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Te-em September 29th, 2007 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Me2UJus4Free (Post 2933720)



Please let this be a parody. There is no way someone would think 8-bit graphics look better than 16-bit.

I said compared to th erelease year. Also compared to the console. The Stadium games looks better than Colloseum, since its N64 graphics. Colloseum is not GC graphics (was supposed to be released to N64 in the first place anyway).

I think the old games are harder. I played LeafGreen and there is a Rocket that has a very strong Pokemon in Green version. They've changed his Pokemon to weak ones and now he's easy.

WarHawk September 29th, 2007 8:21 AM

I agree with Te-em,I ALWAYS thought the old games were harder.

Te-em September 29th, 2007 9:40 AM

They also feel somewhat more serious. The battle music is not so speedy and "happy", it's more "serious battle"-music. I would like to hear that in the new games, but the closest is FR/LG. Whenever I play Green verison it feels like the main character is a Trainer that alone (with his Pokemon) will have to take on a lot of tough Trainers and his confident rival. In the new games the main character is surroundedby a lot of friends that encourage you and everything feels much lighter and easier. Even your rivals are friendly.

Shiny_Hunter September 29th, 2007 10:07 AM

I say the old games because they had a better plot then the new games.

Anti September 29th, 2007 10:19 AM

Since I'm into the whole competitive battling thing, the new games are better, since they have more moves and pokemon. D/P took a step back from ADV though IMO...pokemon had more charm in the older games, that's for sure. We were all new to it, so of course we all think those are the best. Ruby was my 1st PKMN game, and remains my favorite, probably because of that. We could then argue we all have biased opinions based on that...

ShadowTails September 29th, 2007 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiny_Hunter (Post 2941443)
I say the old games because they had a better plot then the new games.

o.o Excuse me? better plot my foot... it's the same exact thing each time "Team _____ is trying to accomplish _____ and you have to stop them, along the way beat the Gym Leaders and the Elite Four." I don't call that better than "Team Galatica is trying to accomplish taking over time/space and you have to stop them, along the way beat the Gym Leaders and the Eliete Four." It's the same exact thing in RYB/GSC, but in GSC you get a watered down Kanto and Pokemon that are way below level in the wild...

Te-em September 29th, 2007 10:43 AM

Yes, it's the same plot in all the games, but it was new in the old ones. That's why it was better in the old games, because then the plot was new. They should have changed it in the other games released after. In G/R/B it was original, now, it's not any more.

Shiny_Hunter September 29th, 2007 11:18 AM

sorry i meant to say it was a bit more challanging. At least in my opinion.

Anti September 29th, 2007 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Te-em (Post 2941639)
Yes, it's the same plot in all the games, but it was new in the old ones. That's why it was better in the old games, because then the plot was new. They should have changed it in the other games released after. In G/R/B it was original, now, it's not any more.

IT was still a suckt plot...I was about 8 years old and I predicted that, and thought it was "lame" lol...

Tamaki September 29th, 2007 2:55 PM

i prefer the newer games, only because they have better graphics, and im HUGE on good graphics

Improfane September 29th, 2007 3:03 PM

Me2UJus4Free (and you ShadowTails), you cannot refute the opinion that old school games are preferred by fans. It's like person A and B go on two rides together. Person B prefers one ride and tries to tell person A it is better. You are person B and you are wrong.
The older games are harder because there's no help menu built in game.
You can't rematch trainers. You don't always know what to do.

The newer games are technically superior but the old games have well designed Pokemon, storyline and are always memorable.
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Originally Posted by Me2UJus4Free
Please let this be a parody. There is no way someone would think 8-bit graphics look better than 16-bit.

Yes. I can. I don't really like the Pokemon in Pearl/Diamond. If I can play without them, in a game without bad Pokemon, I'll think that game (and its associated graphics) as better.

You're saying that if you put two pictures beside eachother - a RBY/GSC Charmander and compare it to a D/P Charmander. The D/P Charmander will look better. That is obvious. That is a technical superiority! You're comparing the graphics alone next to eachother. I don't play games only for graphics ;)

Ruby/Sapphire Pokemon were pushing it for me but Diamond and Pearl is just a joke.

Me2UJus4Free, you are way to hostile. Just accept that someone (fortunately) thinks different to you :)

Anti September 29th, 2007 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Improfane (Post 2942679)
Me2UJus4Free (and you ShadowTails), you cannot refute the opinion that old school games are preferred by fans. It's like person A and B go on two rides together. Person B prefers one ride and tries to tell person A it is better. You are person B and you are wrong.
The older games are harder because there's no help menu built in game.
You can't rematch trainers. You don't always know what to do.

