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Lucas-Duo October 21st, 2007 5:14 PM

Arceus Question
 
Can an english arceus be semi legit?

Lucas-Duo October 21st, 2007 5:16 PM

well do you know fillerfiller

EvanMiesterX October 21st, 2007 5:17 PM

no arceus is legit. theyre all hacked

Alecrishna October 21st, 2007 5:19 PM

i think they can be semi legit if u just hack the event

luifer39 October 21st, 2007 5:20 PM

Well If U think that hack the event but no the pokemon, Yes can be semi-legit

Myoko-chan October 21st, 2007 5:21 PM

It can be indeed semi-legit, but they aren't allowed either way so don't try trading Arceus here.

Extric October 21st, 2007 5:21 PM

All english Arceus' are hacked because there is no way to obtain the Pokemon without an AR (atleast I don't think the E4 glitch aloud players to obtain Arceus).

Dannx October 21st, 2007 5:23 PM

you couldnt get arceus in japan until they launched the event the u could trade to the english so yes u could get a legit one

Lucas-Duo October 21st, 2007 5:27 PM

thanks guys you've been a big help. Was just asking cos my bro just got one from some guy on gamefaqs forum and thought it was legit lol.

Phoenix25 October 21st, 2007 5:43 PM

It is possible to have a legit Arceus. The only thing that isn't legit would be the Azure Flute which you would have to hack in order to get. The pokemon itself isn't affected by the hacking of the item, meaning that if you were to hack to get the Azure Flute, the Arceus that you would face in the Hall of Origin would have completely normal stats and would be just like the Arceus you would face when the event is released to the public and the Azure Flute is obtainable legally. Arceus itself isn't affected by the hack, just the item. It's total garbage to say that the pokemon isn't legit just because the item needed to get it was hacked. May I remind those of you that say that about the fact that the event pokemon are coded for in the game as well as the items necessary to get them, and that they are two separate codings. The only coding that any cheat messes with when getting the item is the coding for the item, and does not mess with the coding for the actual pokemon at all, unless someone specifically rewrites or adds coding to the cheat for the event items that specifically alters the pokemon that will be encountered, which I've heard is extremely hard to do, and not likely for anyone to go through that trouble or take the risk of writing the code wrong and have it permanantly screw up their game.

Toadboy October 21st, 2007 6:55 PM

While the event is coded into the game, unless nintendo releases the event to the public, the event can only be hacked. We faced that with Emerald and the Old Sea Map event.... coded into the game but never released, so any mew from emerald is considered hacked. If nintendo were to find it on a gamepack that was entered into a tourny, they could deem the entire game pack hacked and disqualify the owner. Is it fair that the event wasn't released? no not really, but such is life. On these forums that is the way it is and you will have to live with it when it pertains to pokemon here.

jm417 October 21st, 2007 7:25 PM

i agree with toadboy. until nintendo releases the means to get it without cheating, they are all hacked. it is likely to be some time before either shaymin or arceus is released. and when they do release them, it will be in japan first and possibly only in japan.

Nacon October 21st, 2007 10:18 PM

and that'd be so ridiculious... the exclusivity and all... it turns people into shark junkies.

Arch_2008 October 21st, 2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix25 (Post 3002459)
It is possible to have a legit Arceus. The only thing that isn't legit would be the Azure Flute which you would have to hack in order to get. The pokemon itself isn't affected by the hacking of the item, meaning that if you were to hack to get the Azure Flute, the Arceus that you would face in the Hall of Origin would have completely normal stats and would be just like the Arceus you would face when the event is released to the public and the Azure Flute is obtainable legally. Arceus itself isn't affected by the hack, just the item. It's total garbage to say that the pokemon isn't legit just because the item needed to get it was hacked. May I remind those of you that say that about the fact that the event pokemon are coded for in the game as well as the items necessary to get them, and that they are two separate codings. The only coding that any cheat messes with when getting the item is the coding for the item, and does not mess with the coding for the actual pokemon at all, unless someone specifically rewrites or adds coding to the cheat for the event items that specifically alters the pokemon that will be encountered, which I've heard is extremely hard to do, and not likely for anyone to go through that trouble or take the risk of writing the code wrong and have it permanantly screw up their game.

that makes the pokemon non-legit, i don't know why people don't get it, hacking any item or part of the pokemon makes it a hacked pokemon

Goldenhammerhead October 21st, 2007 11:12 PM

Was that tweaking glitch confirmed yet because with it reports of legit arceus obtained by entering a glitchy vortex showed up.

Shiny Umbreon October 22nd, 2007 7:54 AM

In simple: If you use AR to make an Arceus, it's hacked. If you hack the Azure Flute, people call it semi-legit, but it's cheated anyway, even if it wasn't the Pokémon itself. People also say that the tweaking glitch can get you to the Hall of Origin, but why shouldn't it be considered cheated too? Really, you guys who think that Arceus is legit when the hacking doesn't involve the Pokémon itself are really wrong.

By the way, wrong forum. This should be in the Diamond and Pearl forum.
-MOVED-

Nacon October 22nd, 2007 8:23 PM

in simpler terms...... if its HACKED its HACKED

MegaMushroom07 October 23rd, 2007 1:42 PM

I don't think hacking the Azure Flute is wrong, especialy if you missed the event.

My friend did mystery gift with someone who hacked it, and got a legit one. Then he MG'd me, and I have a Arceus! Which, in my books, is legit.

Nacon October 23rd, 2007 1:44 PM

eh... it's all about the p's and q's on that one...

p -> q = R

airconditioning October 23rd, 2007 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaMushroom07 (Post 3008345)
I don't think hacking the Azure Flute is wrong, especialy if you missed the event.

My friend did mystery gift with someone who hacked it, and got a legit one. Then he MG'd me, and I have a Arceus! Which, in my books, is legit.

It's impossible to have missed the event, because the event hasn't happened yet. And while it may be legit in your book, it's hacked in everyone else's.

MegaMushroom07 October 23rd, 2007 1:46 PM

If you missed the event after it has happened. That part is self-explanatory.

Nacon October 23rd, 2007 1:50 PM

if you missed the event, you missed the event... that's what it comes down to.

Like the TRU manaphy, the NWS Manaphy and the Movie Darkrai.

MegaMushroom07 October 23rd, 2007 1:52 PM

I have a Movie Darkrai, but I didn't go to the event.

Toadboy October 23rd, 2007 1:54 PM

you hope you have a legit movie darkrai anyway ;)

MegaMushroom07 October 23rd, 2007 1:57 PM

I know I do. I'll even show it you, if you want. But, if you don't want me to waste your time, i'll read it's info...

Level 50

Pokemon Movie 07 (Red Text)

Apparentyl had a fateful encounter at level 50

Roar of time, Special Rend, Nightmare, Hypnosis.

Effort Ribbon:A Commemorative Ribbon obtained at a mystery location.


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