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Neo Android October 1st, 2007 5:10 AM

When i was catching the 3 psyhic pokemon in sinnoh, it was striking to me how much a like they looked to mew. I thought there was a connection since the four of them are all psyhic type and have cat-like apperances. I find it even stranger that Arecus created the world but cant learn every TM or HM while mew can, since if arecus created pokemon would'nt it of also created there abilitys/unqiuness?

I really like how this discussion is going its really intresting to read all the respones and different views/theories ^_^

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Trainer Trance October 1st, 2007 6:18 AM

I've always thought Mew was something like a fetus...

http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/fetus.jpg

The image that link leads to isn't human, but still, similarities to the older pictures of Mew...

Blaziken_Boy October 1st, 2007 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NessStar3000 (Post 2949333)
As far as I know, Mew posesses the same DNA genetic code of all existing pokrmon, so maybe Mew can be referred as the beginning of pokemon in general?

... It's possible... Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit worked together to make Mew, the first Pokemon other than the gods. It's like the mortal Arceus.

Gymnotide October 1st, 2007 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel Shaymin (Post 2948891)
Zapdos- Thunder
Articuno- Ice
Moltres- Fire
Mew- Everything under Arceus
Mewtwo- Clone of Mew
Entei- Moltres's Underling
Suicune- Articuno's Underling
Raikou- Zapdos's Underling
Ho-oh - Rainbow
Lugia - Sea
Celebi - Dialga's Underling
Latios - Protecting the Soul Dew
Latias - Proteting the Soul Dew
Regirock - Brail
Regice- Brail
Registeel - Brail
Kyogre- Rain
Groudon- Sun
Rayquaza- Weather
Jirachi- Wishes
Deoxys- Palkia's Underling
Azelf- Created Sinnoh
Mesprit - Created Sinnoh
Uxie - Created Sinnoh
Giratina - Ghosts
Darkrai - Dreams
Cresselia - Moon
Manaphy - Hearts
Shaymin - Grass / Flowers
Dialga - Time
Palkia - Space
Regigigas - Lord of the Regis
Arceus - Creator of Everything

Actually, it was said that Entei, Suicune and Raikou are underlings of Ho-oh somewhere. And it's truth.

Isn't it safe to catergorize the Pokemon in categories? You don't have to believe me.

Lugia - guardian of the sea
-- Articuno - Frost, the ANKA
-- Zapdos - Lightning, the WAKINYAN
-- Moltres - Flame, Rebirth (?), the PHOENIX

Lugia is the "guardian of the sea" which we learn from Pokemon 2000, and then there was that corny thing about how ice + fire = water and then the electricity from Zapdos creates an underwater current and all of them have to be in equilibrium or else the sea becomes chaotic and all horror is ensued upon human and Pokemon-kind alike. Rebirth is added to Moltres because we learn in Pokemon Chronicles that it can rejuvenate itself by immersing in lava - perhaps it is the "healing" quality of fire (And Naruto too if you understand ;)). I read somewhere when I was learning about Absaroka Native Americans on Wikipedia about the "thunderbird" Wakinyan. It might have to do with that. I also read somewhere that Articuno was based on the Anka, which would save mountaineers in peril - it happened in one of those episodes with the Sunflora.

Ho-oh - guardian of the sky, marking a Hero's path, reincarnation
-- Entei - Flame, Courage / Loyalty (?), Heat, KIRIN (?)
-- Raikou - Thunder
-- Suicune - Cold, Purity, BOREAS

Raikou is Thunder, not Lightning. It said so in Pokemon Chronicles. Suicune is the embodiment of the North Wind, or in Greek, Boreas - the cold. It has also demonstrated its powers to purify water and such. Entei, not sure, but I think in Spell of the Unown, that's what Entei was all about. Being courageous and loyal. Being GREEK! Y'know. Also, maybe the reason why it runs around the world is to give off heat to the world, like Kirin, that Chinese thing. Ho-oh is a rainbow Pokemon, it reincarnated the three legendary dogs. I would connect it with Iris, but you've had enough Greek for one day.

Latios and Latias - Balance (?)

No explanation for this one. They kind of have their own story. Yin-Yang?

Rayquaza - protector of the atmosphere
Kyogre and Groudon - LEVIATHAN AND BEHEMOTH

I think it has something to do with Hebrew religion, but I wouldn't know. Kyogre and Groudon are opposites of land and sea, which kind of leads to thinking that they resemble Leviathan and Behemoth. Adding onto this, they also have a fight which would end the world, much like Leviathan and Behemoth do.