The newer games are technically superior but the old games have well designed Pokemon, storyline and are always memorable.

Yes. I can. I don't really like the Pokemon in Pearl/Diamond. If I can play without them, in a game without bad Pokemon, I'll think that game (and its associated graphics) as better.

You're saying that if you put two pictures beside eachother - a RBY/GSC Charmander and compare it to a D/P Charmander. The D/P Charmander will look better. That is obvious. That is a technical superiority! You're comparing the graphics alone next to eachother. I don't play games only for graphics ;)

Ruby/Sapphire Pokemon were pushing it for me but Diamond and Pearl is just a joke.

Me2UJus4Free, you are way to hostile. Just accept that someone (fortunately) thinks different to you :)

I agree that D/P is a joke. the graphics continue to improve...ironically, the pokemon designs keep plummeting. Just look at happiny, or magmortar. I could've drawn something better than that!

TB Pro September 29th, 2007 9:44 PM

seriosly.I have drawn something better than that and i'm 13!They need to take time to design the pokemon like they did back in toe old games.but other than that I like the new games better.....kinda.

Harper September 29th, 2007 9:53 PM

Yeh, ive noticed some of the newer pokemon were... ugly
they just looked to unreal. i rekon they went in a downward spiral after G/S/C. those were the last of the good pkmn...

Te-em September 30th, 2007 5:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gonbeneko25 (Post 2942646)
i prefer the newer games, only because they have better graphics, and im HUGE on good graphics

I you think the Pokemon graphics are good you haven't played many other RPGs. And if you still think the graphics are good, I would like to know what makes you like them. I've heard many people say the graphics in Pocket Monsters are bad.
I should not complain too much on the field graphics, but the battle graphics are the worst.

DanKiba8 September 30th, 2007 1:03 PM

i think they are better but not better than diamond

Syaoran_2001 October 1st, 2007 1:09 PM

It's hard for me to think of Gold and Silver as being "old" or "classic," it doesn't seem that long ago that they came out. Maybe it's because I stopped playing Pokemon after Crystal was released and they still seem like they're the newest Pokemon games to me.

As for graphics. I love the graphics in G/S, they're pretty good for the Gameboy. Red and Blue graphics are a little worse, but they don't bother me, it's the Gameboy, I expect Gameboy graphics to look like that. Now what was really cool was putting Red/Blue or Gold/Silver in your Super Gameboy on the SNES and being able to play the game on your TV in full color, that was awesome.

Shiraishi October 1st, 2007 1:17 PM

Competitive battling only existed in pokemon stadium 2 until R/S/E so no. The only good thing about the only games is that they were fun to explore because no one really used the internet for those games. D/P is great.

SilencedShooter October 4th, 2007 12:42 PM

Crystal was a favorite of mine, and still is....Emerald is also a favorite of mine...Yellow was sweet...And I haven't played Diamond and Pearl...

I like them all, but I guess I like the "middle" ones the best. (GSC/RSE)

Syaoran_2001 October 4th, 2007 12:59 PM

Everyone keeps mentioning competitive battling, what does that mean? Aren't all battles competitive?

SilencedShooter October 4th, 2007 1:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran_2001 (Post 2961417)
Everyone keeps mentioning competitive battling, what does that mean? Aren't all battles competitive?

Battles with real people. It's a whole different ballgame compared to in-game trainers.

Me2UJus4Free October 4th, 2007 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Improfane (Post 2942679)
Blah, blah, blah. My words are truth lulz.

You should probably take your own advice, hun. It's called double standers, go look it up.

The newer games are better. They are more fun and have more side quest than the older game. You cannot deny that. Your opinion is completely bias and has no deph. Just because you have opinion does not make you right.

The Fallen October 4th, 2007 3:43 PM

I seem to get more joy out of the older games to be honest. It could quite possibly be because it brings back childhood memories and all that. Going over to friends how and link battling and trading to complete our pokedexes.

I know the graphics were far from what they are now, but the games were just all around better back then they are now for some reason.

Skelter October 4th, 2007 3:53 PM

I really think that the old ones were much better. For one, i liked the story better and i loved how you could collect 16 badges in silver-gold-crystal. If the game had the wi-fi capabilities that diamond and pearl have today, it'd definitely be one of the best games out there....

Nastara October 8th, 2007 6:32 PM

While nostalgia tells me Gold/Silver/Crystal are the best, D/P improved on it in almost every way. So no the older games aren't better. R/S/E even brought the challange factor back somewhat which was lacking in G/S/C.


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