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Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:28 AM

@syaoran : **** you lol

better syaoran?

sims796 October 20th, 2007 11:31 AM

Don't be coy. You obviously meant it as a curse. Regardless, we'll let Smarties decide.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995889)
It's funny that you don't notice how "High and Mighty" you sound and still think others are being the complete jerks.

Oh no, what if I feel like typing 4 asterisks in a row.. god forbid.

Garchomp will already be weakened by the attack that he switched in to, so most likely ice beam still has a chance to KO.. and if you know he'll be using a 2nd earthquake, there are enough faster levitators/flying types out there to switch in (and a good team will have one).

I'm just saying there are better ways using him, CB, Scarf, and of course the loathed powdersub set.

It's called PREDICTION. If you see the switch coming, you hit skarm with fire blast on the switch! Hello? It's so easy a caveman could do it!

If you see a swampert coming in, switch your counter in. PREDICTION! That's how you are supposed to battle...while your points are valid, they are only valid if you predict horribly...which most of us don't.

At least I gained some respect before I leave here today...

EDIT: I'd just like to say that I don't act high and mighty. If you'd read my goodbye in my fanclub (which last I checked you didn't have one) you'd know that I KNOW the quality of my posts has declined. some people.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:34 AM

If Swampert switches into Chain Chomp and uses Ice Beam, it is NOT a damn OHKO. It 2HKO's smart one, I've tested it with Richard Steel once

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Name (Post 2995903)
@syaoran : **** you lol

better syaoran?

I love you too ;)

sims, thing is, even if I did, it isn't directed to anyone.

Name, thanks, I am a smart one.. and of course not, Swampie needs 266 sp.atk points for it to KO a min HP/DEF one, but you're forgetting Chompie already took a hittie, and I already explained what is next. :p

sims796 October 20th, 2007 11:36 AM

Regardless, you aren't allowed to swear. Period. Well, a mod will decide.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995945)
I love you too ;)

sims, thing is, even if I did, it isn't directed to anyone.

Wasn't directed toward anyone??? lolololololol

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2995419)
Don't assume **** about my logic please, I was refering to the Chain Chomp set that was suggested:

Gee, I WONDER who that was aimed at? Besides, you still have no answer to my argument on prediction...prediction allows you to let chainchomp survive...you have to know how to use it :/

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:39 AM

Ice Beam from a Swampert 2HKO's Garchomp because it just HAPPENS to be a very bulky sweeper. Swords Dance Dragon Claw 2HKO's Swampert, tearing it apart quite easily.

Anti October 20th, 2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Name (Post 2995977)
Ice Beam from a Swampert 2HKO's Garchomp because it just HAPPENS to be a very bulky sweeper. Swords Dance Dragon Claw 2HKO's Swampert, tearing it apart quite easily.

Thus, my point stands. wow, turn out I was right...maybe you shouldn't be questioning MY logic, since I do research...

With prediction, chainchomp easily takes down a slew of physical walls and many special walls, not to mention sweeper. the trick is using correct prediction.

In fact, you can wipe out skarmbliss REAL quick with it. Maybe why it's a skarmbliss counter lol

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 11:44 AM

It was all a battle with me and Richard, I sent out Swampert against his Garchomp (who Swords Danced), and attempted to pull in Ice Beam. It stayed at a very VERY low Yellow Zone HP, but since it froze, it gave me the quick way to wipe the Chomp out.

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 12:01 PM

It's directed to a noun, not a human, it's a way of speech, and it's not a flame like Mr.Name did in the top of this page.

Oh I'm so happy for you that you got respect! It's ok, I'm not trying to compete here on a popularity contest coz I know the type of forum I'm in.. lol.

Also, thanks for stating the obvious, you're so good at it.. Predicting is everything on pokemon!! So maybe I should switch to Scarf Heatran with HP ice after I took one earthquake on Swampert, since it's so obvious he'll be using fire blast. /sarcasm

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EDIT: I'd just like to say that I don't act high and mighty. If you'd read my goodbye in my fanclub (which last I checked you didn't have one) you'd know that I KNOW the quality of my posts has declined. some people.
You have acted rather arrogantly since I've come here, which wasn't very long ago.. at least to me. Quoting me everytime I post a suggestion trying to sound superior is basically what you do.. every single time. But it's ok, I don't take it so seriously like you do (hence your goodbye lol), and no, I'm not really going to read it. XDDDD

Name, I'll repeat it again for you, Garchomp already took a hit, so he WILL die to an ice beam if he doesn't have Yache berry, and the set that was suggested has Life Orb. lol. I also know this from experience since the exact thing happened today, and my Swampie KO'd.

