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chomp help
I need some Garchomp help!
I think this is it!: [email protected] 255 evs in speed-130 evs in att-and 129 evs in sp.att Moves: dragon rush-or Dragon claw(due to accuracy) EQ crunch ????? I need to know if this sounds right, and I need to know the other move he should know. |
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That Garchomp is wayy off.
[email protected] Orb Trait: Sand Veil Nature: Naive EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP - Fire Blast / Flamethrower - Dragon Claw / Outrage - Earthquake - Swords Dance Dragon Rush has 75 Accuracy for only 100 power!? Never use Dragon Rush. Draco Plate gives only a minimal boost to Garchomp - and the plate is only boosting the power of one move. Wait for it - no. Also, 255 EVs in a stat is wasting some of its EVs. 255 is not divisible by 4 so therefore are wasting 3 valueable EV points. Make sure each of your EV spreads are divisible by 4. Also, Your Garchomp has Special Attack EVs when there are NO Special Attacks! Use the Garchomp given above |
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Use Penguinpal6's set or one of these
[email protected] Scarf Lonely/Naughty Nature 252 Att / 240 speed / 16 hp - Outrage - Earthquake - Fire Blast - Stone Edge / Crunch Revenge Killer, DO NOT USE outrage early in the match, its for late game sweeps ONLY !! Outspeeds everything thats a threat to it. OR [email protected] Orb Naive/Lonely/Naughty/Hasty Nature 16 ATT / 240 speed / 252 special attack - Fire Blast - Draco meteor - Swords Dance - Earthquake Chain Chomp..... Swords dance lures out Physical walls and they eat Life Orb'd Draco meteor or Fire Blast. This is actually very scary because you need to get your prediction spot on when going against this or you will die lol |
Do I have to breed swords dance on him!?
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What about sand storm on him? It makes him extremely hard to hit.
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Its a waste of a moveslot, seriously. If you want to activate its ability the have a tyranitar on the same team as it. |
Ok well back to training! filler filler
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But I'd use the cahinchomp set, it really is the best IMO. |
I don't understand why people are so crazy about Chain chomp... it is easily countered. Yea, easily.
situation 1: Heracross used Stone Edge, Garchomp switched in and took the hit. Garchomp uses swords dance while I switch to Swampert. then he uses what... draco meteor? oh yes he did, and I took damage, but not so much, and then KO'd with ice beam. It sure is a surprise, but many pokemon can take a hit and KO him back, coz his base sp.atk isn't that great. You're better off with Scarfchomp outraging later in the game, or even a CBchomp so even increase his power and KO with outrage faster opponents (Starmie..) on the switch. |
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Yea i personally prefer Scarf Chomp, its fantastic Revenge Killer and for late game sweeps. Just a great choice user in general |
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Garchomp has SD, EQ, dragon claw, and fire blast. Draco meteor kinda sucks on garchomp... What idiot leaves garchomp in against swampert? But if they do, lol yache berry lol, and dragon claw is a 2HKO after SD. Fire blast is merely for steels. your logic is totally flawed. Every pokemon has a counter :/ |
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Trait: Sand Veil Lonely/Naughty Nature - Stone Edge - Fire Blast - Earthquake - Dragon Claw. Me too... |
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People make mistakes. This is EXACTLY why I'm leaving. Because people can't stop cursing their brains out and yell at me every time I make a freakin mistake. I'll let Smarties handle this... |
How exactly am I "cursing" you? lol
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I REALLY hope I'm not part of the reason you shall be leaving, but I'll miss you a whole bunch =( I really didn't want you to leave.. |
The four aserisks indicates cursing, and are against the rules. Acting in such a way when he incorrectly called your "mistake was unecessary.
As said, saying that Chain chomp is overrated because of a weakness is moot. If thats the case, Blissey is bad because of its physical weakness. |
Nameless, it is. Not this alone, but n00bs who just have to be total idiots, and with all the crap that's been going on...check the link in my sig, it explains it.
Funny thing is, your logic is STILL flawed since EQ is still a 2HKO on swampert after SD lol...yache berry is extremely common...but never mind me... EDIT: Didn't mean you Nameless! you're awesome...my apologies. |
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But opposing people is just fine. That's what opinions are for...but when n00bs can't learn to respect a freakin opinion...let's take it to PM, eh? |
It's funny that you don't notice how "High and Mighty" you sound and still think others are being the complete jerks.
