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DarkFlareon October 20th, 2007 6:03 AM

Your thoughts on Action Replay Pokemon
 
recently i been using action replay to get certain pokemon that u can never get unless you migrate pokemon from the other games...and no i dont do legendarys i HATE LEGENDARYS with a passion a PASSION I SAY!! especially when their hacked on wifi and shiney! X_X.....but lets continue on....i used the modifier to get certain pokemon....however i trained them legit.....no rare candies, no exp boost ....maybe 9999999 money but thats as far as i go XD

but what do u think...the pokemon maybe AR..but they were trained legit....do that count?

TheWishmkr October 20th, 2007 6:12 AM

if a Pokemon is anyway obtained from an external deviced its 'hacked'
though i hate using that term cause some people like me dont have the time or money to go to Japan to get a pokemon

i use AR to See pokemon lol so i can look em up of GTS
so id activate Deoxys see one in the world then save but i wont catch one thats just dumb
but i need Groundon (coz i aint got ruby) so im not sure what to do lol i may just see one in the wild then try an get one of gts

Toadboy October 20th, 2007 7:50 AM

all you have to do is get on the trading forum and say "hey, i want this" and you will usually get a reply. groudon is easy to obtain so should be easy to get a trader. You could also always go to gamestop and get the games you are missing to import them into your game

TheWishmkr October 20th, 2007 8:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Toadboy (Post 2994997)
all you have to do is get on the trading forum and say "hey, i want this" and you will usually get a reply. groudon is easy to obtain so should be easy to get a trader. You could also always go to gamestop and get the games you are missing to import them into your game

true but why should i spend 10£ on a game for one pokemon?

i mean i hacked a mew just for its ability to have all the HMS so i dont have to carry Bidoof for cut,Geodude for rocksmash/slide and a water pokemon for surf that leaves me travelling with 3 pokemon?
so i use Mew and taught mew, Waterfall,surf,fly and something else
so i dont have to carry around 3+ Hmslaves

Pkmn Trainer Alex October 20th, 2007 8:47 AM

The simple answer is using AR to get stuff for yourself is your own choice. Just don't take your ARed goods onto Wi-Fi and try to trade them off to the oblivious. Opinions on whether ARed Pokemon/items are legit differ from person to person, so when dealing with other people, it is best to only involve non-ARed things. But if you just AR for your own private fun, go for it. x_x

ThePlaya October 20th, 2007 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pkmn Trainer Alex (Post 2995263)
The simple answer is using AR to get stuff for yourself is your own choice. Just don't take your ARed goods onto Wi-Fi and try to trade them off to the oblivious. Opinions on whether ARed Pokemon/items are legit differ from person to person, so when dealing with other people, it is best to only involve non-ARed things. But if you just AR for your own private fun, go for it. x_x

i totally agree with you.Like he and i would say, do not bring your ARed pokes to trade and most of the times battle.Some ppl would let you use them but most won't....i would accept ppl to use hacks but none of the pokes to have hacked stats, abilitys, and movesets.

DarkFlareon October 20th, 2007 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 2995820)
i totally agree with you.Like he and i would say, do not bring your ARed pokes to trade and most of the times battle.Some ppl would let you use them but most won't....i would accept ppl to use hacks but none of the pokes to have hacked stats, abilitys, and movesets.

i would never trade any of the AR pokemon cause i know thats wrong however as like i said before the pokemon was trained legit....the abilitys ,movesets, and stats were raised manually.....no edits of that and no illegal moves were performed.......and yes i did use them in wifi battles and got butt kicked all the same as legit.....i only draged them out of the pokedex....starting from lv 2-3...ev trained them legit and had butt kicked legit style....so far people still allow me to use them

Lady Nicole October 20th, 2007 9:44 PM

I think any pokemon caught on AR is hacked and therefore worth nothing.

ToraSushii October 20th, 2007 10:26 PM

You can't be so sure If a shiny Pokemon you got from a trade is legit or hacked.
I mean, it can look real, but might not be. For example, my cousin have a shiny Deoxys, it's level 30, and says it's from Kanto. You don't know If that person used a code for shiny Pokemon, or not.

Angelic Diablo October 21st, 2007 12:27 AM

The only thing I use my AR for is to get alot of vitamins and other items (Focus Sash, Choice Items, Power Items etc)

As far as hacking goes, I make some pokemon shiny, but I never use them in battles, just want them because they look cool

Light_Lugia October 21st, 2007 12:30 AM

Action Replays are fine. I only use them for rare Pokemon from events and stuff (living in Australia with no events isn't easy). I may use them for shinys. I don't have a WiFi (never will) so it's okay in my family to cheat. I don't see anything bad about it anyway.