Forest Grovyle October 20th, 2007 12:02 PM

Well I'm glad this thread has gotten back on topic. Syaoran, the use of asterixes clearly implies cursing or swearing, and some members may find this offensive, as has happened here. Please refrain from using censored words or alluding to them - it only causes people to get angry and this can turn into flaming.

If you have an issue with a member, either take it to PM or report their post instead.

Okay, with that over, let's get back on topic ;)

--FG

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 12:02 PM

Alright ALRIGHT drop the damn case already, I don't like where this is going

Anti October 20th, 2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996089)
Oh I'm so happy for you that you got respect! It's ok, I'm not trying to compete here on a popularity contest coz I know the type of forum I'm in.. lol.

Also, thanks for stating the obvious, you're so good at it.. Predicting is everything on pokemon!! So maybe I should switch to Scarf Heatran with HP ice after I took one earthquake on Swampert, since it's so obvious he'll be using fire blast. /sarcasm



You have acted rather arrogantly since I've come here, which wasn't very long ago.. at least to me. Quoting me everytime I post a suggestion trying to sound superior is basically what you do.. every single time. But it's ok, I don't take it so seriously like you do (hence your goodbye lol), and no, I'm not really going to read it. XDDDD

Name, I'll repeat it again for you, Garchomp already took a hit, so he WILL die to an ice beam if he doesn't have Yache berry, and the set that was suggested has Life Orb. lol. I also know this from experience since the exact thing happened today, and my Swampie KO'd.

Garchmop already took a hit? Since when? You said yourself that swampert will SWITCH IN to garchomp...but never mind, You're contredicting yourself.

You're just a clueless n00b...I'm not talking baout pokemon, I'm talking about how to act. Just because I'm honest doesn't mean I'm arrogant.

EDIT: Yes Name, I agree.

See, garchomp, with prediction, will come in without a scratch and set up while swampert switches in. then, EQ, take an IB, and then OHKO it, or if you see a switch, launch draco meteor or fiore blast :/

EDIT 2: To tell you the truth, I know what my character is and nothing anybody says changes that. I'm not gonna let my last day here suck because somebody has to take advantage of me. *Deletes Comments*

For those who read my comments, I stick by them still...

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996206)
Garchmop already took a hit? Since when? You said yourself that swampert will SWITCH IN to garchomp...but never mind, You're contredicting yourself.

You're just a clueless n00b...I'm not talking baout pokemon, I'm talking about how to act. Just because I'm honest doesn't mean I'm arrogant.

EDIT: Yes Name, I agree.

See, garchomp, with prediction, will come in without a scratch and set up while swampert switches in. then, EQ, take an IB, and then OHKO it, or if you see a switch, launch draco meteor or fiore blast :/

EDIT 2: To tell you the truth, I know what my character is and nothing anybody says changes that. I'm not gonna let my last day here suck because somebody has to take advantage of me. *Deletes Comments*

For those who read my comments, I stick by them still...


If you read carefully, you'd know when Chomp took a hit.

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situation 1: Heracross used Stone Edge, Garchomp switched in and took the hit. Garchomp uses swords dance while I switch to Swampert. then he uses what... draco meteor? oh yes he did, and I took damage, but not so much, and then KO'd with ice beam. It sure is a surprise, but many pokemon can take a hit and KO him back, coz his base sp.atk isn't that great. You're better off with Scarfchomp outraging later in the game, or even a CBchomp so even increase his power and KO with outrage faster opponents (Starmie..) on the switch.
I'm not contradicting myself, actually you are the one doing that. It's nice to see your true form finally, when you're flaming me openly after a mod YOU called for posted here. Great way to leave. Then again, if you're really 8 years old, I'm sorry for upsetting you.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 12:57 PM

OH MY GOD! DROP THE DAMN CASE ALREADY

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996348)
I'm not contradicting myself, actually you are the one doing that. It's nice to see your true form finally, when you're flaming me openly after a mod YOU called for posted here. Great way to leave. Then again, if you're really 8 years old, I'm sorry for upsetting you.

As Name said...DROP IT! If I'm the little kid, why is it you that keeps bringing this up? O...M...G...

My true form? Ask mysticmanyula, Bobpie, Name, sims796, Iceman3k, Itachi, Mr.May16, ...the list goes on...about my true form. I only try to help. why can't you accpet we have different opinions? forget it.

Why would you let garchomp take damage openly. Switch it into blissey's thunder wave...not against swampert's ice beam! If you use prediction and bring Chomp in safely, you can set up and beat swampert.

