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Non-Legend October 24th, 2007 5:37 PM

suggestions for team
 
I like to use pokemon that i feel like have become my favorites they all aren't at lvl 100 yet i don't go as fast as other people. Anyway I'm not entirely sure if the pokemon on my current team has moves to use strategy at the moment but planning on some but here's my team.
Weavile
Return (strong Bond and high attack stat ooooooh scary)
Ice Beam
Dig
Night Slash

Crobat
Air Slash
Wing Attack
Fly
Cross Poison

Marowak
Bonemerang
Endeavor (using Focus Band leaves 1 hp and then use endeavor on opponent)
Double-Edge (Has Rock Head ability so neutralize recoil)
Fire Blast (Good against two of three weaknesses Ice and Grass)

Lucario
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse (Just use for power and in case of fighting against Dragons)
Shadow Ball (Helps with Psychics and Ghosts)
Extremespeed

Floatzel
Aqua Jet
Crunch
Blizzard (for any annoying grass types)
Surf

Leafeon (still training to see if it has any other moves before using tm's and no strategies planned yet)
Magical Leaf
Razor Leaf
Synthesis
Quick Attack

Arcknight316 October 24th, 2007 6:04 PM

uh...weavile has LOW BOND (35)

lucario:keep it special. no extremespeed. all special, or all physical. ne way, gtg

magical leaf? nonono. physical w/ leafeon. now i rly gtg

Non-Legend October 24th, 2007 6:15 PM

Weavile has low Bond? IDk what you're talking about according to the footprint master and that girl in the fan club i have the highest rating or response for the game. Weavile specializes in its attack stat Return is at full strength from bond so Full bond + high stats should deal some damage but I'm not looking for an arguement. I also kind of know about how Leafeon has poor sp. atk stat but I don't go around trying to get the *perfect* evee to evolve. but any other suggestions you can suggest what attacks i should replace but not willing to replace all of their attacks. Also it shouldn't be all that hard to get a relationship with a pokemon especially when you get the message and spa available.

Iceman3k October 24th, 2007 6:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non-Legend (Post 3012621)
I like to use pokemon that i feel like have become my favorites they all aren't at lvl 100 yet i don't go as fast as other people. Anyway I'm not entirely sure if the pokemon on my current team has moves to use strategy at the moment but planning on some but here's my team.
You. Need. EVs AND NATURES.
Post them.


Weavile
Brick Break
Ice Punch
Aerial Ace
Night Slash
1. Special Attacks suck on Weavile
2. 2-turn attacks (especially the ones that make Earthquake do 2x damage) are also horrible.


Crobat
Substitute
Aerial Ace
Hypnosis
Cross Poison
Do not use 2, or should I say, 3 of the same type of attack =/

Marowak
Bonemerang
Stone Edge
Swords Dance
Fire Blast
I'm leaving Fire Blast due to lack of better fillers. And Marowak should ALWAYS be holding Thick Club.

Lucario
Hidden Power (Fire)
Dragon Pulse
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Needs more mixed Lucario okay

Floatzel
Aqua Jet
Crunch
Ice Fang
Waterfall
Special Attacks suck on Floatzel too

Leafeon (still training to see if it has any other moves before using tm's and no strategies planned yet)
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Synthesis
Baton Pass
Hey, did I mention Sp. Attacks suck on Leafeon too?

This is one horrible of a team. You need to learn more about Competitive Battling.

Angelic Diablo October 24th, 2007 6:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non-Legend (Post 3012621)
I like to use pokemon that i feel like have become my favorites they all aren't at lvl 100 yet i don't go as fast as other people. Anyway I'm not entirely sure if the pokemon on my current team has moves to use strategy at the moment but planning on some but here's my team.

Weavile@Focus Sash
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break
-Swords Dance

-Night Slash

Crobat@Black Sludge
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP
-Aerial Ace
-Hypnosis
-Toxic

-Cross Poison

Don't know that much on Crobat, umm Double Status ftw!

Marowak@Thick Club
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Focus Punch
-Swords Dance


Lucario@Life Orb
Naive Nature
EVs: 252 Spd, 152 Atk, 106 Sp Atk
Close Combat

Dragon Pulse
Dark Pulse
Extremespeed

Floatzel[b]@Choice Band/Scarf
Adament Nature (w/ Scarf) Jolly Nature (w/ Band)
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Aqua Jet
Crunch
Ice Fang
Waterfall


Leafeon@Leftovers
Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Leaf Blade
X Scissor
Baton Pass
Swords Dance

Changes in bold, and a team of all sweepers fails, a team of all Physical sweepers fail even more

EDIT: Damn Iceman beat me, oh well

Non-Legend October 24th, 2007 6:26 PM

Well I'd be able to learn more if i got the chance to actually get involved in battles with actual ppl more. I guess I overthink my move selections too much and this might be the result. If I don't feel like Leafeon will fit I might go back to what I had before or the original grass typ i had. Before Leafeon I had Parasect we all know how bad against fire it is and flying but knows giga drain, spore, X-scissor, Aromatherapy. Or my Roserade that's my highest grass but for some odd reason I don't like to be too regular or common.

