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Pokedragonfire June 16th, 2004 2:03 PM

I made a team
 
I'm gonna make a team (yay) Rate it or fix it or whatever. Okay, here we go:

BLAZIKEN!!! (I knew you didn't see that coming :D)
I think he'll be the Physical Sweeper
Item: Salac Berry
Nature: +Speed/-Sp.Attack (so Reversal can work)
Counter
Reversal
Endure
Overheat/Blaze Kick

Hmm, Milotic will be my Special Sweeper
Nature: +SpAttack/-SpDefence
Item:
ICE BEAM :D
Surf
Rain Dance/Attract/Double Team
Recover

Now for: the baton passer To help with blaziken. (Massive attack & Speed=Deadly :P)(Using Gameshark to get sub until FR/LG)

Ninjask
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Umm, don't know.
substitute
protect
swords dance
baton pass

Um, now for the Pseudohazer
???(I was thinking of Crobat but I don't think he has Whirlwind)
Item:???
Nature:???
Haze
Roar/Whirlwind
Hey I need help with this one!!!

Okay, now for the Staller :P
Cradily :P
Item: Maybe Leftovers
Nature: -Attack/+Defence or Sp Defence
Confuse Ray
Double Team
Ingrain
Toxic

And, a dragon, because I wanted one in my team (I know, its a bad reason but...maybe a better reason would be in case Blaziken/Ninjask fails)
Salamence
Item:King's Rock???
Nature: +Attack/-Defence???
Aerial Ace (for annoying Double Teams)
Dragon Dance
Dragon Breath
Brick Break maybe or a Headbutt with King's Rock

All right, now tell me what you think :P

Frostweaver June 16th, 2004 2:20 PM

Blaziken- if you're going to endure, why are you using counter... it's contradictary. Switch out counter for Rock slide or HP Ghost so you aren't that helpless against Gengars. Use overheat or flamethrower or fire blast, but NEVER blaze kick. EV in speed and attack.

Milotic- use modest instead... you don't need physical attack power but you'll certainly need sp.def. The 3rd slot should be either mirror coat or toxic.

Ninjask- silver wind or aerial ace over protect just so you can attack... you can either use attack + or speed + personality. If you use speed +, then attack power can't be that high, but you will be more defensive. If you use attack +, then Ninjask can get into the 300s with attack, but will be as fragile as paper.

Pseudohazer- tons of things with roar... and only water/poison types can learn haze most of the time... it's really up to you to decide.

Cradily- change double team to HP Fire... if you ingrain yourself, and the opponent switches to a steel type... that'll result in a very unhappy ending for you. Either way I'm never too fond of Cradily with ingrain... you do indeed heal an awesome lot, but the self-mean look is pure chaos... Zangoose messes you up severely so be careful. You don't have to use HP Fire but HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ATTACK!

Physical Salamence- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ lum berry
EV: Attack and speed, hp
-dragon dance
-earthquake
-aerial ace
-fire blast

Must... promote... my... movesets... *cough*

Special Salamence- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ lum berry/leftovers
EV: same as above except attack becomes sp.atk
-hydro pump/protect
-flamethrower/fire blast
-dragon claw
-HP Special/brick break

It does work as I've seen some, but never used it myself... so don't trust me on this one.

Pokedragonfire June 16th, 2004 3:26 PM

Revised:

BLAZIKEN!!! :D
Physical Sweeper
Item: Salac Berry
Nature: +Speed/-Sp.Attack (so Reversal can work)
Reversal
Endure
Overheat/Flamethrower
Earthquake

Milotic
Special Sweeper
Nature: +SpAttack/-Attack
Item:
Ice Beam
Surf
Mirror Coat
Recover

Ninjask
Baton passer
Item: Leftovers
Nature: +Speed/-SpAttack
Substitute
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance
Baton Pass

Masquerain
Pseudohazer
Item: +Defence when hp is low Berry (I forgot the name)
Nature: +SpDefence/-Attack
Haze
Whirlwind
Stun Spore
Silver Wind

Cradily
Staller
Item: Leftovers
Nature: -Attack/+Defence or Sp Defence
Confuse Ray
Ancient Power
Recover
Toxic

Salamence
Backup Physical
Item: Lum Berry
Nature: +Attack/-Sp. Attack
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Fire Blast (Why no Flamethrower?)

Is that any better? Wait, I need some electric or grass!!! I will suffer against water :(
Scrap Salamence, I need some Electric!
Meh likes Latios
Latios
Special Sweeper #2
Item: Soul dew
Nature: +SpAttack or Defence/-Attack
Thunderbolt
Psychic
Calm Mind
Dragon Claw

That's better, I think...

Xilion_Sword90 June 16th, 2004 4:25 PM

Latios
Special Sweeper #2
Item: Soul dew
Nature: +SpAttack or Defence/-Attack
Recover
Surf
Calm Mind
Dragon Claw

lil' jose June 16th, 2004 4:33 PM

You could use a raichu with alot of powerups on it. You could use plusle! He/She/It is ALOT stronger than he looks!