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:04 PM

Ok, Syaoran. Its obvious you don't know how to use Chain Chomp effectivley. It can't be fail, as you have two members vouching for it.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2996389)
Ok, Syaoran. Its obvious you don't know how to use Chain Chomp effectivley. It can't be fail, as you have two members vouching for it.

Yes. If you are smart enough to not let it take damage on the switch...*coughpredictioncough* then you can set up and beat swampert. We've proven it :/

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 1:13 PM

Aren't you feeling a bit of a hypocrite now? You are the one who reacted after Forest Grovyle posted.

Spoiler:
And btw I'm seriosuly asking if you're 8.


Guys, calm down. I was giving out a situation, and we were discussing the situation. I wasn't discussing how to use it, and you weren't too, so don't judge my pokemon experience if you never battled me. It's rude, but I'll understand if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I have already agreed that prediction is the most important thing in pokemon, and this is what usually wins battles. Yet, I believe the other Garchomp sets are used more effectively. Also, speaking for Swampert's defence, not many people suspect ice beam on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if a sword danced Garchomp stayed on it.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:18 PM

Drop it...........

I am not 8...since when is that relevant?

And didn't I realize my mistake after FG posted? I deleted my comments...guess people can't look past SIMPLE LITTLE MISTAKES these days. Sheesh. Wait, after I delete my comments, you too ignored FG...at least I'll own up and say I should've listened.

I'm so sick of this...

Still, your logic about swampert was indeed flawed. In the example I just posted, it clarly shows why it can beat swampert...unless the user is a n00b or uses a novetly set that is like a special sweeper...but never seen that b4, so...

Other garchonmp sets that are purely physical are more easily walled than skarmory when you have a magneton in :/ Skarm absorbs fire fang like candy.

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996422)
Aren't you feeling a bit of a hypocrite now? You are the one who reacted after Forest Grovyle posted.

Spoiler:
And btw I'm seriosuly asking if you're 8.


Guys, calm down. I was giving out a situation, and we were discussing the situation. I wasn't discussing how to use it, and you weren't too, so don't judge my pokemon experience if you never battled me. It's rude, but I'll understand if it makes you feel better about yourself.

I have already agreed that prediction is the most important thing in pokemon, and this is what usually wins battles. Yet, I believe the other Garchomp sets are used more effectively. Also, speaking for Swampert's defence, not many people suspect ice beam on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if a sword danced Garchomp stayed on it.

I NEVER insulted your battle experience AT ALL. I merely implied that you might not have much Chain chomp experience.

This is the problem. Noticed I never gave any wise cracks. That bolded comment was unappropriate.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2996455)
I NEVER insulted your battle experience AT ALL. I merely implied that you might not have much Chain chomp experience.

This is the problem. Noticed I never gave any wise cracks. That bolded comment was unappropriate.

You are SO right.

But in a poor attempt to stay on topic...

Random pokemon! Come back! Go garchomp!
Blissey used Twave!
It didn't effect garchomp!

Blissey! Come back! Go swampert!
Garchomp used swords dance!

Garchomp used earthquake!
Swampert used ice beam!

If you know swampert isn't gonna switch...
Garchomp used Earthquake! Swampert fainted!

If you predict a switch...
Swampert! come back! Go skarmory!
Garchomp used fire blast!

Ouch...

that about explains it.

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 1:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996441)
Drop it...........

I am not 8...since when is that relevant?

And didn't I realize my mistake after FG posted? I deleted my comments...guess people can't look past SIMPLE LITTLE MISTAKES these days. Sheesh. Wait, after I delete my comments, you too ignored FG...at least I'll own up and say I should've listened.

I'm so sick of this...

Still, your logic about swampert was indeed flawed. In the example I just posted, it clarly shows why it can beat swampert...unless the user is a n00b or uses a novetly set that is like a special sweeper...but never seen that b4, so...

Other garchonmp sets that are purely physical are more easily walled than skarmory when you have a magneton in :/ Skarm absorbs fire fang like candy.

Why do you keep screaming "DROP IT" when you continuously reply to my posts? lol.

I stand by my Swampert, and if you still don't understand the situation we were originally discussing, then it is unfortunate.

Supposedly Garchomp knew he would be KO'd by ice beam, so he switches to Blissey... the battle goes on. A smart user won't be t-waving knowing Garchomp will easily step in and shake it off. Also, if he does earthquakes after a swords dance, the opponent would know it's most likely a ChainChomp.

sims: You were belittling my battle experience when you have no clue if I have or haven't used ChainChomp. Also, I never said it's "fail".

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:36 PM

Thats the thing. A single situation. You must give more examples, in a NON SCARCASTIC TONE, as I was never sarcasic. We diswayed the Swampert scenario.


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