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ThePlaya September 17th, 2007 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oniko (Post 2899463)
*plays PokeFlute for ThaPlaya to wake up all the shiny Pokemon he's been missin out on*

That would be a strange coincidence if they just randomly started showin up on your game.

lol...yup it would be a strange coencidence but it might happend.......nah......i have shinys that i got traded but i never caught one my self...i only have 3 or 4 i forgot.do you have any?

Trainer Trance September 17th, 2007 10:00 PM

I listed in another topic which ones I had... Maybe that was at a different site...


Yep, at another site. A Digimon site at that, LOL!!

<My first shiny NOT INCLUDING THE RED GYARADOS!! was a Butterfree from the National Park game in Silver, then about 2 weeks later I found a shiny Donphan in my Gold version. Crystal Version, I think I had a shiny pidgey, which made me mad at the time.

Sapphire gave me a shiney Pelipper (ugh hate those things). Emerald actually gave me a Shiny Wailmer, I believe. in my Leaf Green I had ran into a shiny Magikarp (excitedly!) and evolved him, sent him to Pearl.

In Pearl, I ran across a shiny Golbat, evolved her to Crobat, and now she's my flyer.

Recently, i was messing around on Leaf Green for no reason and found a shiny Poliwag, which is now a shiny Poliwhirl waiting to be traded so that I can get a shiny Politoed (my favorite of all Pokemon, strangely lol). Just wish his belly wasn't pink.>


There's my list of Shinies!


EDIT :: Yeah that's like 2 weeks old lol

ThePlaya September 17th, 2007 10:52 PM

wow......now you have luck...unlike me ill never have that kind of luck

Indian Barbie September 18th, 2007 6:11 AM

The longest chain I've had was 6 bidoofs and never seen a shiny. I'm so bad :(

Gibbo September 18th, 2007 6:43 AM

Argh yesterday I was sitting pretty on a chain of 40 Gastly and was just resetting the radar a bunch, when walking around for enough steps I didn't pay attention and ran into a patch! Stupid Staravia!

-Jirachi- September 18th, 2007 12:11 PM

Ok where does Gastly appear in grass?

And my highest chain was 19 Cubones but it got broke by a bloody Raltz lol

PrinceSushi September 18th, 2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -Jirachi- (Post 2900887)
Ok where does Gastly appear in grass?

And my highest chain was 19 Cubones but it got broke by a bloody Raltz lol

I believe Ghastly shows up at night on route 209.

ThePlaya September 18th, 2007 5:07 PM

yeah i think so......thats what happend to me once when chaining....i acciedntaly ran into another patch i didnt want to go in:(

Shadow Myuutsu September 18th, 2007 6:11 PM

How do you chain so good.

When I chained I didnt get that far I only got about 8 at the most and got no shinies.

ThePlaya September 18th, 2007 6:18 PM

i cant chain that well.....just check out my video in the first page all the way on the top and it teaches you how...its very helpful

Shadow Myuutsu September 18th, 2007 6:19 PM

Did you train or something because I suck.

ThePlaya September 18th, 2007 6:39 PM

train for what??chaining????if you are talking about chaining...no i didnt train

ShadowTails September 18th, 2007 6:45 PM

You know what I hate the most, is when you reset the radar and you think a shiny patch came up behind your character, but you're not sure, but you don't wanna step into it because you're afraid it isn't a shiny patch and it'll break your chain... I think it was but I don't wanna lose my chain... GOD I just wish someone would find the graphics in the rom and relase them so I could put Hikari/Dawn in front of them to see if it WAS a shiny patch =\... I'm not sure what to do and leaving my DS on draining battery isn't going to help.

ThePlaya September 18th, 2007 6:48 PM

yup the character blocks the view completely.....and sometimes i see a patch shaking going up(the way that that one patch is blocked)and i take a step.......boom my chain is broken....it churns out that the patch shook and i couldnt see it that well.have had several chains get broken because of this.

GameFortress September 18th, 2007 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.May16 (Post 2899188)
I don't see the logic in this. Once you get 1 shiny, the odds arn't reset there still at 1/200 or whatever your at, at this time. You have a 0.5%(when you get there) chance of getting a shiny everytime the grass rumbles. Now I know the chance of getting 8 isn't great but its still possible.


