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Xilion_Sword90 June 16th, 2004 8:27 AM

Tear this team up plz
 
Saw the title? This is my friends team. He wanted me to post it. He doesn't know about EVs and he didn't read Frostweaver's guide. In fact, he never read a guide in his whole life. He uses Legendarys but no strategy. So rip this stupid team to shreds.

[email protected] Water
Surf
Waterfall
Water Spout
Hydro Pump
*It's horrible, I know...

2. [email protected] Fang
Dragon Claw
Outrage
Dive
Hyper Beam
*...

3. [email protected]
Overheat
Solarbeam
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
*His best guy...

4. [email protected] Spoon
Psychic
Fly
Recover
Refresh

5. [email protected] Rock
Rock Tomb
Ancient Power
Rock Throw
Superpower

6. [email protected]
Blizzard
Ice Beam
Icy Wind
Superpower

Now guess why I have a 105 win record against this guy...

Mew9 June 16th, 2004 8:45 AM

well, i've never read frosty's strategy, so i can go 2 his level. and i'm sorry, but dat team SUCKS!!! Kygore has 4 WATER attacks!!! Big no no.
Kygore
Surf(its hard to go through the game without a surfer)
Ice Beam (anti-toxicicating Oddish)
Double-Edge
I dunno...... i hav Ruby and don't use water 'mon xecpt Huntail

Rayquaza
Dragon Claw
Hyper Beam
Crunch
Dragon Dance/Extremespeed

Groudon
Eruption
Earthquake
Rest?
Solarbeam

Latios
Psychic
Fly
Dragon Claw
Recover


I don't believe in the regis, so i won't comment. Stupid regis. and u may want to mention 2 him about havin TOO much legendaries.

Frostweaver June 16th, 2004 2:06 PM

Kyogre- [sp.atk or speed + / atk -] @ mystic water/lum berry
EV: Speed and Sp.atk
-ice beam
-water spout/hydro pump/surf
-thunder (what? no thunder abuse with free rain dance?)
-HP Grass/ancientpower

Rayquaza- [atk or sp.atk + / the other attack -, or even neutral...] @ lum berry/liechi/salac/petaya berry
EV: offensives, speed
-dragon dance/substitute
-extremespeed
-2 offensive move that's decent...

Too flexible...

Groudon- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers
EV: attack, hp/def
-fire blast
-protect
-earthquake
-rock slide/return/HP Physical

Latios- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ lum berry/leftovers (not soul dew... as if it isn't ubar enough)
EV: sp.atk, speed, sp.def, hp
-thunderbolt/ice beam
-dragon claw
-calm mind
-recover

Regirock- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ leftovers/quick claw
EV: Atk, hp, sp.def
-rock slide
-explosion/rest
-earthquake
-more physical junk...

Regice- [def or sp.atk + / atk -] @ leftovers
EV: Def, hp, sp.atk
-ice beam
-thunderbolt
-toxic/thunderwave
-rest

Feel free to insert seismic toss

Mew9 June 16th, 2004 3:22 PM

No psychic on Latios???!!! Ur crazy! He doesn't hav ne1 else w/ Psychic! And Fire Blast over Eruption on Groudon? Ur crazy!!! SAcrifice acc. for LESS power!!! Ui-yi-yi!

Frostweaver June 16th, 2004 5:55 PM

and not everything needs STAB...

Latios has psychic dumped because only fighting and poison types are weak to psychic... fighting types die regardless of psychic or not anyway because soul dew is ubar. And poison types are very rare... just Weezing and it's not hard to handle for a special sweeper (Weezing is physical). Also the team lacked coverage over the elementals, so minor sacrifices must be made.

Eruption is good... if you can even pull it off. Your damage goes down as your current hp goes down, so what's the point? So really this is getting more power. Groudon isn't that fast... and even if a full-powered Eruption hits, it isn't even nearly as strong as Water Spout from Kyogre, which makes the risk not wrothy. Groudon doesn't even get STAB... plus your only goal with fire blast is anti-Meta and anti-Skarm/Weezing. With sunny day in effect, it's enough already.

Mew9 June 16th, 2004 6:49 PM

Psychic may not b super effective against most types, but it still kicks @$$. U can't deny dat. My Latias w/ psychic kill every 'mon the ghoast E4 dude put up against it. u can pull off eruption - Groudon learns it. But ur prob. right, Fire Blast doesn't diminish in power.

Frostweaver June 16th, 2004 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mew9
Psychic may not b super effective against most types, but it still kicks @$$. U can't deny dat. My Latias w/ psychic kill every 'mon the ghoast E4 dude put up against it. u can pull off eruption - Groudon learns it. But ur prob. right, Fire Blast doesn't diminish in power.

dragon claw also receives STAB, and is not that much lower in power... Dragon claw's power lies in the ability to kill OU Salamences, and only steel type resist it. However, common T-tars and Metas are completely resistant to Psychic, which is not that good...


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