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cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 2:32 PM

RATE MY NEW EMERALD TEAM!
 
NO MEAN RATINGS OR I WILL RESULT TO PROFANITY UNDERSTOOD?THIS IS MY FUTURE EMERALD TEAM FYI!

SCEPTILE
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED AND SP. ATT.
MOVES: LEAF BLADE,RETURN,TOXIC,PROTECT
TRAIT:OVERGROW
ITEM:LEFTOVERS

NINJASK
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED AND HP
MOVES: SHADOW BALL,GIGA DRAIN,SLASH,DOUBLE TEAM
TRAIT:SPEED BOOST
ITEM:FOCUS BAND

AGGRON
EV TRAINED IN: DEF. AND SP.DEF.
MOVES: IRON TAIL,DOUBLE EDGE,IRON DEFENSE,METAL SOUND
TRAIT:ROCK HEAD
ITEM:QUICK CLAW

CAMERUPT
EV TRAINED IN: ATT. AND SP.ATT.
MOVES: ERUPTION,EARTHQUAKE,ROCK SLIDE,SANDSTORM
TRAIT:MAGMA ARMOR
ITEM:KINGS ROCK

CRAWDAUNT
EV TRAINED IN: ATT. AND DEF.
MOVES: CRAB HAMMER,ICE BEAM,SLUDGE BOMB,PROTECT
TRAIT:SHELL ARMOR
ITEM:SHOAL SHELL

ALTARIA
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED,ATT.,AND DEF.
MOVES: DRAGON CLAW,FLY,IRON TAIL,DRAGON DANCE
TRAIT:NATURAL CURE
ITEM:LAX INCENSE

ALL POKEMON ARE LV.50 RATE 1-5 1 BEING THE BEST AND 5 BEING THE WORST AND FINALLY THIS IS A BATTLE FRONTIER TEAM!

Azonic October 28th, 2007 2:43 PM

TURN OFF THE DANG CAPS LOCK WILL YA.

Sceptile - I won't waste my time on him since you will not accept a reasonable one.

Ninjask@Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Substitute
- X-Scissor
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance

All I can do, the other ones aren't exactly whats so hot.

Steelix > Aggron
Swampert > Crawdaunt
Dragonite / Salamence > Altaria

EDIT: also, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Battle Frontier only allow 3 Pokemon?

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 2:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 3027520)
TURN OFF THE DANG CAPS LOCK WILL YA.

Sceptile - I won't waste my time on him since you will not accept a reasonable one.

Ninjask@Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Substitute
- X-Scissor
- Baton Pass
- Swords Dance

All I can do, the other ones aren't exactly whats so hot.

Steelix > Aggron
Swampert > Crawdaunt
Dragonite / Salamence > Altaria

EDIT: also, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Battle Frontier only allow 3 Pokemon?

yes it does but a team is 6 pokemon and no 3 pokemon can beat the battle brains duh so im going to switch out
pokemon at different facilities!BTW most of those pokemon
are uncatchable in EMERALD and X-scissor cant be learned in EMERALD.

Azonic October 28th, 2007 2:58 PM

Umm... really its not that hard to catch Salamence, Steelix, or Swampert.

Swampert - Beginning Pokemon / Trade
Steelix - Trade
Salamence - Meteor Falls - Small Room

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 3:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguinpal6 (Post 3027563)
Umm... really its not that hard to catch Salamence, Steelix, or Swampert.

Swampert - Beginning Pokemon / Trade
Steelix - Trade
Salamence - Meteor Falls - Small Room

Rate the Pokemon that he has given to you. Really, no one cares to have their Pokemon replaced, unless it's filled with Ditto and Luvdisc.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:03 PM

salemence-im not a big fan of him(he sucks)
steelix and awmpert-i dont have the right games to trade them

airconditioning October 28th, 2007 3:14 PM

Umm... Salamence is one of the strongest Pokes in the game. Altaria is the one that sucks.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:18 PM

FYI i had a salamence once and it lost to a spinda i had a altaria once and it was what helped me to capture rayquaza lv.70 with ultra ball!

sims796 October 28th, 2007 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027576)
Rate the Pokemon that he has given to you. Really, no one cares to have their Pokemon replaced, unless it's filled with Ditto and Luvdisc.