Anyways, my highest chain is 25 on a Bidoof, no shiny. Only shiny I've ever caught was on the 11th battle of a 12 Floayzel chain.

Never said it wasn't possible, just said its next to impossible. I'm making my own pokemon game, so those of you who are claiming I have no clue what goes into the programming of chaining are wrong. And no, they didn't teach me about pokemon games in AP statistics, but they did teach me how to calculate the probability of a statistical event, which can include catching a shiney pokemon. There is math behind pokemon games people, trust me. And listen, you don't all need to accuse me of flaming, or get mad at me for this and that. I'm just saying that it is VERY unlikely that it happened. I'm not saying its impossible to get shineys from chaining, i'm not saying its impossible to get more than 1 shiney from a chain, I just said its very unlikely to get 8 shineys in one chain. Don't blow it out of proportion here. Its not flaming, its just my opinion, which is based on facts.

Here is what the odds really are:

His Highest Chain: 113
Number of Shineys: 8

so the odds of getting a shiney after 40 chains are 1/200, He did 113 chains, the chances of getting a shiney before then are pretty minimal, but we'll assume he got one shiney in the first 40 ( which is generous ). So that leaves us with 73 chains to get the other 7 at the odds of 1/200. The probability of this happening, while being generous, is .000000036. Which by any statistical standards, is horrible. 1 in 27,777,777. ( 27 million, 777 thouand, 777 )

So yes, its possible I suppose.

TheWishmkr September 19th, 2007 4:48 AM

my highest was 40 with Meditie then i had to go bed for school :( so i left it on got up in the morning and forgot to repel :( oh i was pissed....

and there is NO math to shinies its random man, i was told to imagine a 8000 ( or whatever the shiny rate is) sided dice and pick one number that number is the shiny and to keep rolling it
thats how i was taught lol

Gibbo September 19th, 2007 7:35 AM

I wonder, am I the only one that gets nervous as his chain gets higher out of fear of running into a bad patch?

ShadowTails September 19th, 2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GameFortress (Post 2902664)
Never said it wasn't possible, just said its next to impossible. I'm making my own pokemon game, so those of you who are claiming I have no clue what goes into the programming of chaining are wrong. And no, they didn't teach me about pokemon games in AP statistics, but they did teach me how to calculate the probability of a statistical event, which can include catching a shiney pokemon. There is math behind pokemon games people, trust me. And listen, you don't all need to accuse me of flaming, or get mad at me for this and that. I'm just saying that it is VERY unlikely that it happened. I'm not saying its impossible to get shineys from chaining, i'm not saying its impossible to get more than 1 shiney from a chain, I just said its very unlikely to get 8 shineys in one chain. Don't blow it out of proportion here. Its not flaming, its just my opinion, which is based on facts.

Here is what the odds really are:

His Highest Chain: 113
Number of Shineys: 8

so the odds of getting a shiney after 40 chains are 1/200, He did 113 chains, the chances of getting a shiney before then are pretty minimal, but we'll assume he got one shiney in the first 40 ( which is generous ). So that leaves us with 73 chains to get the other 7 at the odds of 1/200. The probability of this happening, while being generous, is .000000036. Which by any statistical standards, is horrible. 1 in 27,777,777. ( 27 million, 777 thouand, 777 )

So yes, its possible I suppose.

I realize what you're trying to say, but you can never be exact, even if there is a chance of something happening doesn't mean it will, you said I had a better chance of being struck by lightening 7 times, I haven't even been struck once, chances doesn't equal what can actually happen... That's what a Chance is, it's not exact, and let me tell you... you can either be lucky with the Pokeradar, or unlucky... it just happens. I know some people who only had to reset their game a few times to get a Shiny starter, and even if you encounter 8000 something Pokemon you're not guaranteed to get a Shiny after you see the next one, you can go on and on without seeing one, it's just a chance nothing in a chance is ever exact.... I was reseting the radar for freaking ever, like 3 hours before the first shiny came up, and mind you that this chain was started august 27th and ended august 28th, since time doesn't effect the Pokeradar, none of them are exactly the same, I wouldn't see any point in cloning a Shiny Pokemon, I mean I'm not even trying to trade them for personal gain... It's just a chance is a chance, not exact.

