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_-DarkCarizard-_ October 20th, 2007 4:51 AM

chomp help
 
I need some Garchomp help!
I think this is it!:
[email protected]
255 evs in speed-130 evs in att-and 129 evs in sp.att
Moves:
dragon rush-or Dragon claw(due to accuracy)
EQ
crunch
?????
I need to know if this sounds right, and I need to know the other move he should know.

Sora_8920 October 20th, 2007 4:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _-DarkCarizard-_ (Post 2994390)
I need some Garchomp help!
I think this is it!:
[email protected]
255 evs in speed-130 evs in att-and 129 evs in sp.att
Moves:
dragon rush-or Dragon claw(due to accuracy)
EQ
crunch
?????
I need to know if this sounds right, and I need to know the other move he should know.

Q&A Thread please: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=97470

Azonic October 20th, 2007 5:04 AM

That Garchomp is wayy off.

[email protected] Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance

Dragon Rush has 75 Accuracy for only 100 power!? Never use Dragon Rush. Draco Plate gives only a minimal boost to Garchomp - and the plate is only boosting the power of one move. Wait for it - no. Also, 255 EVs in a stat is wasting some of its EVs. 255 is not divisible by 4 so therefore are wasting 3 valueable EV points. Make sure each of your EV spreads are divisible by 4. Also, Your Garchomp has Special Attack EVs when there are NO Special Attacks! Use the Garchomp given above

_-DarkCarizard-_ October 20th, 2007 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 2994429)
That Garchomp is wayy off.

[email protected] Orb
Trait: Sand Veil
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance

Dragon Rush has 75 Accuracy for only 100 power!? Never use Dragon Rush. Draco Plate gives only a minimal boost to Garchomp - and the plate is only boosting the power of one move. Wait for it - no. Also, 255 EVs in a stat is wasting some of its EVs. 255 is not divisible by 4 so therefore are wasting 3 valueable EV points. Make sure each of your EV spreads are divisible by 4. Also, Your Garchomp has Special Attack EVs when there are NO Special Attacks! Use the Garchomp given above

Man! I ev trained itand now I find out that I messed up the moveset!!!!!! Roar!!!!!!!

Dark Azelf October 20th, 2007 5:13 AM

Use Penguinpal6's set or one of these


[email protected] Scarf
Lonely/Naughty Nature
252 Att / 240 speed / 16 hp
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Stone Edge / Crunch

Revenge Killer, DO NOT USE outrage early in the match, its for late game sweeps ONLY !! Outspeeds everything thats a threat to it.


OR


[email protected] Orb
Naive/Lonely/Naughty/Hasty Nature
16 ATT / 240 speed / 252 special attack
- Fire Blast
- Draco meteor
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake


Chain Chomp..... Swords dance lures out Physical walls and they eat Life Orb'd Draco meteor or Fire Blast. This is actually very scary because you need to get your prediction spot on when going against this or you will die lol

_-DarkCarizard-_ October 20th, 2007 5:16 AM

Do I have to breed swords dance on him!?

Dark Azelf October 20th, 2007 5:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _-DarkCarizard-_ (Post 2994454)
Do I have to breed swords dance on him!?

Nope, its a Tm from the Game Corner.

_-DarkCarizard-_ October 20th, 2007 5:24 AM

What about sand storm on him? It makes him extremely hard to hit.

Dark Azelf October 20th, 2007 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _-DarkCarizard-_ (Post 2994469)
What about sand storm on him? It makes him extremely hard to hit.

NOOOOOOOOO!!! lol


Its a waste of a moveslot, seriously. If you want to activate its ability the have a tyranitar on the same team as it.

_-DarkCarizard-_ October 20th, 2007 5:30 AM

Ok well back to training! filler filler

Anti October 20th, 2007 7:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 2994398)

Actually the Q&A thread for once isn't needed in this case.

But I'd use the cahinchomp set, it really is the best IMO.