Purfugly is right. Before you give replacements, give sets first.

It seems cooltrainerjeremy is not open to advice. There was a 2-page thread on Sceptile, but as Penguinpal(2.0) said, he is STILL using that horrid one. So it seems our advice goes in one ear & out the other.

EDIT:If you result in profanity, that is a QUICK way to get banned. I would advise you to report rude post.

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027490)
NO MEAN RATINGS OR I WILL RESULT TO PROFANITY UNDERSTOOD?THIS IS MY FUTURE EMERALD TEAM FYI!
First off, turn off the dang caps lock. 2nd, we don't do "mean rates," we do honest ones. If you can't handle honesty, don't bother posting your team. Also, be open to our advise, since that sceptile thread didn't go so well.
SCEPTILE
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED AND SP. ATT.
MOVES: LEAF BLADE,RETURN,TOXIC,PROTECT
TRAIT:OVERGROW
ITEM:LEFTOVERS

Use the correct format. you fail to listen. That set fails. Sceptile is a prettuy bad toxistaller...really. Just use the subseeder, or don't use it at all...

NINJASK
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED AND HP
MOVES: SHADOW BALL,GIGA DRAIN,SLASH,DOUBLE TEAM
TRAIT:SPEED BOOST
ITEM:FOCUS BAND

Focus band is a hax item, and is banned. So is double team :/ Ninjask is a BPer, though I personally hate it. If I were to use ninjask, I'd use a novelty CB set, which cathes people by surprise. Ninjask can't take a hit anyways, put the EVs in attack instead.

AGGRON
EV TRAINED IN: DEF. AND SP.DEF.
MOVES: IRON TAIL,DOUBLE EDGE,IRON DEFENSE,METAL SOUND
TRAIT:ROCK HEAD
ITEM:QUICK CLAW

Quick claw is a hax item...but really, iron tail is a pitiful move, iron defense is ruined by any critical hit, and metal sound? Why is that there? Aggron doesn't have any special attacks to make use of it, and the foe can switch if you bring in a special sweeper :/ Also, seeing aggron is your wall, put the special defense EVs in HP...ALL walls need plenty of HP.

CAMERUPT
EV TRAINED IN: ATT. AND SP.ATT.
MOVES: ERUPTION,EARTHQUAKE,ROCK SLIDE,SANDSTORM
TRAIT:MAGMA ARMOR
ITEM:KINGS ROCK

ANOTHER hax item? Just get rid of it...sandstorm only hurts your team, and camerupt is too slow to make use of eruption.

CRAWDAUNT
EV TRAINED IN: ATT. AND DEF.
MOVES: CRAB HAMMER,ICE BEAM,SLUDGE BOMB,PROTECT
TRAIT:SHELL ARMOR
ITEM:SHOAL SHELL

Shoal shell? I REALLY hope you meant shell bell...anyhow, crawdaunt is pretty bad, but if you must use it, give it a physical attacking set, which would include swords dance. Really though, I'd just replace it.

ALTARIA
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED,ATT.,AND DEF.
MOVES: DRAGON CLAW,FLY,IRON TAIL,DRAGON DANCE
TRAIT:NATURAL CURE
ITEM:LAX INCENSE

Hax item medley! Iron tail still fails, and fly is even worse. Your EVs are too unclear BTW. This is fail.

ALL POKEMON ARE LV.50 RATE 1-5 1 BEING THE BEST AND 5 BEING THE WORST AND FINALLY THIS IS A BATTLE FRONTIER TEAM!

Battle frontier? You only need 3 pokemon...

1. that is my rate. You have no wall...aggron doesn't count with its terrible moveset and EVs, not to mention 4x weak to EQ. you're lucky I'm even rating this since you didn't listen in the other thread. But really, if you're restricted to emerald pokemon, there are still far better pokemon to use...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027578)
salemence-im not a big fan of him(he sucks)
steelix and awmpert-i dont have the right games to trade them

Mence sucks? lol It's the most OU sweeper, maybe in the entire 3rd gen metagame.

Since your sceptile is garbage and you won't change it, restart your game and get swampert.


that is my honest rate. Not trying to be "mean," but honest.

