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El Gofre September 18th, 2007 12:24 PM

Most Useless pokemon?
 
Im talkin about pokes that idiots u hav faced hav used. mine's gotta be raticate without any of the elemental fang moves, i was tempted to let it exhaust its hp against my metagros lol

Faceless* September 18th, 2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 2900945)
Im talkin about pokes that idiots u hav faced hav used. mine's gotta be raticate without any of the elemental fang moves, i was tempted to let it exhaust its hp against my metagros lol

Raticate can pwn you :o (its the truth... ever heard of FEAR? :D)

Most useless.... would be Magicrap Magikarp

This goes in Pokemon General, and there's already a thread for this isnt there?

Dark Azelf September 18th, 2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2901020)
Raticate can pwn you :o (its the truth... ever heard of FEAR? :D)

Most useless.... would be Magicrap Magikarp

This goes in Pokemon General, and there's already a thread for this isnt there?

Yeah that or DunDiscrace Dunsparce, i really dont get it lol

krosk September 18th, 2007 12:43 PM

Well, Magikarp is THE useless Pokemon by definition. Even the game also tells us that people (in the game) wonder how this Pokemon could become so... weak.

But, actually, there are quite a lot of weak, if not useless, Pokemons in the game.

Faceless* September 18th, 2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 2901029)
Yeah that or DunDiscrace Dunsparce, i really dont get it lol

About Raticate? O then... Ill explain :

Level 20 Raticate VS Level 100 Heracross(EXAMPLE)
Heracross uses Close Combat
Raticate survives with Focus Sash
Raticate uses Endeavor
Heracross is left with 1 HP
Raticate uses Quick Attack
Heracross got p*nt

You see? Cheap tactics :\

Dunsparce has Serene Grace... I know crazy

El Gofre September 18th, 2007 12:45 PM

Sorry i didnt make it clear, wots the most usless pokemon a real person has seriously used against u, as in over wifi? and wot is FEAR?

Richard Lynch September 18th, 2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 2900945)
Im talkin about pokes that idiots u hav faced hav used. mine's gotta be raticate without any of the elemental fang moves, i was tempted to let it exhaust its hp against my metagros lol

Actuallly... there's something called "Rattata of Death", and can massacre a team with the element of surprise on its hands. The following set is actually my own, and is a variation of the normal Endure/Reversal set.

Raticats @ Focus Sash
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
- Swords Dance
- Reversal
- Quick Attack
- Sucker Punch

Okay... here's what you do.

Use this beast as a lead (or not, if you want to scout for Sandstream), and (be absolutely CERTAIN that the foe will try to OHKO you) use Swords Dance. It will stay alive with 1HP, allowing you to try to sweep with Reversal, and Quick Attack for a quick KO. Sucker Punch is for pesky Ghost types that switches in to rain on your parade.

With 97 base Speed, it can outrun a number of maxed Speed Pokemon (mostly in the UU metagame), since he has one of the higher base Speeds of UU Pokemon. It's a huge novelty, but can work if you use it right. And like any Endure/Reversal set, you've got to watch out for Sandstorm.

After a Swords Dance, Raticate's Attack stat reaches roughly 522, and with the low HP boost, Reversal's talking about some serious damage. Something like Skarmory would wall him to no degree, but UU Raticate has no right playing in the same ballpark as OU Skarmory and company.

El Gofre September 18th, 2007 12:46 PM

ah i get it now Name, either way this kid was usin bite quick attack and hyper/super fang (Didnt get to see last move lol)

Dark Azelf September 18th, 2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2901049)
About Raticate? O then... Ill explain :

Level 20 Raticate VS Level 100 Heracross(EXAMPLE)
Heracross uses Close Combat
Raticate survives with Focus Sash
Raticate uses Endeavor
Heracross is left with 1 HP
Raticate uses Quick Attack
Heracross got p*nt

You see? Cheap tactics :\

Dunsparce has Serene Grace... I know crazy

No i understand perfectly about F.E.A.R / Raticate


Its Dunsparce i dont get lol, the fact that it doesnt even represent a snake, has Serence Grace and the fact that it needed an Evo REALLY badly


@Magikarp haters, have you seen what Magikarp evolves into, not quite as Useless then is it Eh ?