Arceus - Creator
-- Dialga - Time
-- Palkia - Space
-- Giratina - EVIL!

Well, the Sinnoh story made it pretty clear which was what. I noticed this and then double checked on Bulbapedia. Giratina has 6 of everything. It's probably a reference on Christianity - God creates time and space and then the Devil betrays him.

Darkrai and Cresselia

Darkrai = sleep, Cresselia = awakening. I think this is a pretty simple parallel.

Regigigas - Creator of Continents
-- Regice
-- Registeel
-- Regirock

Golems, anyone? Continents. They're all parts of the Earth. Regice resembles tundras, glaciers, and the like. Regirock resembles deserts, wastelands, plainlands, etc. Registeel represents mineral mines... Or something. I'm making this up as I go along. Maybe it has something to do with the Ice Age.

If I really wanted to finish this long post, I would, but unfortunately I don't want to. Maybe later.

Trainer Trance October 1st, 2007 3:06 PM

Rayquaza = Ziz It is considered a giant animal/monster corresponding to the archetypal creatures Behemoth and Leviathan


There ya go with that one, even though in Jewish Mythology Ziz is a bird...

Gymnotide October 1st, 2007 4:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oniko (Post 2952027)
Rayquaza = Ziz It is considered a giant animal/monster corresponding to the archetypal creatures Behemoth and Leviathan


There ya go with that one, even though in Jewish Mythology Ziz is a bird...

Actually, it is perfectly veritable that Rayquaza can be the Long, the Chinese Dragon which controlled weather and was a sign of leadership - in this case the Leviathan and the Behemoth. Maybe.

nosferatu October 1st, 2007 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blaziken_Boy (Post 2951509)
... It's possible... Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit worked together to make Mew, the first Pokemon other than the gods. It's like the mortal Arceus.

exactly does anyone else see a link to chirstenty (sp?)
i cant remember exactly but i think there is like 8 levels of angels there is arch angels then ones that prtect cartain countrys and so on
Arceus= god
daigla palkia = arch angels
Giratina darkrai= fallen angels like satan lucifer ect.
Azelf Mesprit Uxie = more angels
mew= jesus
Cresselia= angel
the others ones have to do with other lengends and religons
latios, latias = ying yang
raquaza= chiense dragon
etc

DarkArcz October 2nd, 2007 8:47 AM

The Arceus myth also seems similar to this old creation myth I found on Wikipedia.

It tells of a giant called "Pangu" that emerged from an egg into chaotic nothingness. Pangu created the Earth and Sky, and was tasked with keeping them apart. Soon after he had succeeded in his task, his body parts became the sun, moon, mountains, etc...


The story of Arceus is similar to this one. Arceus hatched from an egg into nothingness. Arceus created Time and Space, while the giant created the Earth and Sky. The giant was tasked with keeping the two apart, something that Arceus, as the trio leader of the Legendary Dragons also presumably does. And while Arceus doesn't break up into bits, he too retires after creating the essentials for life.

Gibbo October 2nd, 2007 9:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nosferatu (Post 2952569)
exactly does anyone else see a link to chirstenty (sp?)
i cant remember exactly but i think there is like 8 levels of angels there is arch angels then ones that prtect cartain countrys and so on

I have never heard anything to that effect in my life...

I dunno why they gave Legendaries such importance in this game... I can almost see a twisted pokemon religion being born...

Blaziken_Boy October 2nd, 2007 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkArcz (Post 2954137)
The Arceus myth also seems similar to this old creation myth I found on Wikipedia.

It tells of a giant called "Pangu" that emerged from an egg into chaotic nothingness. Pangu created the Earth and Sky, and was tasked with keeping them apart. Soon after he had succeeded in his task, his body parts became the sun, moon, mountains, etc...


The story of Arceus is similar to this one. Arceus hatched from an egg into nothingness. Arceus created Time and Space, while the giant created the Earth and Sky. The giant was tasked with keeping the two apart, something that Arceus, as the trio leader of the Legendary Dragons also presumably does. And while Arceus doesn't break up into bits, he too retires after creating the essentials for life.

Arceus IS Pangu, he created the universe with his 1000 arms, which is why he has none.

Same with the religion, Nintendo ran out of legendary ideas.


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