My plusle:
Position: Special Sweeper (?)
Item:Magnet
Attacks:
Zap connon (i think can't remember)
Thunder
Shock wave
Thunderbolt
if not zc it is thunder wave!

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 4:35 PM

Woah, no offense, lil jose, but your Plusle has absoulutely no strategy.

lil' jose June 16th, 2004 4:42 PM

I know but I still have it know that! I also have another plusle that know agility just incase it runs upon something faster than plusle!

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 4:43 PM

What about if you find something ground type? Oh forget about this, we're sailing off topic so We'll take this to PM.

lil' jose June 16th, 2004 4:44 PM

Yeah we kinda are. But Pokedragonfire you should have a Plusle in your team! Not iwth my moves though!

Pokedragonfire June 16th, 2004 4:45 PM

Meh needs thunderbolt, maybe I can add in recover in place of Dragon Claw, but I need some thunder type attacks, don't I? Just incase? And don't I already have surf on Milotic? Plus, I need some good Psychic attacks too...He is more like a backup for pokemon that Blaziken or Milotic is weak to maybe I should replace Psychic with Shadow Ball...

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 4:48 PM

What you need is a superpowerful ground attack like earthquake...

lil' jose June 16th, 2004 4:50 PM

I think now you should have Kyogre with Lighting and earthquake! (i hope you have saphhire!)

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 4:51 PM

Kyogre can learn electric moves o__0?

Pokedragonfire June 16th, 2004 4:52 PM

I like Latios better! Plusle doesn't have great stats and it can't be a hazer or a baton passer so I think I'll pass on the Plusle. I have both Ruby and Sapphire so I don't have to worry about that, plus I have a gameshark so I can shark moves from FR/LG if I have to. :P

lil' jose June 16th, 2004 4:53 PM

Oh oaky that'll work too!

Yes kyogre can learn electric moves! Only because it's a legendary!

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 4:53 PM

Plusle is not a great fighter unless some miracle happens *angelic music* it happened with me! I beat almost the whole elite 4 with Plusle!!! Latios is a very good choice. It should have a variety of attacks. 2 offensice 2 defensice.

Pokedragonfire June 16th, 2004 4:54 PM

And pokemon from FR/LG too....Like Deoxys and Lugia, and Charizard and...

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 4:56 PM

And... what? Bulbasaur XD
Lugia and Charizard are good. Deoxys I don't know too much about. Also instead of Salamence, why not Rayquaza?

Pokedragonfire June 16th, 2004 5:03 PM

I changed it to Latios, because of its good SpAttack with soul dew and so I can have a pokemon just incase my other ones are weak to something. Rayquazza has strong attack so thunderbolt is not as effective on it.

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 5:04 PM

Latios though I think is better now that I think because it's not as weak to ice attacks.

Frostweaver June 16th, 2004 5:52 PM

Rayqy has equal attack stats in both... thunderbolt is almost equal to earthquake (just 5 power off) if both stats are maxed out EV with neutral personality.

Latios with soul dew is darn ubar... I personally like sub and calm mind on it though instead of recover, to block toxic and sub is hard to beat for sp.sweeper... repeat and then sweep away.

Plusle = worst than Minun = worst than Raichu... in terms of battle, that's the flow of things

Masquerain having BOTH pseudohaze and haze is overkill... keep one and dump the other. Masquerain is completely NU so beware (cough low stats cough)

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 5:56 PM

I agree that PLusle is veeerrrryyyy bad at combat.

Ice demon June 16th, 2004 5:58 PM

Plusle - if this is what u want try
Plusle[timid]-
EVs -Def 256, Sp 128, SpDef 128
thunderbolt/HP ice/HP water
attract/substitute/thunderwave
baton pass
agility

or Plusle[modest]
EVs - Sp 256, SpAtt 256
thunderbolt
HP ice/grass/water
thunder wave
attract/agility

For Kyogre
EVs - SpDef 128, SpAtt 128, hp 256
ice beam
rest
thunder/calm mind
surf/hydro pump

For Latios[modest]
thunderbolt
psychic
recover
ice beam

These are the movesets i would use ^_^

+el_pal June 16th, 2004 5:59 PM

WEll I doubt they will use PLusle anyhow.

Frostweaver June 16th, 2004 6:15 PM

if Plusle is to be used...

Plusle- [speed + / atk -] @ leftovers/lum berry
EV: Speed, sp.def+hp
-light screen (hope you go first)
-wish/encore
-thunderwave
-seismic toss

Set up the screen, wave anything. Wish to heal team/self, and seismic toss as a last minute move... gets messed by any physical attacks. With light screen, you'll live those sp.attacks... Can always encore those annoying Jolt starters. If they sub, encore them to stop baton pass. If they bolt, well set up light screen and let them cry in vain or switch out... if they twave, let lum berry heal it off, and send out Duggy for slaughter. If it HP you, then... light screen?


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