Oh no, what if I feel like typing 4 asterisks in a row.. god forbid. Garchomp will already be weakened by the attack that he switched in to, so most likely ice beam still has a chance to KO.. and if you know he'll be using a 2nd earthquake, there are enough faster levitators/flying types out there to switch in (and a good team will have one). I'm just saying there are better ways using him, CB, Scarf, and of course the loathed powdersub set. |
@syaoran : **** you lol
better syaoran? |
Don't be coy. You obviously meant it as a curse. Regardless, we'll let Smarties decide.
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If you see a swampert coming in, switch your counter in. PREDICTION! That's how you are supposed to battle...while your points are valid, they are only valid if you predict horribly...which most of us don't. At least I gained some respect before I leave here today... EDIT: I'd just like to say that I don't act high and mighty. If you'd read my goodbye in my fanclub (which last I checked you didn't have one) you'd know that I KNOW the quality of my posts has declined. some people. |
If Swampert switches into Chain Chomp and uses Ice Beam, it is NOT a damn OHKO. It 2HKO's smart one, I've tested it with Richard Steel once
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sims, thing is, even if I did, it isn't directed to anyone. Name, thanks, I am a smart one.. and of course not, Swampie needs 266 sp.atk points for it to KO a min HP/DEF one, but you're forgetting Chompie already took a hittie, and I already explained what is next. :p |
Regardless, you aren't allowed to swear. Period. Well, a mod will decide.
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Ice Beam from a Swampert 2HKO's Garchomp because it just HAPPENS to be a very bulky sweeper. Swords Dance Dragon Claw 2HKO's Swampert, tearing it apart quite easily.
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With prediction, chainchomp easily takes down a slew of physical walls and many special walls, not to mention sweeper. the trick is using correct prediction. In fact, you can wipe out skarmbliss REAL quick with it. Maybe why it's a skarmbliss counter lol |
It was all a battle with me and Richard, I sent out Swampert against his Garchomp (who Swords Danced), and attempted to pull in Ice Beam. It stayed at a very VERY low Yellow Zone HP, but since it froze, it gave me the quick way to wipe the Chomp out.
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It's directed to a noun, not a human, it's a way of speech, and it's not a flame like Mr.Name did in the top of this page.
Oh I'm so happy for you that you got respect! It's ok, I'm not trying to compete here on a popularity contest coz I know the type of forum I'm in.. lol. Also, thanks for stating the obvious, you're so good at it.. Predicting is everything on pokemon!! So maybe I should switch to Scarf Heatran with HP ice after I took one earthquake on Swampert, since it's so obvious he'll be using fire blast. /sarcasm Quote:
Name, I'll repeat it again for you, Garchomp already took a hit, so he WILL die to an ice beam if he doesn't have Yache berry, and the set that was suggested has Life Orb. lol. I also know this from experience since the exact thing happened today, and my Swampie KO'd. |
Well I'm glad this thread has gotten back on topic. Syaoran, the use of asterixes clearly implies cursing or swearing, and some members may find this offensive, as has happened here. Please refrain from using censored words or alluding to them - it only causes people to get angry and this can turn into flaming.
If you have an issue with a member, either take it to PM or report their post instead. Okay, with that over, let's get back on topic ;) --FG |
Alright ALRIGHT drop the damn case already, I don't like where this is going
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You're just a clueless n00b...I'm not talking baout pokemon, I'm talking about how to act. Just because I'm honest doesn't mean I'm arrogant. EDIT: Yes Name, I agree. See, garchomp, with prediction, will come in without a scratch and set up while swampert switches in. then, EQ, take an IB, and then OHKO it, or if you see a switch, launch draco meteor or fiore blast :/ EDIT 2: To tell you the truth, I know what my character is and nothing anybody says changes that. I'm not gonna let my last day here suck because somebody has to take advantage of me. *Deletes Comments* For those who read my comments, I stick by them still... |
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If you read carefully, you'd know when Chomp took a hit. Quote:
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OH MY GOD! DROP THE DAMN CASE ALREADY
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My true form? Ask mysticmanyula, Bobpie, Name, sims796, Iceman3k, Itachi, Mr.May16, ...the list goes on...about my true form. I only try to help. why can't you accpet we have different opinions? forget it. Why would you let garchomp take damage openly. Switch it into blissey's thunder wave...not against swampert's ice beam! If you use prediction and bring Chomp in safely, you can set up and beat swampert. |
Ok, Syaoran. Its obvious you don't know how to use Chain Chomp effectivley. It can't be fail, as you have two members vouching for it.
