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Phazon September 15th, 2007 12:05 PM

Groudon
 
I can't find a moveset for Groudon.

I'm really stuck on this one =\

Sora_8920 September 15th, 2007 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phazon (Post 2888765)
I can't find a moveset for Groudon.

I'm really stuck on this one =\

Groudon @:Leftovers
Trait: Drought
Adamant Nature
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Substitute (Have max 404 hp with this one). You better hope that this isn't for competitive.

Phazon September 15th, 2007 12:12 PM

What's so good about substitute?

I thought a sub has the same amount of hp you gave up..

Sora_8920 September 15th, 2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phazon (Post 2888799)
What's so good about substitute?

I thought a sub has the same amount of hp you gave up..



Um. A 101 hp sub isn't great? Trust me, Aerial Ace/Rest is another option.

Persona September 15th, 2007 12:14 PM

Groudon @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Swords Dance
- Overheat / Stone Edge

Simple Swords Dancing Groudon. You could try Choice Band as an item too, only difference is you get rid of Swords Dance, and add both Overheat and Stone Edge.

Phazon September 15th, 2007 12:15 PM

I'm saying that giving up 101 to gain 101 seems pointless =\

Shiraishi September 15th, 2007 12:16 PM

Not when a Kyogre switches into you.

Sora_8920 September 15th, 2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phazon (Post 2888809)
I'm saying that giving up 101 to gain 101 seems pointless =\



Trust me for god's sake. Sub is a must on it. Otherwise, go Aerial Ace/Rest. But seriously, sub is the best option for it.

Anti September 15th, 2007 12:16 PM

It is for seismic toss blissey I think. There are two groudon sets:

Novelty set:

[email protected]
Modest
252 special attack, 252 speed?
~solarbeam
~eruption
~dragon pulse
~Special attack here...

Or the good groudon movest:

[email protected]
adamant
EVs: 252 attack, don't remember the rest...haven't used groudon in years
~Swords Dance
~EQ
~Stone Edge
~*physical attack*

My memory with groudon in both 3rd and 4th gen is poor, sorry I can't help much.

Shiraishi September 15th, 2007 12:20 PM

Ice beam is one of the most common moves in ubers :/ Maybe..max out sp def..?*shot*

Shiraishi September 15th, 2007 12:21 PM

Ice beam is one of the most common moves in ubers :/ Maybe..max out sp def..?*shot*

Sora_8920 September 15th, 2007 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2888815)
It is for seismic toss blissey I think. There are two groudon sets:

Novelty set:

[email protected]
Modest
252 special attack, 252 speed?
~solarbeam
~eruption
~dragon pulse
~Special attack here...

Or the good groudon movest:

[email protected]
adamant
EVs: 252 attack, don't remember the rest...haven't used groudon in years
~Swords Dance
~EQ
~Stone Edge
~*physical attack*

My memory with groudon in both 3rd and 4th gen is poor, sorry I can't help much.

**Mixedon @:Leftovers
Trait: Drought
Lonely Nature
Substitute
Earth Power/Earthquake/Thunder
Fire Blast/Flamethrower/
Return/Stealth Rock/Thunder Wave/Stone Edge.

Phazon September 15th, 2007 12:44 PM

Groudon @ Focus Lens
Drought
Brave Nature
252 Atk 128 Def 128 Hp
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Focus Blast

I was thinking that this could work..

Espy Psyche September 15th, 2007 12:54 PM

I think Groudon can get Fire Punch, that's another option because it gets p-STAB from Drought.

101 subs are for S-Toss/Night Shade. Here's the scenario.

Groudon used Substitute!
It created a substitute!
Blissey used Seismic Toss!
The substitute took damage for Groudon!
Groudon used Swords Dance!
Its Attack rose sharply!
Blissey used Seismic Toss!
The substitute took damage for Groudon!
The substitute broke.

Groudon lost 101 HP. If it didn't use Substitute, two S-Tosses will do 200 damage.

Phazon September 15th, 2007 12:57 PM

Oh yeah. I should have figured that out.

Groudon can't learn fire punch, unless it only learns it on ruby..

Faceless* September 15th, 2007 1:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi Uchiha (Post 2888793)
Groudon @:Leftovers
Trait: Drought
Adamant Nature
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Substitute (Have max 404 hp with this one). You better hope that this isn't for competitive.

Groudon doesnt need Swords Dance, its attack power is already monstrously high

Phazon September 15th, 2007 1:20 PM

How about Fire Blast to replace it then?

Provided I go with the moveset I made..


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