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 9:12 AM

I don't understand why people are so crazy about Chain chomp... it is easily countered. Yea, easily.

situation 1: Heracross used Stone Edge, Garchomp switched in and took the hit. Garchomp uses swords dance while I switch to Swampert. then he uses what... draco meteor? oh yes he did, and I took damage, but not so much, and then KO'd with ice beam. It sure is a surprise, but many pokemon can take a hit and KO him back, coz his base sp.atk isn't that great. You're better off with Scarfchomp outraging later in the game, or even a CBchomp so even increase his power and KO with outrage faster opponents (Starmie..) on the switch.

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 9:12 AM

Ignore - board didn't load.

Dark Azelf October 20th, 2007 9:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995358)
I don't understand why people are so crazy about Chain chomp... it is easily countered. Yea, easily.

situation 1: Heracross used Stone Edge, Garchomp switched in and took the hit. Garchomp uses swords dance while I switch to Swampert. then he uses what... draco meteor? oh yes he did, and I took damage, but not so much, and then KO'd with ice beam. It sure is a surprise, but many pokemon can take a hit and KO him back, coz his base sp.atk isn't that great. You're better off with Scarfchomp outraging later in the game, or even a CBchomp so even increase his power and KO with outrage faster opponents (Starmie..) on the switch.

You dont keep it in on Bulky things, its like Tyraniboah, its for taking out walls. Also Cresselia walls Chain Chomp extremely well.


Yea i personally prefer Scarf Chomp, its fantastic Revenge Killer and for late game sweeps. Just a great choice user in general

Anti October 20th, 2007 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995358)
I don't understand why people are so crazy about Chain chomp... it is easily countered. Yea, easily.

situation 1: Heracross used Stone Edge, Garchomp switched in and took the hit. Garchomp uses swords dance while I switch to Swampert. then he uses what... draco meteor? oh yes he did, and I took damage, but not so much, and then KO'd with ice beam. It sure is a surprise, but many pokemon can take a hit and KO him back, coz his base sp.atk isn't that great. You're better off with Scarfchomp outraging later in the game, or even a CBchomp so even increase his power and KO with outrage faster opponents (Starmie..) on the switch.

Wrong...

Garchomp has SD, EQ, dragon claw, and fire blast. Draco meteor kinda sucks on garchomp...

What idiot leaves garchomp in against swampert? But if they do, lol yache berry lol, and dragon claw is a 2HKO after SD. Fire blast is merely for steels. your logic is totally flawed. Every pokemon has a counter :/

Sora_8920 October 20th, 2007 9:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 2995363)
You dont keep it in on Bulky things, its like Tyraniboah, its for taking out walls. Also Cresselia walls Chain Chomp extremely well.


Yea i personally prefer Scarf Chomp, its fantastic Revenge Killer and for late game sweeps. Just a great choice user in general

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Veil
Lonely/Naughty Nature
- Stone Edge
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw. Me too...

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 9:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2995398)
Wrong...

Garchomp has SD, EQ, dragon claw, and fire blast. Draco meteor kinda sucks on garchomp...

What idiot leaves garchomp in against swampert? But if they do, lol yache berry lol, and dragon claw is a 2HKO after SD. Fire blast is merely for steels. your logic is totally flawed. Every pokemon has a counter :/

Don't assume **** about my logic please, I was refering to the Chain Chomp set that was suggested:

Quote:

[email protected] Orb
Naive/Lonely/Naughty/Hasty Nature
16 ATT / 240 speed / 252 special attack
- Fire Blast
- Draco meteor
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake

Anti October 20th, 2007 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995419)
Don't assume **** about my logic please, I was refering to the Chain Chomp set that was suggested:

Yeah...uh, ~REPORTED~

People make mistakes. This is EXACTLY why I'm leaving. Because people can't stop cursing their brains out and yell at me every time I make a freakin mistake. I'll let Smarties handle this...

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 10:47 AM

How exactly am I "cursing" you? lol

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2995431)
Yeah...uh, ~REPORTED~

People make mistakes. This is EXACTLY why I'm leaving. Because people can't stop cursing their brains out and yell at me every time I make a freakin mistake. I'll let Smarties handle this...

