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Mr.Roboto October 26th, 2007 6:32 PM

My team
 
Hello, i reckon my team is pretty good but im told it needs improving. so can anyone help me out? my team is:

Charizard Lvl 100
Dragon Pulse, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, blast burn

Mewtwo Lvl 100
Shadow Ball, Psychic, Hyper Beam, Aura Sphere

Rayquaza Lvl 100
Fly, Thunder, Dragon Pulse, draco meteor

Dragonite Lvl 100
Ice Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rush, Draco Meteor

Dialga Lvl 100
Iron Tail, Flamethrower, Dragon Pulse, Roar of time

Giratina Lvl 100
Dark Pulse, Energy Ball, Aura Sphere, shadow force

so, can anyone help me out? I want to replace hyper beam on mewtwo for something. my other lvl 100s are:

Gengar: Hypnosis, dream eater, shadow ball, psychic
Metagross : Psychic, metal claw, rest, hyper beam

edit: i might get rid of draco meteor on dragonite and replace with aqua tail?

Azonic October 26th, 2007 6:35 PM

That format is so hard to understand.

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Trait:
Nature:
EVs:
- Move 1
- Move 2
- Move 3
- Move 4

Your use of ubers makes me turn back on this team.

Mr.Roboto October 26th, 2007 6:43 PM

well tell me some improvments i need to make

Eos Aduro October 26th, 2007 8:02 PM

Improvements include, no Mewtwo Rayquaza Dialga Giratina, nop Hyper Beam/Giga Impact EVER, and no more than one more of a type on a Pokemon unless its stat riser, annoyer, substitue, explosion and rapid spin together, so on.

airconditioning October 26th, 2007 8:46 PM

To tell you the truth, your team is terrible and is beyond improvement. But I'll try my best.

First, remove Mewtwo, Rayquaza, Dialga, and Giratina. They're Ubers, and nobody is going to battle someone who uses Ubers. Second, where are your EVs and Natures? You can't tell me that you expect to compete seriously without using EV trained Pokes. You will be DESTROYED. End of discussion.

So basically, scrap your entire team. Outside of the ubers, the movesets for the other two Pokemon are atrocious. Dragon Rush and Draco Meteor on Dragonite? Stick with Dragon Dance and Outrage. And three fire attacks on Charizard? Waaaaay overkill. GIve him Air Slash and Focus Blast over Heat Wave and Blast Burn.

Eos Aduro October 26th, 2007 8:49 PM

And Dragon Dance Outrage is frowned upon because you cant stop Outrage, Skarmory comes in, you is SCREWED!

sims796 October 26th, 2007 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight Winged (Post 3020204)
And Dragon Dance Outrage is frowned upon because you cant stop Outrage, Skarmory comes in, you is SCREWED!

Obviously you never faced it when used right. Lets see...STAB Outrage has 180 Base Power, further boosted by Dragon Dance. It can rip teams apart. However, it can be halted by STEEL types.

Eos Aduro October 26th, 2007 8:52 PM

Dude, Skarmory, STEEL TYPE! Steel-Flying, get thew connection now?

sims796 October 26th, 2007 8:59 PM

Boy, I gotta explain further.

I meant that you shouldn't ever downgrade Outrage because of a simple weakness. You would obviously eliminate Skar first. Or do as most people do and give Nite Fire Blast. Thats like saying "Blissey sucks. It has bad defence!!!".

I KNOW SKAR IS STEEL. DUH. I MEANT OTHER STEELS CAN WALL IT AS WELL AS SKAR. Such as Bronzong, Steelix, and the like.

Eos Aduro October 26th, 2007 9:01 PM

Yes, but you said it cvan be walled by STEEL types, accentuating steel, meaning to show that Skarmory isn;t steel and you;re pointing out the bovious to me, although it is. Outrage has one problem, if a steel type does wall it easily, you are absolutley screwed, because it gets a few free turns, plus being confused downgrades it.

sims796 October 26th, 2007 9:09 PM

I said STEEL. Not Skar. Not Bronzong. STEEL. Meaning all STEEL types. Not pointing out the obvious, you just said Skar walls it, why repeat what you just said? Why not instead use a broader term tgat hits all resisters like STEEL?

Regardless, every plan has its weaknesses. To say Outrage is frowned upon is a tad bit ludicros, since its used so widely, it forced me to get a Bronzong. As said, it can rip apart teams ill-prepared. You must first get rid of Skar & other STEELs first. Not like they'll leave unscratched. It can be used as eairly sweeping, or, more efficisntly, late sweeping.

Eos Aduro October 26th, 2007 9:12 PM

If you said all steel types it would work, but just steel types doesn't. And I disapprove of Outrage still, but use it if you want.