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Aren't you feeling a bit of a hypocrite now? You are the one who reacted after Forest Grovyle posted.
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Guys, calm down. I was giving out a situation, and we were discussing the situation. I wasn't discussing how to use it, and you weren't too, so don't judge my pokemon experience if you never battled me. It's rude, but I'll understand if it makes you feel better about yourself. I have already agreed that prediction is the most important thing in pokemon, and this is what usually wins battles. Yet, I believe the other Garchomp sets are used more effectively. Also, speaking for Swampert's defence, not many people suspect ice beam on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if a sword danced Garchomp stayed on it. |
Drop it...........
I am not 8...since when is that relevant? And didn't I realize my mistake after FG posted? I deleted my comments...guess people can't look past SIMPLE LITTLE MISTAKES these days. Sheesh. Wait, after I delete my comments, you too ignored FG...at least I'll own up and say I should've listened. I'm so sick of this... Still, your logic about swampert was indeed flawed. In the example I just posted, it clarly shows why it can beat swampert...unless the user is a n00b or uses a novetly set that is like a special sweeper...but never seen that b4, so... Other garchonmp sets that are purely physical are more easily walled than skarmory when you have a magneton in :/ Skarm absorbs fire fang like candy. |
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This is the problem. Noticed I never gave any wise cracks. That bolded comment was unappropriate. |
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But in a poor attempt to stay on topic... Random pokemon! Come back! Go garchomp! Blissey used Twave! It didn't effect garchomp! Blissey! Come back! Go swampert! Garchomp used swords dance! Garchomp used earthquake! Swampert used ice beam! If you know swampert isn't gonna switch... Garchomp used Earthquake! Swampert fainted! If you predict a switch... Swampert! come back! Go skarmory! Garchomp used fire blast! Ouch... that about explains it. |
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I stand by my Swampert, and if you still don't understand the situation we were originally discussing, then it is unfortunate. Supposedly Garchomp knew he would be KO'd by ice beam, so he switches to Blissey... the battle goes on. A smart user won't be t-waving knowing Garchomp will easily step in and shake it off. Also, if he does earthquakes after a swords dance, the opponent would know it's most likely a ChainChomp. sims: You were belittling my battle experience when you have no clue if I have or haven't used ChainChomp. Also, I never said it's "fail". |
Thats the thing. A single situation. You must give more examples, in a NON SCARCASTIC TONE, as I was never sarcasic. We diswayed the Swampert scenario.
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You scout for ice beam...if you see it's there, use another pokemon to counter it :/ Even all-physical garchomps usually have SD and EQ...so how would the opponent see chainchomp coming solely based on that?
Wait, that one remark was WAY off. Most teams have a groung type on the squad...so thunder wave is ALWAYS a risk. If your opponent is actually good, they'll switch to a counter for garchomp, but how would they know you had one? If they scout for it, then you know there's something about garchomp that scares them, so you'll know they'll predict garchomp switching in...so then you predict the prediction. EDIT: Sims, great point. there is a situation where every pokemon stands no chance...Chomp is no excpetion. Examples? Skarm vs Magneton, bliss vs. adamant duggy or anything that outstalls it for that matter...so yeah, EVERY pokemon has a counter :/ |
I'm getting so sick of this i'm getting a headache X(
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However, if Syaoran wants to continue debating on Chain Chomp, thats great. |
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Chainchomp is countered by very few pokemon...whereas physical or choice item sets are counterd by most anything that can take a physical hit. Chainchomp takes lots of prediction and skill to counter...something like ice fang gyarados does the job well. |
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The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam. |
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That last sentence was wored horribly. Could you rephrase that? EDIT: Yeah, it's about time we can ACTUALLY discuss this... Itachi, read my sig................. |
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I can't believe it took half a page just to stop the majority of the off-topic argument. -_-; Keep on the topic of strategies and ONLY that topic or I will hand out warnings. This is the second time we've had to post here, and you're lucky I'm not giving you any now. I feel like I'm beating the dead horse here since the wost has past... but I'm just letting you know. :) |
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