EDIT: If your Mence got beat by a spinda, it's YOUR fault. And lol, the wild rayquaza has a joke moveset. anybody, even n00bs, can catch it. Levels are IRRELEVANT.

Eos Aduro October 28th, 2007 3:25 PM

You seem to be giving everyone a awful lot of lip for someone who wants help. Ok fine different physical sweeper, Dragonite then.

J-Rad October 28th, 2007 3:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027606)
FYI i had a salamence once and it lost to a spinda i had a altaria once and it was what helped me to capture rayquaza lv.70 with ultra ball!

thatz cauz u didn't use it right, i've seen mences destroy teams when used right

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonzilla25 (Post 3027634)
thatz cauz u didn't use it right, i've seen mences destroy teams when used right

That's quite right. Spinda has a base stat of 60 for every stat, and a pretty bad movepool. It's your fault if you lost to a pokemon that weak :/

sims796 October 28th, 2007 3:26 PM

Anti, this is an ingame team. There are no hax ingame.

You are absolutely right, however, if this was compettitive.

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027639)
Anti, this is an ingame team. There are no hax ingame.

You are absolutely right, however, if this was compettitive.

I did the rate b4 I saw the battle fronteir part... but yes.

Hax items still fail, EVEN in ingame. Replace them with better items like lum berry and leftovers.

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 3:34 PM

Ah, so Anti-Pop is back I see? Very good

As for the team, the ONLY Steel/Rock type that should be used is Probopass

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:35 PM

blah im not giving lip and swampert is a pushover to sceptile so im not getting swampert.
salamence is just lame and IM NOT USING IT!

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027607)
Purfugly is right. Before you give replacements, give sets first.

It seems cooltrainerjeremy is not open to advice. There was a 2-page thread on Sceptile, but as Penguinpal(2.0) said, he is STILL using that horrid one. So it seems our advice goes in one ear & out the other.

EDIT:If you result in profanity, that is a QUICK way to get banned. I would advise you to report rude post.

PEOPLE! Use some common sense! If he doesn't like your moveset, give another one! Or just move on! It's not for YOUR benefit, it's for HIS. So don't go all "OH! COOL! SUBSEED!" on everyone. Not every single person likes the most common sets, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Don't deprive him of help just because he may not like your set.

Btw, you'll need different type Physical attacks for your Aggron. I wouldn't reccomend Double Team, but it's in-game anyway.

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 3027665)
Ah, so Anti-Pop is back I see? Very good

As for the team, the ONLY Steel/Rock type that should be used is Probopass

Not really back...more like visiting lol

But anyhow, if you want a wall you can find in emerald, or 2 actually, use milotic and skarmory. Yes, you'll have to find feebas.

EDIT: Jeremy, sectile beats swampert because it has leaf blade and is faster. Swampert is the better pokemon, really. Just because sceptile beats it 1 on 1...it means nothing dude.

Purfugly, we aren't trying to be idiots. If his set worked, it would be fine, but it doesn't. we keep telling him that and he refuses to listen. The only 2 usable sets in 3rd gen are the special sweeper set and subseeder. the others are blah.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:36 PM

probopass is a d/p pokemon this is EMERALD not D/P!

sims796 October 28th, 2007 3:36 PM

That is true. Still, all standard rules fly out the window ingame.

However, that doesn't mean he can't have a funtional team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3027648)
I did the rate b4 I saw the battle fronteir part... but yes.

Hax items still fail, EVEN in ingame. Replace them with better items like lum berry and leftovers.



EDIT:4th gen, Name! 4th gen!

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:38 PM

ive got milotic before though and it wasnt to good but i guess its worth a try!

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027677)
ive got milotic before though and it wasnt to good but i guess its worth a try!

Milotic is possible the best mixed wall in the game.

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / rest in SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Surf

I'm a bit rusty with this guy, but it's a great poke.

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027677)
ive got milotic before though and it wasnt to good but i guess its worth a try!

Really... no. Don't waste your time on a Milotic for in-game.

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027690)
Really... no. Don't waste your time on a Milotic for in-game.

Milotic is quite the beast in the battle frontier actually.

airconditioning October 28th, 2007 3:44 PM

If the Battle Frontier is entirely three on three, then Milotic might not be worth it. Walls aren't meant for three on three.