Arcknight316 October 24th, 2007 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non-Legend (Post 3012621)
I like to use pokemon that i feel like have become my favorites they all aren't at lvl 100 yet i don't go as fast as other people. Anyway I'm not entirely sure if the pokemon on my current team has moves to use strategy at the moment but planning on some but here's my team.
Weavile
Return (strong Bond and high attack stat ooooooh scary)
Ice Beam
Dig
Night Slash

Fine, it has high bond, but its BASE bond is low. Also, Special Moves? Are you kidding me? Go with Ice Punch or at least Ice Shard. And Dig? Nononono. Think of something else (X-Scissor or Poison Jab works).

Crobat
Air Slash
Wing Attack
Fly
Cross Poison

Fly? No. Never ever use Fly. BTW, you have 3 Flying moves, so....THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE.

Marowak
Bonemerang
Endeavor (using Focus Band leaves 1 hp and then use endeavor on opponent)
Double-Edge (Has Rock Head ability so neutralize recoil)
Fire Blast (Good against two of three weaknesses Ice and Grass)

Fire Punch > Fire Blast. Earthquake > Bonemerang.

Lucario
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse (Just use for power and in case of fighting against Dragons)
Shadow Ball (Helps with Psychics and Ghosts)
Extremespeed

A Special Attack over Extremespeed.

Floatzel
Aqua Jet
Crunch
Blizzard (for any annoying grass types)
Surf

Blizzard? No. If Floatzel can learn Ice Fang (I'm not sure), then go with that.

Leafeon (still training to see if it has any other moves before using tm's and no strategies planned yet)
Magical Leaf
Razor Leaf
Synthesis
Quick Attack

Magical Leaf? A Special Attack? On Leafeon? No. Use Leaf Blade. BTW, you have 2 Grass, wait, no 3 Grass Moves. You can keep Synthesis and Leaf Blade, but that's it.

OK, you have no walls. Just Sweepers. And out of these Sweepers, you have 1 Special. Wow. I don't mean any offense, but...man, I thought MY team was bad.

Non-Legend October 30th, 2007 4:48 PM

well if you all think it's horrible i'll change my team a bit and do double battles. I'm taking out Leafeon and I'll take out Crobat once i get other pokemon I want to replace with trained. And I would also like to say I am not sure of the terms "Sweepers" and "Walls" I don't know those kind of refrences.

BrainDamage October 30th, 2007 6:00 PM

I miss when people actually did research before posting a RMT. :/

airconditioning October 30th, 2007 6:10 PM

Meh, all I can do is repeat what others have already said so eloquently. A team of all sweepers will be destroyed with ease, especially a team that isn't EV trained. Also, you shouldn't bother with Return unless it's on a Normal-type Pokemon (for STAB).

While I'm here, I'll explain a few of the terminology around here.

Sweeper: A fast Pokemon that deals heavy damage, but has poor defenses. High speed, high Attack, low defense.

Tank: A Pokemon that can take a few hits, and dish out damage as well. Decent Attack, good defenses, poor speed.

Wall: A Pokemon designed to take hits, and essentially to stop an opponent from doing anything altogether. HIgh HP, High Defense/ Sp. Defense, average Attack, poor Speed.

STAB: Same Type Attack Bonus. Refers to the 1.5x boost given to moves when used by a Pokemon of the same type (i.e. Lucario using Close Combat, Empoleon using Surf, Weavile using Ice Punch...)

Iceman3k October 30th, 2007 9:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naos (Post 3033792)
I miss when people actually did research before posting a RMT. :/

Yeah, so do I. Personally, I think that "24 hour to post EVs and Natures" rule needs to be established more and I also think it should be lowered to 12 hours =/

Quote:

Before Leafeon I had Parasect we all know how bad against fire it is and flying but knows giga drain, spore, X-scissor, Aromatherapy.
Parasect it HORRIBLE, and I can think of a ton of reasons besides the fact that it has a 4x Fire AND a 4x Flying Weak.

- Horrible Speed
- Slightly Below Average Attack
- Horrible Typing
- The fact that it doesn't get a Physical Grass Attack (there is Bullet Seed, but who on earth uses that lol)

Parasect only functions properly on Trick Room Teams, and its only purpose would be to abuse Spore since it's useless at everything else.

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Or my Roserade that's my highest grass but for some odd reason I don't like to be too regular or common.
If you don't want an overused Grass Attacker, then I think this may help you:

Jumpluff @ Leftovers / Wide Lens
Ability: Chlorophyll / Leaf Guard (doesn't really matter)
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed
- U-Turn
- Substitute
This is basically the only useful Unused Grass Type I can think of. But he makes an excellent Sleeper with such great speed. Put them to sleep, then Leech Seed them. U-Turn to deal damage before switching out. Wide Lens is optional if you want Sleep Powder and Leech Seed to have better accuracy.

If you want to deploy an offensive command, Victreebel and Sceptile also make decent attackers.


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