...

I REALLY hope I'm not part of the reason you shall be leaving, but I'll miss you a whole bunch =( I really didn't want you to leave..

sims796 October 20th, 2007 10:53 AM

The four aserisks indicates cursing, and are against the rules. Acting in such a way when he incorrectly called your "mistake was unecessary.

As said, saying that Chain chomp is overrated because of a weakness is moot. If thats the case, Blissey is bad because of its physical weakness.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:02 AM

Nameless, it is. Not this alone, but n00bs who just have to be total idiots, and with all the crap that's been going on...check the link in my sig, it explains it.

Funny thing is, your logic is STILL flawed since EQ is still a 2HKO on swampert after SD lol...yache berry is extremely common...but never mind me...

EDIT: Didn't mean you Nameless! you're awesome...my apologies.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2995763)
Nameless, it is. Not this alone, but n00bs who just have to be total idiots, and with all the crap that's been going on...check the link in my sig, it explains it.

Funny thing is, your logic is STILL flawed since EQ is still a 2HKO on swampert after SD lol...yache berry is extremely common...but never mind me...

Then you have my apologies for all the times I have opposed you

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2995773)
Then you have my apologies for all the times I have opposed you

By "your" I didn't mean you...

But opposing people is just fine. That's what opinions are for...but when n00bs can't learn to respect a freakin opinion...let's take it to PM, eh?

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 11:25 AM

It's funny that you don't notice how "High and Mighty" you sound and still think others are being the complete jerks.

Oh no, what if I feel like typing 4 asterisks in a row.. god forbid.

Garchomp will already be weakened by the attack that he switched in to, so most likely ice beam still has a chance to KO.. and if you know he'll be using a 2nd earthquake, there are enough faster levitators/flying types out there to switch in (and a good team will have one).

I'm just saying there are better ways using him, CB, Scarf, and of course the loathed powdersub set.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:28 AM

@syaoran : **** you lol

better syaoran?

sims796 October 20th, 2007 11:31 AM

Don't be coy. You obviously meant it as a curse. Regardless, we'll let Smarties decide.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995889)
It's funny that you don't notice how "High and Mighty" you sound and still think others are being the complete jerks.

Oh no, what if I feel like typing 4 asterisks in a row.. god forbid.

Garchomp will already be weakened by the attack that he switched in to, so most likely ice beam still has a chance to KO.. and if you know he'll be using a 2nd earthquake, there are enough faster levitators/flying types out there to switch in (and a good team will have one).

I'm just saying there are better ways using him, CB, Scarf, and of course the loathed powdersub set.

It's called PREDICTION. If you see the switch coming, you hit skarm with fire blast on the switch! Hello? It's so easy a caveman could do it!

If you see a swampert coming in, switch your counter in. PREDICTION! That's how you are supposed to battle...while your points are valid, they are only valid if you predict horribly...which most of us don't.

At least I gained some respect before I leave here today...

EDIT: I'd just like to say that I don't act high and mighty. If you'd read my goodbye in my fanclub (which last I checked you didn't have one) you'd know that I KNOW the quality of my posts has declined. some people.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:34 AM

If Swampert switches into Chain Chomp and uses Ice Beam, it is NOT a damn OHKO. It 2HKO's smart one, I've tested it with Richard Steel once

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2995903)
@syaoran : **** you lol

better syaoran?

I love you too ;)

sims, thing is, even if I did, it isn't directed to anyone.

Name, thanks, I am a smart one.. and of course not, Swampie needs 266 sp.atk points for it to KO a min HP/DEF one, but you're forgetting Chompie already took a hittie, and I already explained what is next. :p

sims796 October 20th, 2007 11:36 AM

Regardless, you aren't allowed to swear. Period. Well, a mod will decide.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995945)
I love you too ;)

sims, thing is, even if I did, it isn't directed to anyone.