Toadboy October 21st, 2007 7:10 PM

why will you never have wifi? you obviously have internet access, it's not difficult to have wifi if you have internet.

Omerta October 21st, 2007 7:17 PM

I'm against hacking, because I'm against cheating, it messes with the point of the game (In my opinion). If you want to hack and you can accept the risks, ok, just don't trade hacked pokes (Unless the other person is ok with it) and don't cheat to give your pokemon perfect stats just to own people that are legit.

Shiny Umbreon October 21st, 2007 8:27 PM

Im simple, infinite money won't really affect your game. You can easily get them the regular way. The thing is that when you cheat for Pokémon, it becomes more serious.

I'm against cheating in any way, but I can accept some things like money, items you can buy, etc, but you should never cheat for things you can't have (maybe starters or some items) because that's unfair for the ones who put effort in getting them.

As for your Pokémon, why not breeding them the legal way? Would it really affect you much? You can classify them as you want, but we all know they're hacked, even if they have legal stats and everything. Now, it's much worse if you hack Pokémon you wouldn't normally find.

But the thing is hate the most are 'semi-legit' Pokémon. Really, cheating is cheating, in any way you look at it, so people shouldn't make up excuses for their cheated Pokémon and just call them what they are: CHEATS.

DarkFlareon October 22nd, 2007 4:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Musashi-Kun (Post 3002950)
Good Lord SU, you didn't have to exaggerate like that o_o;

As long as the pokemon is trained in a legitimate manner, the fact that it's "hacked" will be left in the dust.

Normal stats, non-shiny, everything regular except found by using AR. Can't call that hacked now, can we?

Now, hacking legies and unobtainable pokemon...THAT'S a problem

ok when u say unobtainable pokemon what exactly are u refering to.....migrated or event pokemon?.....ill give u a hint on which pokemon i got.......i AR a vulpix then trained and evolved it legit

Xoo October 22nd, 2007 4:26 AM

I have one, so I obviously think it's OK, but that's just me.

Ranger Dude October 22nd, 2007 5:17 AM

Im against hacking, but I don't mind people hacking events such as Naval Rock on GBA or
the Azure Flute on D/P as long as they're caught legit. Although im not sure about using them on wi-fi

DarkFlareon October 22nd, 2007 6:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranger Dude (Post 3003768)
Im against hacking, but I don't mind people hacking events such as Naval Rock on GBA or
the Azure Flute on D/P as long as they're caught legit. Although im not sure about using them on wi-fi

speking of hacking and wifi...yesterday i saw a fire type use a grass type move i was soooo shocked at what i saw...but i beat him anyway in the long run.....the highest win streak i ever had in wifi is 2 wins in a row

Shiny Umbreon October 22nd, 2007 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFlareon (Post 3003926)
speking of hacking and wifi...yesterday i saw a fire type use a grass type move i was soooo shocked at what i saw...but i beat him anyway in the long run.....the highest win streak i ever had in wifi is 2 wins in a row

That doesn't mean it's hacked. It's maybe just a strange Pokémon that learnt Grass Rope or whatever move you saw.

Shiver October 22nd, 2007 8:12 AM

I'm against trading hacks, but I don't mind if people do it to complete stuff ingame, like their Pokedex's and such.

TheWishmkr October 22nd, 2007 8:18 AM

the only hacks i hate are giving pokemon unrealistic moves
like venusaur fire blast, golem fly etc

and people who hack shinies do my ****ing nut in, it took me a hour to find my shiny cubone and 4 hours to get 3 shiny shinxs then hackers get them in like 3 seconds -.-

Lumine October 22nd, 2007 8:26 AM

Nope AR : noobs who cant play legitly (is that even a word? XD), if you use AR to hack your pokes then dont bother challenging the people here

DarkFlareon October 22nd, 2007 8:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumine (Post 3004136)
Nope AR : noobs who cant play legitly (is that even a word? XD), if you use AR to hack your pokes then dont bother challenging the people here

first of all i already played legit..i won diamond maybe 7 times already with my six legit pokemon which i caught without AR....its not like i used action replay the second i started....i only use AR after i won...AND to obtain money and migrated pokemon which u need the other games to actually obtain them....i wasent planning to pay more money to get pokemon that aren't in Pearl or diamond....like i SAID BEFORE....i only caught them...not hacked their stats....Manuall TRAINING!!

so i dont deserve the NOOB sticker on my tail!

and yes i plan to challenge a few around here in the future unless people are sayin ZOMG a hacked pokemon...dont fight him cause his pokemon are AR.....u know what i think.....if your pokemon are really as strong as their claimed to be then if you encounter a real hacker on wifi u can kill them all....mastery at its best!