Arcknight316 October 26th, 2007 9:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Roboto (Post 3019841)
Hello, i reckon my team is pretty good but im told it needs improving. so can anyone help me out? my team is:

Charizard Lvl 100
Dragon Pulse, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, blast burn

Mewtwo Lvl 100
Shadow Ball, Psychic, Hyper Beam, Aura Sphere

Rayquaza Lvl 100
Fly, Thunder, Dragon Pulse, draco meteor

Dragonite Lvl 100
Ice Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rush, Draco Meteor

Dialga Lvl 100
Iron Tail, Flamethrower, Dragon Pulse, Roar of time

Giratina Lvl 100
Dark Pulse, Energy Ball, Aura Sphere, shadow force

so, can anyone help me out? I want to replace hyper beam on mewtwo for something. my other lvl 100s are:

Gengar: Hypnosis, dream eater, shadow ball, psychic
Metagross : Psychic, metal claw, rest, hyper beam

edit: i might get rid of draco meteor on dragonite and replace with aqua tail?


this team is everything BUT good. chrizard does NOT need 3 fire moves, no giratina dialga rayquaza mewtwo. nvr use hyper beam-ish moves.
thunderbolt or punch over thunder on dragonite. oh, and a team of sweepers fails

sims796 October 26th, 2007 9:18 PM

Steel types, all steel types, whats the difference? Regardless, I'm referencing Steel types. No matter how you fancy up words, it means Steel types. I know your smart enough to understand what I mean, so I won't sweeten words.

I'm not saying to use it, but don't call it "frowned upon". That isvuntruthful. Not a lie, as you disaprove, but not 100% honest. So many people run Outrage D'nite, Chomp, etc. I hate dragons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3020246)
this team is everything BUT good. chrizard does NOT need 3 fire moves, no giratina dialga rayquaza mewtwo. nvr use hyper beam-ish moves.
thunderbolt or punch over thunder on dragonite. oh, and a team of sweepers fails

Oh, and we said that. You still make a good point.

Mr.Roboto October 26th, 2007 9:35 PM

alright thanks guys. i will take this into consideration and change my team. i might need some help, so can you give me some examples of teams or share your own?

Azonic October 27th, 2007 5:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Roboto (Post 3020279)
alright thanks guys. i will take this into consideration and change my team. i might need some help, so can you give me some examples of teams or share your own?

No. =D

[email protected] Lens / Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Shadowball
- Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast

Wide Lens gives a boost to accuracy, which helps counter Ttar / Chomp and raises Accuracy to Hypnosis and Focus Blast.

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Trait: Clear Body
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 172 HP / 80 Defense
- Meteor Mash
- Thunderpunch
- Agility
- Explosion

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Trait: Inner Focus
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 172 Special Defense / 80 Speed
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Thunderpunch / Earthquake
- Icebeam / Stone Edge

Mr.Roboto October 27th, 2007 2:01 PM

alright ill get to work on those three. any others?

Shiraishi October 27th, 2007 3:08 PM

Penguin, doesn't Agiligross need some speed..

Azonic October 27th, 2007 3:24 PM

Just remember that Agility doubles the Speed Stat. Giving it a Base of 140. It can outrun all the pokemon it needs to without any speed EVs.

Eos Aduro October 27th, 2007 6:21 PM

No it needs about 90-100 speed EVs, it makes it outrun some big threat that I always forget about.

peabobo's sexy legs October 27th, 2007 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Roboto (Post 3019841)
Hello, i reckon my team is pretty good but im told it needs improving. so can anyone help me out? my team is:

Charizard Lvl 100
Dragon Pulse, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, blast burn

Mewtwo Lvl 100
Shadow Ball, Psychic, Hyper Beam, Aura Sphere

Rayquaza Lvl 100
Fly, Thunder, Dragon Pulse, draco meteor

Dragonite Lvl 100
Ice Beam, Thunder, Dragon Rush, Draco Meteor

Dialga Lvl 100
Iron Tail, Flamethrower, Dragon Pulse, Roar of time

Giratina Lvl 100
Dark Pulse, Energy Ball, Aura Sphere, shadow force


so, can anyone help me out? I want to replace hyper beam on mewtwo for something. my other lvl 100s are:

Gengar: Hypnosis, dream eater, shadow ball, psychic
Metagross : Psychic, metal claw, rest, hyper beam

edit: i might get rid of draco meteor on dragonite and replace with aqua tail?

This pretty good.

Anyway, thank you for your patronage.

Have a great day, you great good decent trainer, you.

Dragonite:
Standard EV Spread
Modest Nature
Draco Meteor Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rest
Flamethrower

BOLTBEAMTHROWERFTW

Eos Aduro October 27th, 2007 6:40 PM

For a SPECIAL SWEEPER, Im guessing that thing is being physical purfugly. Which means

Thunder Punch
Dragon Dance
Dragon Claw/Outrage
Earthquake

Arcknight316 October 27th, 2007 6:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3023977)
This pretty good.

Anyway, thank you for your patronage.

Have a great day, you great good decent trainer, you.

Dragonite:
Standard EV Spread
Modest Nature
Draco Meteor Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rest
Flamethrower

BOLTBEAMTHROWERFTW


1. Nice advice for him.
2. Nice way to express yourself XD.

Mr.Roboto October 27th, 2007 9:07 PM

hey you guys dont have to be dicks about it. im only a begginer, remember! >:(

Smarties-chan October 28th, 2007 5:52 AM

And you don't have to address to people in such a manner, Mr.Roboto. Giving constructive criticism is not the same as being a male organ, which isn't even related to the matter in the first place. The next time I see you act like that, you'll get a warning right away.

As for the rest of you, don't automatically assume a team isn't meant for Uber battles. True, if it's meant for standard battles, then no one will fight you if you have Ubers, but there is an Uber metagame, you know. =\ Uber battles are quite fun, actually.


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