Wasn't directed toward anyone??? lolololololol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995419)
Don't assume **** about my logic please, I was refering to the Chain Chomp set that was suggested:

Gee, I WONDER who that was aimed at? Besides, you still have no answer to my argument on prediction...prediction allows you to let chainchomp survive...you have to know how to use it :/

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:39 AM

Ice Beam from a Swampert 2HKO's Garchomp because it just HAPPENS to be a very bulky sweeper. Swords Dance Dragon Claw 2HKO's Swampert, tearing it apart quite easily.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 2995977)
Ice Beam from a Swampert 2HKO's Garchomp because it just HAPPENS to be a very bulky sweeper. Swords Dance Dragon Claw 2HKO's Swampert, tearing it apart quite easily.

Thus, my point stands. wow, turn out I was right...maybe you shouldn't be questioning MY logic, since I do research...

With prediction, chainchomp easily takes down a slew of physical walls and many special walls, not to mention sweeper. the trick is using correct prediction.

In fact, you can wipe out skarmbliss REAL quick with it. Maybe why it's a skarmbliss counter lol

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:44 AM

It was all a battle with me and Richard, I sent out Swampert against his Garchomp (who Swords Danced), and attempted to pull in Ice Beam. It stayed at a very VERY low Yellow Zone HP, but since it froze, it gave me the quick way to wipe the Chomp out.

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 12:01 PM

It's directed to a noun, not a human, it's a way of speech, and it's not a flame like Mr.Name did in the top of this page.

Oh I'm so happy for you that you got respect! It's ok, I'm not trying to compete here on a popularity contest coz I know the type of forum I'm in.. lol.

Also, thanks for stating the obvious, you're so good at it.. Predicting is everything on pokemon!! So maybe I should switch to Scarf Heatran with HP ice after I took one earthquake on Swampert, since it's so obvious he'll be using fire blast. /sarcasm

Quote:

EDIT: I'd just like to say that I don't act high and mighty. If you'd read my goodbye in my fanclub (which last I checked you didn't have one) you'd know that I KNOW the quality of my posts has declined. some people.
You have acted rather arrogantly since I've come here, which wasn't very long ago.. at least to me. Quoting me everytime I post a suggestion trying to sound superior is basically what you do.. every single time. But it's ok, I don't take it so seriously like you do (hence your goodbye lol), and no, I'm not really going to read it. XDDDD

Name, I'll repeat it again for you, Garchomp already took a hit, so he WILL die to an ice beam if he doesn't have Yache berry, and the set that was suggested has Life Orb. lol. I also know this from experience since the exact thing happened today, and my Swampie KO'd.

Forest Grovyle October 20th, 2007 12:02 PM

Well I'm glad this thread has gotten back on topic. Syaoran, the use of asterixes clearly implies cursing or swearing, and some members may find this offensive, as has happened here. Please refrain from using censored words or alluding to them - it only causes people to get angry and this can turn into flaming.

If you have an issue with a member, either take it to PM or report their post instead.

Okay, with that over, let's get back on topic ;)

--FG

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 12:02 PM

Alright ALRIGHT drop the damn case already, I don't like where this is going

Anti October 20th, 2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996089)
Oh I'm so happy for you that you got respect! It's ok, I'm not trying to compete here on a popularity contest coz I know the type of forum I'm in.. lol.

Also, thanks for stating the obvious, you're so good at it.. Predicting is everything on pokemon!! So maybe I should switch to Scarf Heatran with HP ice after I took one earthquake on Swampert, since it's so obvious he'll be using fire blast. /sarcasm



You have acted rather arrogantly since I've come here, which wasn't very long ago.. at least to me. Quoting me everytime I post a suggestion trying to sound superior is basically what you do.. every single time. But it's ok, I don't take it so seriously like you do (hence your goodbye lol), and no, I'm not really going to read it. XDDDD

Name, I'll repeat it again for you, Garchomp already took a hit, so he WILL die to an ice beam if he doesn't have Yache berry, and the set that was suggested has Life Orb. lol. I also know this from experience since the exact thing happened today, and my Swampie KO'd.