Faceless* September 18th, 2007 12:50 PM

Dunsparce was incredibly an annoying Pokemon to battle in the N64 Stadium 2 game. It uses Toxic then Protect... Protect could go forever in that Gen.. XD

J-Rad September 18th, 2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 2901067)
No i understand perfectly about F.E.A.R / Raticate


Its Dunsparce i dont get lol, the fact that it doesnt even represent a snake, has Serence Grace and the fact that it needed an Evo REALLY badly


@Magikarp haters, have you seen what Magikarp evolves into, not quite as Useless then is it Eh ?

i know I heard they might make a dragon normal evol for it if they do a 5th gen, but its generaly worthless, magikarb seems pointless, but is a beast when it evolves

robbman14 September 18th, 2007 1:06 PM

Unown :P Only learns one move and it's very weak. Magikarp too.

sims796 September 19th, 2007 7:20 AM

This is soon to be moved to poke general, but I'm not here to complain.

Now, we can't call Magikarp useless. That sounds dumb. He's unevoled, so he doesn't count. You can't count unevolved. Alakazam is extremely powerful, but would you use Abra? Garchomp is a monster, but why whould you even mention Gible?

Dunsparce, damn, I forgot about him completley.

rishi 20 September 19th, 2007 7:22 AM

the king of this has to be metapod

sims796 September 19th, 2007 7:31 AM

What did I just say? Stop saying unevoled pokes. Why the hell would you even consider using Metapod when we have Butterfree? All unevoled except Pikachu w/Light Ball are useless.

Alter Ego September 19th, 2007 7:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2903110)
What did I just say? Stop saying unevoled pokes. Why the hell would you even consider using Metapod when we have Butterfree? All unevoled except Pikachu w/Light Ball are useless.

So apparently you have never heard of CB Trapinch (100 Base Atk, STAB Earthquake and Arena Trap) or Deepseatooth Clamperl (Formely highest attainable SAtk it the game)? They're more NU type stuff, but they do pack quite a punch. Magnemite has also been proven capable of performing all of Magneton's tasks back in the advance format. Also, FEAR works better on Phanphy:

Phanphy @ Focus Sash (Level 1)
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
Ice Shard
Endeavor

It's sandstorm immune and can hit ghosts with its finishing move. Stealth Rock and Spikes still screw it over, though.

But you know...the most useless thing I can think of has got to be this topic. Same old species biggotry introduced by someone with grade-school grammar. Big whop. -.-

sims796 September 19th, 2007 8:00 AM

True enough. But the thing is, would you consider putting unevoled on a most useless list? Honestly. Come on now. Other than a choice few, unevolved are just miniature version of their evolved counterparts. I'm sure you got my point when you quoted me. He said Metapod was useless. Why say that? Its soul purpose is to evolve. I wasn't saying unevoled were necessarily useless, but still, why bother putting them on a most useless list?

Insulting the thread maker wasn't needed. If you feel the topic useless, why post in it? Species bigotry? Come on now. Their virtual sprites. Some are great, some are useless. This is only in the wrong forum.

El Gofre September 19th, 2007 9:57 AM

Alter Ego if this thread is so useless why contribute? oh and my grammar is fine accordin to my GCSE English result of an A. If ur american, thats the highest grade you can get. I talk like this cuz its quicker

Faceless* September 19th, 2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 2903406)
Alter Ego if this thread is so useless why contribute? oh and my grammar is fine accordin to my GCSE English result of an A. If ur american, thats the highest grade you can get. I talk like this cuz its quicker

... Why do you NEED to post quicker? :P This is a forum, not IM ?_?

Zaikiro September 19th, 2007 11:27 AM

Magikarp @ Salac Berry
Jolly Nature
EV: 252 HP / 252 Spd
Tackle
Flail

It can do something .D:

Anti September 19th, 2007 11:27 AM

Well, magikarp=fail. Yeah, gyarados is great, but magikarp is rather fail-ish. IT is the face of useless pokemon, but if you want something fully evolved, it's gotta be TTar...just kidding. Really though, it's dunsparce...it is so useless.

TB Pro September 19th, 2007 5:56 PM

Thats true and it NEEDS an evolution!If it had an evolution that boosted its stats as much as Magikarp to Gyra it would be a MONSTER a total MONSTER!

Samson September 19th, 2007 8:18 PM

actually, dunsparce isn't useless. i use it myself for Counter, Mirror Coat, and Endeavor. it almost always OHKOs something with Mirror Coat or Counter (most likely Counter) or paralyzes something that can't handle being paralzed.

Iceman3k September 19th, 2007 8:48 PM

Dunsparce with Body Slam + Headbutt
gg

Samson September 19th, 2007 9:18 PM

XD don't forget bite.

only if it had agility or something to double its speed. it wouldn't be as broken as Togekiss, but somewhere near there.


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