I don't think anyone has cracked the entire method of how the Pokeradar is programed, even if there is a 1/200 chance, that doesn't mean I got a Shiny within the reseting of the radar I have been reseting the radar over 100 times, and no shinies, and yesterday I chained Zangoose up to 40 and got NO shinies... so see not everyone gets a shiny on their chain, and not everyone believes in chances, because to be technical I've gotten 3 shinies on Pearl that weren't in shiny patches, so chances are just chances... not exact probability of something happening, if there is a red marble in a bag with 8 green marbles, there is still a chance that I'd pick a red marble each time, doesn't mean I will or wont pick it each time.

Also according to my game, I haven't even encountered 8000 Pokemon yet...

ThePlaya September 19th, 2007 2:50 PM

where does it say how many pokes you have encounterd???i saw it a while ago but i forgot.

GameFortress September 19th, 2007 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowTails (Post 2903603)
I realize what you're trying to say, but you can never be exact, even if there is a chance of something happening doesn't mean it will, you said I had a better chance of being struck by lightening 7 times, I haven't even been struck once, chances doesn't equal what can actually happen... That's what a Chance is, it's not exact, and let me tell you... you can either be lucky with the Pokeradar, or unlucky... it just happens. I know some people who only had to reset their game a few times to get a Shiny starter, and even if you encounter 8000 something Pokemon you're not guaranteed to get a Shiny after you see the next one, you can go on and on without seeing one, it's just a chance nothing in a chance is ever exact.... I was reseting the radar for freaking ever, like 3 hours before the first shiny came up, and mind you that this chain was started august 27th and ended august 28th, since time doesn't effect the Pokeradar, none of them are exactly the same, I wouldn't see any point in cloning a Shiny Pokemon, I mean I'm not even trying to trade them for personal gain... It's just a chance is a chance, not exact.

I don't think anyone has cracked the entire method of how the Pokeradar is programed, even if there is a 1/200 chance, that doesn't mean I got a Shiny within the reseting of the radar I have been reseting the radar over 100 times, and no shinies, and yesterday I chained Zangoose up to 40 and got NO shinies... so see not everyone gets a shiny on their chain, and not everyone believes in chances, because to be technical I've gotten 3 shinies on Pearl that weren't in shiny patches, so chances are just chances... not exact probability of something happening, if there is a red marble in a bag with 8 green marbles, there is still a chance that I'd pick a red marble each time, doesn't mean I will or wont pick it each time.

Also according to my game, I haven't even encountered 8000 Pokemon yet...

Oh I know, i'm just saying the odds were 1/27 million. And thats the calculated number. Just like we know its 1/200 if you have a chain of 40+. Its a probability. And I'm not an idiot, I realise that it COULD possibly happen, I even admitted to it. I never said "you must get struck by lightning 7 times before its possible to get that chain" nor did I say "you only get a shiney pokemon in the wild after encountering 8000 or more pokemon" I just said that looking at the probabilities, you're more likely to get struck by lightning than get that chain. Although that was an exaggeration obviously.

ThePlaya September 19th, 2007 3:36 PM

no the odds arnt 1/27 million......thats way too high...its like 1/200 the lowest you can go but i dont know which number chain that is....but 1/200...thats pretty good.

GameFortress September 19th, 2007 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 2904374)
no the odds arnt 1/27 million......thats way too high...its like 1/200 the lowest you can go but i dont know which number chain that is....but 1/200...thats pretty good.

No, 1/27million is the calculated probability of getting 8 shineys in a chain of 113.

ThePlaya September 19th, 2007 3:44 PM

i doubt that....for real i think your wrong about that.

Zet September 19th, 2007 11:55 PM

1.220703125% = 1.22%
that is the actual chance of getting a shiny without radar i got that percentage with science well actually its done like this 1 divide by 8192 multiply by 10000 since having 0.01220703125 by just multiplying is just silly

pokemon_mistress September 20th, 2007 12:00 AM

Wow this is a really good video.

Thanks, I thought shinies were just luck and the pokeradar was just to save time from running around in the grass to battle wild pokemon.


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