Garchmop already took a hit? Since when? You said yourself that swampert will SWITCH IN to garchomp...but never mind, You're contredicting yourself.

You're just a clueless n00b...I'm not talking baout pokemon, I'm talking about how to act. Just because I'm honest doesn't mean I'm arrogant.

EDIT: Yes Name, I agree.

See, garchomp, with prediction, will come in without a scratch and set up while swampert switches in. then, EQ, take an IB, and then OHKO it, or if you see a switch, launch draco meteor or fiore blast :/

EDIT 2: To tell you the truth, I know what my character is and nothing anybody says changes that. I'm not gonna let my last day here suck because somebody has to take advantage of me. *Deletes Comments*

For those who read my comments, I stick by them still...

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996206)
Garchmop already took a hit? Since when? You said yourself that swampert will SWITCH IN to garchomp...but never mind, You're contredicting yourself.

You're just a clueless n00b...I'm not talking baout pokemon, I'm talking about how to act. Just because I'm honest doesn't mean I'm arrogant.

EDIT: Yes Name, I agree.

See, garchomp, with prediction, will come in without a scratch and set up while swampert switches in. then, EQ, take an IB, and then OHKO it, or if you see a switch, launch draco meteor or fiore blast :/

EDIT 2: To tell you the truth, I know what my character is and nothing anybody says changes that. I'm not gonna let my last day here suck because somebody has to take advantage of me. *Deletes Comments*

For those who read my comments, I stick by them still...


If you read carefully, you'd know when Chomp took a hit.

Quote:

situation 1: Heracross used Stone Edge, Garchomp switched in and took the hit. Garchomp uses swords dance while I switch to Swampert. then he uses what... draco meteor? oh yes he did, and I took damage, but not so much, and then KO'd with ice beam. It sure is a surprise, but many pokemon can take a hit and KO him back, coz his base sp.atk isn't that great. You're better off with Scarfchomp outraging later in the game, or even a CBchomp so even increase his power and KO with outrage faster opponents (Starmie..) on the switch.
I'm not contradicting myself, actually you are the one doing that. It's nice to see your true form finally, when you're flaming me openly after a mod YOU called for posted here. Great way to leave. Then again, if you're really 8 years old, I'm sorry for upsetting you.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 12:57 PM

OH MY GOD! DROP THE DAMN CASE ALREADY

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996348)
I'm not contradicting myself, actually you are the one doing that. It's nice to see your true form finally, when you're flaming me openly after a mod YOU called for posted here. Great way to leave. Then again, if you're really 8 years old, I'm sorry for upsetting you.

As Name said...DROP IT! If I'm the little kid, why is it you that keeps bringing this up? O...M...G...

My true form? Ask mysticmanyula, Bobpie, Name, sims796, Iceman3k, Itachi, Mr.May16, ...the list goes on...about my true form. I only try to help. why can't you accpet we have different opinions? forget it.

Why would you let garchomp take damage openly. Switch it into blissey's thunder wave...not against swampert's ice beam! If you use prediction and bring Chomp in safely, you can set up and beat swampert.

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:04 PM

Ok, Syaoran. Its obvious you don't know how to use Chain Chomp effectivley. It can't be fail, as you have two members vouching for it.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2996389)
Ok, Syaoran. Its obvious you don't know how to use Chain Chomp effectivley. It can't be fail, as you have two members vouching for it.

Yes. If you are smart enough to not let it take damage on the switch...*coughpredictioncough* then you can set up and beat swampert. We've proven it :/

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 1:13 PM

Aren't you feeling a bit of a hypocrite now? You are the one who reacted after Forest Grovyle posted.

Spoiler:
And btw I'm seriosuly asking if you're 8.


Guys, calm down. I was giving out a situation, and we were discussing the situation. I wasn't discussing how to use it, and you weren't too, so don't judge my pokemon experience if you never battled me. It's rude, but I'll understand if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I have already agreed that prediction is the most important thing in pokemon, and this is what usually wins battles. Yet, I believe the other Garchomp sets are used more effectively. Also, speaking for Swampert's defence, not many people suspect ice beam on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if a sword danced Garchomp stayed on it.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:18 PM

Drop it...........