EDIT: Or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 3:44 PM

Physical walling ~3rd Generation~

Aggron<SteelixSkarmory>Forretress>Steelix>Metagross

Reference for Steel-type walling

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3027693)
Milotic is quite the beast in the battle frontier actually.

But if he's just using it for in-game, it's too much of a pain.

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airconditioning (Post 3027694)
If the Battle Frontier is entirely three on three, then Milotic might not be worth it. Walls aren't meant for three on three.

You do need one wall in the battle frontier, mixed being the best. you'd be amazed at what you find in the battle frontier that can outsweep you.

EDIT: He can decide if he uses it, but I can tell you from experience, you're gonna need to EV train a couple of pokemon for the battle frontier. they don't need pinpoint IVs and EVs or anything, but you have to know what you're doing, or you'll get haxed to death.

Lathspell October 28th, 2007 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027490)
NO MEAN RATINGS OR I WILL RESULT TO PROFANITY UNDERSTOOD?THIS IS MY FUTURE EMERALD TEAM FYI!

SCEPTILE
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED AND SP. ATT.
MOVES: LEAF BLADE,Leech Seed,TOXIC,PROTECT
TRAIT:OVERGROW
ITEM:LEFTOVERS

A staller sceptile. But Leech Seed is a MUST on him.

NINJASK
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED AND HP
MOVES: SHADOW BALL,Silver Wind,Swords Dance,DOUBLE TEAM/Aerial Ace
TRAIT:SPEED BOOST
ITEM:FOCUS BAND

I don't suggest him as a pure attacker, but I guess you can screw stuff with double team. But put Swords Dance in there anyway. Jask is a Baton Passer by trade and is best used as such.

AGGRON
EV TRAINED IN: DEF. AND SP.DEF.
MOVES: IRON TAIL,DOUBLE EDGE/Earthquake,IRON DEFENSE/Counter,Rock Slide
TRAIT:ROCK HEAD
ITEM:QUICK CLAW

I'd use him as kind of a sweeper, but he's best used with Counter on, since he can take an earthquake or a brick break (hopefully) and turn it back for heavenly damage.

CAMERUPT
EV TRAINED IN: ATT. AND SP.ATT.
MOVES: Overheat/Fire Blast,EARTHQUAKE,ROCK SLIDE,Explosion/Fissure?
TRAIT:MAGMA ARMOR
ITEM:KINGS ROCK

A camel that goes boom. One of my favorite pokes, gets STAB on earthquake and overheat. Cool. Did I mention it goes BOOM?

CRAWDAUNT
EV TRAINED IN: ATT. AND DEF.
MOVES: Swords Dance,Surf,Brick Break,Body Slam
TRAIT:SHELL ARMOR
ITEM:SHOAL SHELL

This guy strongly reminds me of the shark. Ergo, it's kinda damn lame. But he gets SD, and I respect that. Surf is there for the STAB. He could use a bit more speed though. Eh, he's okay, for a crab...

ALTARIA
EV TRAINED IN: SPEED,ATT.,AND DEF.
MOVES: DRAGON CLAW,Earthquake,Aerial Ace,DRAGON DANCE
TRAIT:NATURAL CURE
ITEM:LAX INCENSE

If you want to go that way. I'd go with Rest abuse instead of DD. It's more fun and rather practical.

ALL POKEMON ARE LV.50 RATE 1-5 1 BEING THE BEST AND 5 BEING THE WORST AND FINALLY THIS IS A BATTLE FRONTIER TEAM!

Overall, you desperately need a Tank (a real one, not Aggron) and a Sponge. A GOOD special sweeper would be nice too, since you use a staller Sceptile. But it will get you through the game nicely anyway. I suggest switching Crawdaunt or something for a Gardevoir with Calm Mind, and you get a sponge and a special sweeper at the price of one. Nice deal ;)

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:49 PM

my milotic lost to maxies camerupt so im going with some other pokemon

Anti October 28th, 2007 3:50 PM

Maxie? Is that the magma guy? It must have been horribly undertrained. If you don't wanna use it, fine by me, but that isn't a very good reason.

