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Where did MissingNO. get its awful reputation?
In all my days of messing with the R/B MissingNO's, I've never had a problem with them (other than the usual Pokemon menu flashing/blank sprite, the garbled hall of fame, and the backwards sprites). They all seem pretty harmless. Is it just something some second grader invented back when Pokemon was in its prime just to sound cool, or is there actually some backing to the fact that MissingNO. can corrupt your save file? Because I haven't seen it yet.
Also, I'm not including glitch trainers here. I know those can backfire pretty badly. I'm exclusively referring to the MissingNO. and 'M' Pokemon and the Rhydons/Kangaskhans they "evolve" into, and nothing else. |
Well, it does corrupt your Hall of Fame- and its caused by a glitch. Probably since it is very useful if correctly used (sixth item x 126 ^^), Nintendo decided to scare away the people. And then AR and Gameshark found similar but more dangerous gliches which, some of them, could mess up the game realy badly, and they were confunded with the good Missingno.
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MissingNO's have been claimed to corrupt people's save files. I myself have never saved the game after capturing one, so...
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You don't save your game after catching it, and you should be fine. What's really bad is when you catch an M and send it to the PC...
Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun... The box crashes and you can't get into any of that box. You need to remove M with Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 to get rid of it. This has been known to much more occasionally happen with MissingNo. M is far more dangerous in my opinion. |
Missingo is annoying in that it ruins your Hall of Fame.
Not sure if this is an isolated case but when I used the East shore of the Seaform Islands to get missingo, the current box of Pokemon was erased. Shame really. |
To add to Improfane, you get varied results, depending on what you do with it. I once messed with Missingno by repeatedly duplicating my sixth item (i.e. not using any of the item in my sixth slot but just failing to move it when I encountered multiple Missingno after that), and for some reason, that erased half of my items list and wouldn't let me go past eight slots. That only happened on one game, however. On others, I've deposited 'M and wound up crashing my game, others report messed up save files, and a lot of other people just report the messed up Hall of Fame. Because, even if you do the trick perfectly (or, rather, even if you think you did it perfectly), you might get negative results out of nowhere, the code got a bit of infamy.
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Perhaps I could use that item list erasing to my advantage.
I have my fair share of 128 bicycles, town maps, super rods and itemfinders. Gah! |
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Anyways, for the record, I've never done anything wrong and never gotten any negative results, but my look on it is that maybe when someone does it in a different way, some chunk of the save data or game data gets overwritten or misplaced in some way it shouldn't by MissingNO. This would possibly explain the Hall of Flame having garbled graphics and weird Pokemon like Mew and MissingNO. Also, to the people that don't save after catching MissingNO., even if you release him first, SAVE THE GAME. It's been proven that when you encounter MissingNO. your game saves, but it's nothing more than a garbage save. I can't think anything good comes out of not saving over that, but I've never tried. |
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Rhydons and Kangaskhans are only found in Safari Zone yes?
So Missingno must be a glitch of a Pokemon that was to be a Safari Zone Pokemon.. Why the hell he's a flying type, and evolves into Rhydon/Kangaskhan gets me.. What also gets me is why you find him in Cinnibar Island.. He's a prick to battle when you're low level, I know that much. I've never had the guts to catch him.. I don't want to screw the game over too much.. Although he's such a mystery, he's SO GOOD for that item duplication reason. Makes life so much more easier. |
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Wow. You went to quite an effort there, buddy. But don't you fly directly from Viridian city, and the old man, to cinnabar? Or has my memory failed due to not playing the game in over 6 years? |
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1. There's no wild Pokemon in Viridian City, so the game can't retrieve Pokemon data from the last place you've encountered a wild Pokemon battle. 2. Because of the nature of the demo battle, rather than storing the information for that particular battle in a normal place, it does so in the same spaces that store both your name and a wild Pokemon encounter so that when you watch the demo battle, the old man's name appears instead of your own. Unfortunately, this also means that the next encounter recalls your name instead of regular Pokemon data because that single strip along Cinnabar Island's east coast doesn't have wild Pokemon data programmed into it in order to overwrite what the last encounter had done. So, because of that, the game recalls the hex for each letter to your name to assign to a level and species of Pokemon, hence why you tend to get really messed up stuff, like level 150 Haunter if you name yourself MATT (T being the third letter, whose hex corresponds to the hex for Haunter). I hope that made sense. It's a bit hard to explain without spending hours trying to get the numbers for examples. ^_^; |
Oh my lord.