I am not 8...since when is that relevant?

And didn't I realize my mistake after FG posted? I deleted my comments...guess people can't look past SIMPLE LITTLE MISTAKES these days. Sheesh. Wait, after I delete my comments, you too ignored FG...at least I'll own up and say I should've listened.

I'm so sick of this...

Still, your logic about swampert was indeed flawed. In the example I just posted, it clarly shows why it can beat swampert...unless the user is a n00b or uses a novetly set that is like a special sweeper...but never seen that b4, so...

Other garchonmp sets that are purely physical are more easily walled than skarmory when you have a magneton in :/ Skarm absorbs fire fang like candy.

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996422)
Aren't you feeling a bit of a hypocrite now? You are the one who reacted after Forest Grovyle posted.

Spoiler:
And btw I'm seriosuly asking if you're 8.


Guys, calm down. I was giving out a situation, and we were discussing the situation. I wasn't discussing how to use it, and you weren't too, so don't judge my pokemon experience if you never battled me. It's rude, but I'll understand if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I have already agreed that prediction is the most important thing in pokemon, and this is what usually wins battles. Yet, I believe the other Garchomp sets are used more effectively. Also, speaking for Swampert's defence, not many people suspect ice beam on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if a sword danced Garchomp stayed on it.

I NEVER insulted your battle experience AT ALL. I merely implied that you might not have much Chain chomp experience.

This is the problem. Noticed I never gave any wise cracks. That bolded comment was unappropriate.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2996455)
I NEVER insulted your battle experience AT ALL. I merely implied that you might not have much Chain chomp experience.

This is the problem. Noticed I never gave any wise cracks. That bolded comment was unappropriate.

You are SO right.

But in a poor attempt to stay on topic...

Random pokemon! Come back! Go garchomp!
Blissey used Twave!
It didn't effect garchomp!

Blissey! Come back! Go swampert!
Garchomp used swords dance!

Garchomp used earthquake!
Swampert used ice beam!

If you know swampert isn't gonna switch...
Garchomp used Earthquake! Swampert fainted!

If you predict a switch...
Swampert! come back! Go skarmory!
Garchomp used fire blast!

Ouch...

that about explains it.

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 1:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996441)
Drop it...........

I am not 8...since when is that relevant?

And didn't I realize my mistake after FG posted? I deleted my comments...guess people can't look past SIMPLE LITTLE MISTAKES these days. Sheesh. Wait, after I delete my comments, you too ignored FG...at least I'll own up and say I should've listened.

I'm so sick of this...

Still, your logic about swampert was indeed flawed. In the example I just posted, it clarly shows why it can beat swampert...unless the user is a n00b or uses a novetly set that is like a special sweeper...but never seen that b4, so...

Other garchonmp sets that are purely physical are more easily walled than skarmory when you have a magneton in :/ Skarm absorbs fire fang like candy.

Why do you keep screaming "DROP IT" when you continuously reply to my posts? lol.

I stand by my Swampert, and if you still don't understand the situation we were originally discussing, then it is unfortunate.

Supposedly Garchomp knew he would be KO'd by ice beam, so he switches to Blissey... the battle goes on. A smart user won't be t-waving knowing Garchomp will easily step in and shake it off. Also, if he does earthquakes after a swords dance, the opponent would know it's most likely a ChainChomp.

sims: You were belittling my battle experience when you have no clue if I have or haven't used ChainChomp. Also, I never said it's "fail".

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:36 PM

Thats the thing. A single situation. You must give more examples, in a NON SCARCASTIC TONE, as I was never sarcasic. We diswayed the Swampert scenario.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:36 PM

You scout for ice beam...if you see it's there, use another pokemon to counter it :/ Even all-physical garchomps usually have SD and EQ...so how would the opponent see chainchomp coming solely based on that?

