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It depends on what you want Jimmy
Ice Fang and Earthquake for coverage. Waterfall and Earthquake for raw power. Damn i wish Hidden Power was still Physical............. Anyways Bronzong wont really do much, only thing it can really do is Blow the Hell up or if they use a rare one with Charge Beam. |
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you don't know what a counter is...jolteon isn't a counter for Gyara, it can't switch into it. As mentioned earlier, return doesn't OHKO skarm...no physical move does. I honestly loled at that claim. EQ>>>>>>>>>>return. i"ve played pokemon for years dude...your calculations were WAY off. EDIT: I lol at return...really. Your "experience" must've been REALLY messed up dude. |
I think I'm going with Return + Waterfall.
Anti-Pop ~ I happen to KNOW for an actual FACT that Return is better. Thanks for all your help though :D |
Wow. I missed Zapdos. Call the cops.
He has far too many options to say he needs Return for Coverage. Please, explain why Return is better. |
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That must be one messed up dictionary you're reading, because EQ is better than return. We're all telling you the same thing...Return OHKOs nothing EQ can't, except flyers. And guess what? If you're worried about that, give it ice fang over waterfall, which takes out that zapdos you were talking about... and gyara just uses taunt to skarmory, so it'll have to switch out, since drill peck does lol to it. It is so simple. |
I have no problem with him, but I would like him to explain what Return hits that EQ/SE doesn't.
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I already tried... But you all seem to think EQ. Let's just say it will sweep more pokemon with Return. Take an example battle:
WITH EQ: Jamie sends out Gyarados: Some Guy sends out Salamence Jamie uses... wait.. uhm.. Taunt? No... Uhm... Waterfall? Na... EQ? Damn it... With Return: Jamie sends out Gyarados Some Guy sends out Salamence Jamie uses Return Salamence dies Stone Edge = No, because I don't have the TM and it has bad other type coverage for a Gyarados. |
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EDIT: As for your example Jimmyray, ther eis this little move called ice fang it learns...far better than return. And Mence has intimidate. you'd have to DD up quite a bit to OHKO it. |
Same senario:
Jamie sends Gya sims sends Mence Jamie uses SE Mence is KOed I must run to the store for batteries... |
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You want to hit Super Effective on it, if Salamence is damaged you will KO it, you wont when its not Super Effective like Return isnt |
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and at the end of the day Return is used because of the STAB factor, on things like Snorlax and Slaking, and which is why you never see Metagross and stuff with Return.
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EDIT: Jeez, you people get your posts on here fast! |
How does rock/water hit every single type ._.;
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