If you want the best BF sweeper, look no farther than CBmence...but if you won't use that either...

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:52 PM

whats a good tank?and almost all GOOD teams in my opinion consist of one fire,grass,water,flying and electric pokemon even thuogh i left out the lightning pokemon.

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 3:53 PM

Skarmory, Steelix, Metagross, there's quite a few

Metagross won't stay long due to Earthquake, same as for Steelix, but he can take a hit Earthquakes before he faints

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:54 PM

fine i guess ill give cbmence a 2nd chance!besides last time he wasnt even ev trained!

J-Rad October 28th, 2007 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027725)
whats a good tank?and almost all GOOD teams in my opinion consist of one fire,grass,water,flying and electric pokemon even thuogh i left out the lightning pokemon.

what do u mean by lightning pokemon?????

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027725)
whats a good tank?and almost all GOOD teams in my opinion consist of one fire,grass,water,flying and electric pokemon even thuogh i left out the lightning pokemon.

You should really go on the Rock-Psychic-Water-Fire-Fighting-Electric approach or something similar.

Camerupt is a good 3rd gen tank

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:55 PM

right so would a good team have swampert,metagross,and salemence?

sims796 October 28th, 2007 3:55 PM

Look, the pure reason that you are losing isn't because the pokemon sucks...its you. I'm not saying you suck, but stop blaming the pokemon. Milotic should NEVER lose to Camerupt. Ever. This is ingame, so a loss is no big deal-everyone loses at some point. But don't go saying "I hate Salamence-it lost to Spinda!" Because that is your fault that it manage to lose to Spinda. How did you manage that anyway?

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:57 PM

yes camerupts moves are exetreamly strong and if most of you read the begining of the thread i said this is a FUTURE team!

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 3:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027741)
right so would a good team have swampert,metagross,and salemence?

Actually not at all. It would begin to overlap, especially in the 3rd Gen.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 3:58 PM

IDK i guess it had a horrid moveset and lack of evs?

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 3:59 PM

No, It's, NOT! Camerupt is a HORRIBLE wall being weak to Earthquake

sims796 October 28th, 2007 3:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027749)
yes camerupts moves are exetreamly strong and if most of you read the begining of the thread i said this is a FUTURE team!

??? Excuse me? Thats stilk no reason it should ever beat Milotic.

We KNOW its for a future team. We are giving you advice, but are you listening?

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 3027760)
No, It's, NOT! Camerupt is a HORRIBLE wall being weak to Earthquake

Which is rarely used INGAME. INGAME is the key word here.

Lathspell October 28th, 2007 4:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027725)
whats a good tank?and almost all GOOD teams in my opinion consist of one fire,grass,water,flying and electric pokemon even thuogh i left out the lightning pokemon.

First Question: The best tank in Emerald is Skarmory. You could go for a decent Rhydon if you want it to do some damage, but it's not really a tank. Skarm walls everything. And...SPIKES :D

Second Comment...: HELL NO. A good team consists of a Tank, a Sponge, 1-2 Physical Sweepers and 1-2 Special Sweepers. That should be enough for ingame. You don't really need a spinner or a counter to some strategic stuff. The pokemon doesn't have to be fire grass, water, flying, electric. Just make sure you have the moves to fight kind of anything. And also make sure that you don't have a common weakness in your team. For example, you have about 3 pokemon that are weak to ice. That's not terrible, but make sure you have a counter to ice moves. Your sponge should take care of that. But you don't have one...I'd say a Boltbeaming Dragonite with Brick Break can wipe your entire team. Lucky you won't meet him :)

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:01 PM

yah your probably right purfugly,a team of sweapers with one ground type,one grass type,and one ice type would easily destroy it!

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:01 PM

Ingame? Oh, then I have no business here ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenguinPal6
~kthxbai


sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027765)
Which is rarely used INGAME. INGAME is the key word here.

We are not debating Camerupt! Cooltrainerjeremy started saying how he dislikes Milotic cause it lost to Camerupt, but tried to excuse it by saying Camerupt is strong.

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027772)
We are not debating Camerupt! Cooltrainerjeremy started saying how he dislikes Milotic cause it lost to Camerupt, but tried to excuse it by saying Camerupt is strong.

