tell me I'm full of bull, but the numbers aren't going to lie. Its way too easy for people to make up information to make themselves look better. You can't prove yourself up against the math.


Dude I'm not meaning to add to the flaming going on, but seriously, I'm sure that the college course on statistics didn't have a section on the randomness in a Pokemon game.

Just because a statistic says something doesn't mean that there aren't other factors to take in hand. There are chances, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you will never encounter a shiny until X amount of battles has happened.

The PokeRadar goes on its own randomness, obviously, as the higher your chain goes, the more frequent the shinies that you encounter. I've been watching these forums for some time now, and the two people you're trying to call liars seem extremely trustworthy to me. Maybe not to you.

They aren't the only people who've gotten multiple shinies from chaining. You hear about it alot.

Ok, and the original reason I came to this topic!

I finally got a good chain going!!

I caught a shiny Buizel in a 16 Pokemon chain! Pretty!!

ThePlaya September 16th, 2007 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oniko (Post 2896010)
Dude I'm not meaning to add to the flaming going on, but seriously, I'm sure that the college course on statistics didn't have a section on the randomness in a Pokemon game.

Just because a statistic says something doesn't mean that there aren't other factors to take in hand. There are chances, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you will never encounter a shiny until X amount of battles has happened.

The PokeRadar goes on its own randomness, obviously, as the higher your chain goes, the more frequent the shinies that you encounter. I've been watching these forums for some time now, and the two people you're trying to call liars seem extremely trustworthy to me. Maybe not to you.

They aren't the only people who've gotten multiple shinies from chaining. You hear about it alot.

Ok, and the original reason I came to this topic!

I finally got a good chain going!!

I caught a shiny Buizel in a 16 Pokemon chain! Pretty!!

HAHA thank you Oniko...thats exactly what we have been telling him...he dosn't understand

Trainer Trance September 16th, 2007 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 2896020)
HAHA thank you Oniko...thats exactly what we have been telling him...he dosn't understand

Well seriously though, think about it, if we went by his statistics, then nobody would trust anyone on this board because we'd all be hackers or cheaters.

ThePlaya September 16th, 2007 8:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oniko (Post 2896068)
Well seriously though, think about it, if we went by his statistics, then nobody would trust anyone on this board because we'd all be hackers or cheaters.

true,true...its basically all luck but the more you chain the more of a chance you'll have on getting a shiny(i think).

Trainer Trance September 16th, 2007 8:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 2896076)
true,true...its basically all luck but the more you chain the more of a chance you'll have on getting a shiny(i think).

That's how I've always thought of it, and that's how it's always been, if you ask me...

Gibbo September 17th, 2007 4:23 AM

The only shiny I've ever had on a full chain was Shinx at 40.
My other ones were Ralts at 18, Absol at like 10, and Lickitug at 4 but it wasn't even a shiny patch.
I suck so much usually.

ThePlaya September 17th, 2007 4:36 PM

ha me to.i still can't get a shiny but....i finnaly got up to 40!!!!!!!!:)....but i didnt find a shiny:(...oh well i kept trying and i got better.hopefully next time ill find a shiny.

Waffle-San September 17th, 2007 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GameFortress (Post 2889957)
I Highly doubt you got 7 shiny ponytas in that chain. As I explained and gave an example of before, the best you can get the chances of a shiney down to is 1/200. That means you seeing 8 shiney ponytas would be next to impossible. 1/several billion. No way, no how.

I don't see the logic in this. Once you get 1 shiny, the odds arn't reset there still at 1/200 or whatever your at, at this time. You have a 0.5%(when you get there) chance of getting a shiny everytime the grass rumbles. Now I know the chance of getting 8 isn't great but its still possible.


Anyways, my highest chain is 25 on a Bidoof, no shiny. Only shiny I've ever caught was on the 11th battle of a 12 Floayzel chain.

ThePlaya September 17th, 2007 8:45 PM

hmmmm......no luck with me yet...damn come out shinys.

Trainer Trance September 17th, 2007 8:47 PM

*plays PokeFlute for ThaPlaya to wake up all the shiny Pokemon he's been missin out on*

That would be a strange coincidence if they just randomly started showin up on your game.


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