I will give it to you, you know a freaking DAMN LOT about Missingno/how it operates.. Props. Thanks for the lesson <3 |
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The GlitchDex and TRsRockin are very good. Probably the best place to get glitch information on the net! :p Quote:
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Okay, enough with the quoting. xD
I guess you're right about where to find the info though, I guess all I really knew/cared about was that he was a weird glitch that used flying attacks and made my items go up ^_^ But props to people who study him really hard. It's quite an interesting glitch. |
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"MissingNo does not make your game save when you encounter it." - From this page Also, lemme quote what they say about 'M: "'M seems to cause much more damage to your records and Hall of Fame than MissingNo. Even encountering one will make your game save (you can see this happening while playing on Stadium 1 or 2)." - From here Also, this is from the Glitch Dex I've found. (I realize it's not the Glitch Dex, but it's close enough.) "However, your game automatically saves when you encounter 'M, unlike MissingNo," - Here So, I'm thinking you might've confused 'M for Missingno here unless they did. Quote:
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Also, thanks to Monzae, but you'll probably find better information in the Missingno sticky or on other websites. I just gave you what I could remember and a sort of messy explanation about it. ^_^; |
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Sorry for off topic. |
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But then, you have to think, why would it save on stadium but not RBY itself? I assume Stadium does nothing more than run the RBY game on the TV, similar to an Emulator. Does it work differently? |
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(Edit: I've thought about it, and now I get what you mean. I'm still thinking the fact that you're doing it through Stadium might have something to do with it, as it doesn't happen within the games by themselves. So, if it does happen when you do things through Stadium -- although see my note below -- it might have something to do with the medium.) Other than that, I really can't find any information stating that Missingno automatically saves on RBY specifically. Just that other, Missingno-like glitches do. Oddly enough, I can't find information that it does it on Stadium either, although again, I've found information that states that 'M does it (hence the quotes I've obtained above). |
great posts above
Sorry Monzae for the following quotations ;) While they're not nested it makes my post large! Jax Malcolm certainly knows her stuff!
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I haven't checked but if you looked in the memory for Pokemon ID 0 there should be no information there, hopefully only 0s/nulls. The only thing set should be its name: Missingno. The reason why the graphics are so mucked up is that you have to remember that:
I think the reason why you get consistent Missingno sprites is that the overwritten data from the Old Man is the same every time. What Jax says makes sense: your name is put somewhere else for safe keeping while the game uses OLD MAN. When you force the game to read something that it isn't supposed to be reading, you'll get strange results. Explains why you get images in the hall of fame. Name data and the wild pokemon overlap at certain name character positions. * I'm ignoring headers and the like, you cannot name a .PNG file a .WAV and expect it to play for example. On gameboys you don't have strict or the requirement of file headers. Quote:
This enables people to manipulate them! Yellow probably fixes the bug by simply making shores give wild Pokemon, since this will fix the bug. What a thought stimulating post! |
Back in the day everyone who lived near me used the glitch where you could get loads of items, and no one had a corrupted game because of it.
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It could crash your game -_-;
I will never know why people get so emotionally involved in Pokemon to make a thread like this... |
I am thinking that Nintendo spread the rumors that it erases your game. When I tell people I am a gritch hunter, many freak out and warn me about MissingNo. NEWFLASH!!! MissngNo. and 'M do not do any lasting damage do your game. Any and all effects can be removed in many ways. It really pisses me off.
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