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Sora_8920 October 1st, 2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2951180)
It just bothers me he says we're critizising him...isn't that the point of the forum? We are giving constructive critizism. There is no way we are all wrong, as we all agree except for you and you have no proof to back up your conclusion, thus it is bogus.

Yep. Give us a link to the sites name that you're getting the idea that Return is actually a usable option.

Dark Azelf October 1st, 2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2951180)
It just bothers me he says we're critizising him...isn't that the point of the forum? We are giving constructive critizism. There is no way we are all wrong, as we all agree except for you and you have no proof to back up your conclusion, thus it is bogus.

In fact, ill let him test it out.


I dont know if you have that Gyarados w/Return now or this a decision before you start breeding.

But never the less Jimmy, do you want a rematch with me so you can test out that THING and ill prove to you Ice fang EQ Stone Edge Waterfall or W/E are better than Return?

Anti October 1st, 2007 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 2951195)
Yep. Give us a link to the sites name that you're getting the idea that Return is actually a usable option.

That site should be destroyed.
EQ>Return.
Waterfall>Return
Ice Fang>Return
Stone Edge>Return
Heck, even Double-edge>return.

@Jimmyray-Why did you make this thread if you wouldn't accept our advice, which happens to be superior? Not to be arrogant, but it is...

Sora_8920 October 1st, 2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2951207)
That site should be destroyed.
EQ>Return.
Waterfall>Return
Ice Fang>Return
Stone Edge>Return
Heck, even Double-edge>return.

@Jimmyray-Why did you make this thread if you wouldn't accept our advice, which happens to be superior? Not to be arrogant, but it is...

If you mean the site that, if there is even a site that he's going to. Then yes, they should be destroyed.

sims796 October 1st, 2007 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 2950725)
-Ice Fang and EQ cover everything...return has terrible coverage. Walled by rock, steel, and ghost types. That's a lot of pokemon. Ironically, the move that would pair with it the best is EQ, since it hurts rock and steel types a lot. Still, that pair would fail, since Bronzong, skarm, gengar, etc. would laugh at you.

This comment got to me. How is Rock, Steel,and Ghost resist Ice Fang & EQ?

Rock=Weak to EQ
Steel=Weak to EQ
Ghost=Hit by Ice Fang

We aren't mad that you are using Return, but your reasons are absurd.

Anti October 1st, 2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2951237)
This comment got to me. How is Rock, Steel,and Ghost resist Ice Fang & EQ?

Rock=Weak to EQ
Steel=Weak to EQ
Ghost=Hit by Ice Fang

We aren't mad that you are using Return, but your reasons are absurd.

Exactly. Until Jimmyray gives us some VALID reasons to use return, I have no respect for him becasue of his attitude toward me. Anybody who uses return on Gyara and poorly attempts to back it up makes me lol. I'm not trying to be a jerk hear, but using return on gyara is like using my CB blissey set...not THAT bad, but the coverage is lol. you can't argue with that. End.

Faceless* October 1st, 2007 12:20 PM

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252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defense
Adamant

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Earthquake
Waterfall

!FOR THE LAST TIME IT IS CURRENTLY THIS ONE! Although the EV's are a bit incorrect

Anti October 1st, 2007 12:21 PM

Ice fang is an option over waterfall, but yes, you would be correct Name.

Dark Azelf October 1st, 2007 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Name (Post 2951244)
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252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Defense
Adamant

Dragon Dance
Taunt
Earthquake
Waterfall

!FOR THE LAST TIME IT IS CURRENTLY THIS ONE! Although the EV's are a bit incorrect

Yeah EVS are 214 HP 16 ATT 180 DEF 100 SPEED for TauntDos

luke October 1st, 2007 12:22 PM

Return was only viable on Gyarados in past generations when there was a lack of Physical moves in the snake's move pool. Why use it when there are better attacks available with better coverage. X.x;; I use EQ/Waterfall/Taunt/DD. It works wonders.

sims796 October 1st, 2007 12:22 PM

If he wants to use Return, fine. Even if he knows itd bsd. But don't give such lame reasonings. I will settle for "well, I love Return", over his reasons.

Anti October 1st, 2007 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2951253)
If he wants to use Return, fine. Even if he knows itd bsd. But don't give such lame reasonings. I will settle for "well, I love Return", over his reasons.

So would I. That's why you use noctowl, and it has worked. then again, moves and pokemon are two totally different things. This thread is lol. I'd respect his freakin' opinion if he had some solid proof to back it up, but he doesn't. Let him use return, I can't wait until AB 6-0s him becasue his gengar (does AB have gengar? lol) laughs at gyarados.

It is a fact...return has lol coverage, especially when you have amazing options like ice fang and waterfall. This is just lol...not to be mean, but it is so true. I'm sick, I'm tired, and I'm fed up with these lol excuses.

Sora_8920 October 1st, 2007 12:26 PM

RETURN IS REDAUNDENT! STOP GIVING UNREASONABLE EXPLANATIONS FOR WHY YOU'RE USING IT. -The end.

Sora_8920 October 1st, 2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2951320)
Alright guys...got word back from Jimmyray via PM, and I couldn't help buyt lol at his defense. He says that waterfall and EQ cover the same things return and EQ do, and waterfall has poor coverage.

Well...lol

Waterfall has better coverage than return, a little ironic wouldn't ya say? It also has more power and steels don't laugh at you quite like they used to. And how many times must we say, IF YOU WANT COVERAGE, USE ICE FANG.

This is a pouintless lol topic with somebody giving n00b excuses and I'm so ticked off I'll probably do something stupid, so I'll, let eveyone else handle this.

Nintendo DS: $130

Pokemon diamond and Pokemon pearl: $70 combined

Pikachu doll: $16.99

Listening to a poor soul defend putting return on gyarados: PRICELESS.


Good day to you sir.

I had to get that off my chest. Since you just keep saying our advice is bad pretty much, smarties or another mod can lock this pointless thread.

PS-we remain correct on the matter.

Uh Yeah. Use return, we don't care. Just don't come making a Thread, and refusing everybody's advice. You actually did that this time. And I did it once too, which is why I learned not to do so. Smarties locked it.

usami October 1st, 2007 12:39 PM

Locked upon request of thread creator.


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