ONCE MORE IM GONNA SAY ...AR PKMN ....BUT TRAINED LEGIT...... SO-IF-THATS-THE-CASE-......technically im not cheating!

Shiny Umbreon October 22nd, 2007 9:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFlareon (Post 3004145)
first of all i already played legit..i won diamond maybe 7 times already with my six legit pokemon which i caught without AR....its not like i used action replay the second i started....i only use AR after i won...AND to obtain money and migrated pokemon which u need the other games to actually obtain them....i wasent planning to pay more money to get pokemon that aren't in Pearl or diamond....like i SAID BEFORE....i only caught them...not hacked their stats....Manuall TRAINING!!

so i dont deserve the NOOB sticker on my tail!

and yes i plan to challenge a few around here in the future unless people are sayin ZOMG a hacked pokemon...dont fight him cause his pokemon are AR.....u know what i think.....if your pokemon are really as strong as their claimed to be then if you encounter a real hacker on wifi u can kill them all....mastery at its best!

ONCE MORE IM GONNA SAY ...AR PKMN ....BUT TRAINED LEGIT...... SO-IF-THATS-THE-CASE-......technically im not cheating!

OK. We obviously can't compare you to the ones who hack a shiny Pokémon with maxed IVs and EVs in all stats, but at least admit you are cheating because you really are. Don't say "I don't cheat, I just hack my Pokémon but I train them the legal way."

Pkmn Trainer Alex October 22nd, 2007 9:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkFlareon (Post 3004145)
first of all i already played legit..i won diamond maybe 7 times already with my six legit pokemon which i caught without AR....its not like i used action replay the second i started....i only use AR after i won...AND to obtain money and migrated pokemon which u need the other games to actually obtain them....i wasent planning to pay more money to get pokemon that aren't in Pearl or diamond....like i SAID BEFORE....i only caught them...not hacked their stats....Manuall TRAINING!!

so i dont deserve the NOOB sticker on my tail!

and yes i plan to challenge a few around here in the future unless people are sayin ZOMG a hacked pokemon...dont fight him cause his pokemon are AR.....u know what i think.....if your pokemon are really as strong as their claimed to be then if you encounter a real hacker on wifi u can kill them all....mastery at its best!

ONCE MORE IM GONNA SAY ...AR PKMN ....BUT TRAINED LEGIT...... SO-IF-THATS-THE-CASE-......technically im not cheating!

If you play the game any way other than the way it was meant to be played, that is technically cheating. How bad the cheating is and how accepted it is depends largely on who is judging you. Some people won't care if you hack to catch otherwise unobtainable Pokemon, while others will.

But from a technical view, since the game developers had intended for you to get the otherwise unobtainable through the means they have themselves provided (multiple games and trading), using AR to get the Kanto starters, for example, is an alternate, but non-endorsed (by the developers) way of getting them without buying FRLG or finding other people who have them. Hence the cheating label.

I say, the less you use AR, the less likely you'll get labeled a cheater in the first place. You can cheat all you want, and no one will stop you. You'll just have to be aware that there are people who refuse to deal with anyone who even owns an AR, or at least is known to use one.

DarkFlareon October 22nd, 2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pkmn Trainer Alex (Post 3004240)
If you play the game any way other than the way it was meant to be played, that is technically cheating. How bad the cheating is and how accepted it is depends largely on who is judging you. Some people won't care if you hack to catch otherwise unobtainable Pokemon, while others will.

But from a technical view, since the game developers had intended for you to get the otherwise unobtainable through the means they have themselves provided (multiple games and trading), using AR to get the Kanto starters, for example, is an alternate, but non-endorsed (by the developers) way of getting them without buying FRLG or finding other people who have them. Hence the cheating label.

I say, the less you use AR, the less likely you'll get labeled a cheater in the first place. You can cheat all you want, and no one will stop you. You'll just have to be aware that there are people who refuse to deal with anyone who even owns an AR, or at least is known to use one.

true true... but hey.. i got my reasons....some people will accept...some people will not.....circle of life.

Shiraishi October 22nd, 2007 11:56 AM

I will only use an AR for getting perfectly LEGAL but hard to get movesets(Seismic toss on Blissey)and for TMs/Money/Exp hacks for link battles when I dont have access to wi-fi.


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