Wait, that one remark was WAY off. Most teams have a groung type on the squad...so thunder wave is ALWAYS a risk. If your opponent is actually good, they'll switch to a counter for garchomp, but how would they know you had one? If they scout for it, then you know there's something about garchomp that scares them, so you'll know they'll predict garchomp switching in...so then you predict the prediction.

EDIT: Sims, great point. there is a situation where every pokemon stands no chance...Chomp is no excpetion. Examples? Skarm vs Magneton, bliss vs. adamant duggy or anything that outstalls it for that matter...so yeah, EVERY pokemon has a counter :/

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 1:39 PM

I'm getting so sick of this i'm getting a headache X(

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Name (Post 2996522)
I'm getting so sick of this i'm getting a headache X(

Name, the problem is that Anti & Syaoran's personal feelings came into the mix...the BOTH of them. Sorry Anti.

However, if Syaoran wants to continue debating on Chain Chomp, thats great.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2996532)
Name, the problem is that Anti & Syaoran's personal feelings came into the mix...the BOTH of them. Sorry Anti.

However, if Syaoran wants to continue debating on Chain Chomp, thats great.

If it weren't the day I was leaving I wouldn't be so bitter about it :/

Chainchomp is countered by very few pokemon...whereas physical or choice item sets are counterd by most anything that can take a physical hit. Chainchomp takes lots of prediction and skill to counter...something like ice fang gyarados does the job well.

Sora_8920 October 20th, 2007 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996543)
If it weren't the day I was leaving I wouldn't be so bitter about it :/

Chainchomp is countered by very few pokemon...whereas physical or choice item sets are counterd by most anything that can take a physical hit. Chainchomp takes lots of prediction and skill to counter...something like ice fang gyarados does the job well.

You're leaving today? When?

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996511)
You scout for ice beam...if you see it's there, use another pokemon to counter it :/ Even all-physical garchomps usually have SD and EQ...so how would the opponent see chainchomp coming solely based on that?

Wait, that one remark was WAY off. Most teams have a groung type on the squad...so thunder wave is ALWAYS a risk. If your opponent is actually good, they'll switch to a counter for garchomp, but how would they know you had one? If they scout for it, then you know there's something about garchomp that scares them, so you'll know they'll predict garchomp switching in...so then you predict the prediction.

EDIT: Sims, great point. there is a situation where every pokemon stands no chance...Chomp is no excpetion. Examples? Skarm vs Magneton, bliss vs. adamant duggy or anything that outstalls it for that matter...so yeah, EVERY pokemon has a counter :/

The damage from his hits wouldn't be as rough as it would've been from all-physical Garchomp, the lack of EV's in attack will show it, and an experienced battler will take notice of that.

The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 2996563)
You're leaving today? When?

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sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996567)
The damage from his hits wouldn't be as rough as it would've been from all-physical Garchomp, the lack of EV's in attack will show it, and an experienced battler will take notice of that.

The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam.

Does that mean we can have a sarcasm-free discussion?

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996567)
The damage from his hits wouldn't be as rough as it would've been from all-physical Garchomp, the lack of EV's in attack will show it, and an experienced battler will take notice of that.

The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam.

Then you expect them to know that it's chainchomp :/ Predicting the prediction...so key.

That last sentence was wored horribly. Could you rephrase that?

EDIT: Yeah, it's about time we can ACTUALLY discuss this...

Itachi, read my sig.................

Sammi October 20th, 2007 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996348)
I'm not contradicting myself, actually you are the one doing that. It's nice to see your true form finally, when you're flaming me openly after a mod YOU called for posted here. Great way to leave. Then again, if you're really 8 years old, I'm sorry for upsetting you.

Take your own advice. Both of you were equally bad in your petty argument.

I can't believe it took half a page just to stop the majority of the off-topic argument. -_-; Keep on the topic of strategies and ONLY that topic or I will hand out warnings. This is the second time we've had to post here, and you're lucky I'm not giving you any now.

I feel like I'm beating the dead horse here since the wost has past... but I'm just letting you know. :)


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