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Anti October 20th, 2007 1:36 PM

You scout for ice beam...if you see it's there, use another pokemon to counter it :/ Even all-physical garchomps usually have SD and EQ...so how would the opponent see chainchomp coming solely based on that?

Wait, that one remark was WAY off. Most teams have a groung type on the squad...so thunder wave is ALWAYS a risk. If your opponent is actually good, they'll switch to a counter for garchomp, but how would they know you had one? If they scout for it, then you know there's something about garchomp that scares them, so you'll know they'll predict garchomp switching in...so then you predict the prediction.

EDIT: Sims, great point. there is a situation where every pokemon stands no chance...Chomp is no excpetion. Examples? Skarm vs Magneton, bliss vs. adamant duggy or anything that outstalls it for that matter...so yeah, EVERY pokemon has a counter :/

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 1:39 PM

I'm getting so sick of this i'm getting a headache X(

sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Name (Post 2996522)
I'm getting so sick of this i'm getting a headache X(

Name, the problem is that Anti & Syaoran's personal feelings came into the mix...the BOTH of them. Sorry Anti.

However, if Syaoran wants to continue debating on Chain Chomp, thats great.

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 2996532)
Name, the problem is that Anti & Syaoran's personal feelings came into the mix...the BOTH of them. Sorry Anti.

However, if Syaoran wants to continue debating on Chain Chomp, thats great.

If it weren't the day I was leaving I wouldn't be so bitter about it :/

Chainchomp is countered by very few pokemon...whereas physical or choice item sets are counterd by most anything that can take a physical hit. Chainchomp takes lots of prediction and skill to counter...something like ice fang gyarados does the job well.

Sora_8920 October 20th, 2007 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996543)
If it weren't the day I was leaving I wouldn't be so bitter about it :/

Chainchomp is countered by very few pokemon...whereas physical or choice item sets are counterd by most anything that can take a physical hit. Chainchomp takes lots of prediction and skill to counter...something like ice fang gyarados does the job well.

You're leaving today? When?

Syaoran October 20th, 2007 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 2996511)
You scout for ice beam...if you see it's there, use another pokemon to counter it :/ Even all-physical garchomps usually have SD and EQ...so how would the opponent see chainchomp coming solely based on that?

Wait, that one remark was WAY off. Most teams have a groung type on the squad...so thunder wave is ALWAYS a risk. If your opponent is actually good, they'll switch to a counter for garchomp, but how would they know you had one? If they scout for it, then you know there's something about garchomp that scares them, so you'll know they'll predict garchomp switching in...so then you predict the prediction.

EDIT: Sims, great point. there is a situation where every pokemon stands no chance...Chomp is no excpetion. Examples? Skarm vs Magneton, bliss vs. adamant duggy or anything that outstalls it for that matter...so yeah, EVERY pokemon has a counter :/

The damage from his hits wouldn't be as rough as it would've been from all-physical Garchomp, the lack of EV's in attack will show it, and an experienced battler will take notice of that.

The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam.

Faceless* October 20th, 2007 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Itachi 2007 (Post 2996563)
You're leaving today? When?

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sims796 October 20th, 2007 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996567)
The damage from his hits wouldn't be as rough as it would've been from all-physical Garchomp, the lack of EV's in attack will show it, and an experienced battler will take notice of that.

The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam.

Does that mean we can have a sarcasm-free discussion?

Anti October 20th, 2007 1:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996567)
The damage from his hits wouldn't be as rough as it would've been from all-physical Garchomp, the lack of EV's in attack will show it, and an experienced battler will take notice of that.

The t-wave remark was assuming you already know the opponent has Garchomp in his team, and Garchomp shouldn't fear coming in Blissey without ice beam.

Then you expect them to know that it's chainchomp :/ Predicting the prediction...so key.

That last sentence was wored horribly. Could you rephrase that?

EDIT: Yeah, it's about time we can ACTUALLY discuss this...

Itachi, read my sig.................

Sammi October 20th, 2007 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 2996348)
I'm not contradicting myself, actually you are the one doing that. It's nice to see your true form finally, when you're flaming me openly after a mod YOU called for posted here. Great way to leave. Then again, if you're really 8 years old, I'm sorry for upsetting you.

Take your own advice. Both of you were equally bad in your petty argument.

I can't believe it took half a page just to stop the majority of the off-topic argument. -_-; Keep on the topic of strategies and ONLY that topic or I will hand out warnings. This is the second time we've had to post here, and you're lucky I'm not giving you any now.

I feel like I'm beating the dead horse here since the wost has past... but I'm just letting you know. :)


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