We're not debating Milotic either. Now, he doesn't want to use Milotic - come up with something new or move on.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:06 PM

whats a sponge anyway?rhydon is extreamly hard to train and a waist of time!skarmory will lose to a pichu you fool LOL!

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:07 PM

Sponge = Special Wall

why am I even posting here...

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027790)
We're not debating Milotic either. Now, he doesn't want to use Milotic - come up with something new or move on.

He isn't listening to any real suggestions. Therefore, there isn't a point in moving on.

If ya saw, the only reason Milotic & Camerupt was even mentioned was for an example that you apparently missed.

EDIT:This kid cooltrainerjeremy is just a pure noob, wasting everyone's time. He needs to grow up.

J-Rad October 28th, 2007 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027794)
whats a sponge anyway?rhydon is extreamly hard to train and a waist of time!skarmory will lose to a pichu you fool LOL!

sponge= specail wall ex. Blissy, but u can't get her in emerald w/o trading :(

edit: flip name said it be4 me.

Skarm doesn't suck, and no one in their rihgt mind would keep it out when an eletric type is out, FYI pichu sucks and can't do anything to skarm

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:11 PM

IS THIS A GOOD TEAM?
rock-shukle
psychic-gardevior
water-milotic
fire-camerupt
fighting-haryama
electric-manecric

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027797)
He isn't listening to any real suggestions. Therefore, there isn't a point in moving on.

If ya saw, the only reason Milotic & Camerupt was even mentioned was for an example that you apparently missed.

EDIT:This kid cooltrainerjeremy is just a pure noob, wasting everyone's time. He needs to grow up.

Um.. I saw the example. But I also brought up Camerupt seperately.

Maybe if you would stop REPLACING his INGAME team with OU Pokemon, he'd listen to you.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:14 PM

actualy pichu can beat skarm if it knew volt tackle a special hard to get breed move of pichus only obtainable in emerald!

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027794)
whats a sponge anyway?rhydon is extreamly hard to train and a waist of time!skarmory will lose to a pichu you fool LOL!

This thread proves what an unskilled player you are. You call us fools, yet you don't even know how to use pokes right.

Why the hell would you keep Skarmory on ELECTRIC types? Are you a noob or what? It is meant to wall all physical attacks.
You call us fools, yet can't even figure out what's common sense. You need to grow up. You ask us for help on your sucky team, yet you insult & ignore us.

I'm requesting this thread to be locked.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:16 PM

thank you purfugly on my second to last comment i asked if camerupt AND milotic on the same team would be good but none of you answered me ANSWER ME DANGIT!

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027815)
Um.. I saw the example. But I also brought up Camerupt seperately.

Maybe if you would stop REPLACING his INGAME team with OU Pokemon, he'd listen to you.

Also, I never replaced ANYONE. HE mentioned Milotic losing to Camerupt. I merely used his example.

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:19 PM

Milotic losing to Camerupt is complete lol

Lathspell October 28th, 2007 4:19 PM

Seriously dude, first get rid of the ideea that you need a pokemon of each damn type. I had that ideea the first time I played pokemon, but trust me, it's only good for the TV show. It doesn't make a good team. Not at all. And yeah, Shuckle SUCKS. Badly. Until you get those ideeas through your head, there's not much we can do for you. And grasp the concept of a tank. It's to tank Physical attackers for christ sake. You never bring it out against anything else. This just gave me the ideea that even if you get together an ideal team, made to wipe the game and the Battle Frontier, you wouldn't be able to use it properly and your Salamence would still loose to a Spinda...sheesh...can't imagine that one...

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027835)
thank you purfugly on my second to last comment i asked if camerupt AND milotic on the same team would be good but none of you answered me ANSWER ME DANGIT!

Not really; neither camplement eachother.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:20 PM

SIMS796 I ONLY CALLED YOU ALL FOOLS BCUZ YOU CALLED ME A NOOB A NOOB WOULDNT BE ABLE TO BEAT ANY OF THE BATTLE BRAINS WHERE AS IVE BEATEN LUCY AND FYI SHE HAS A MILOTIC!

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027742)
Look, the pure reason that you are losing isn't because the pokemon sucks...its you. I'm not saying you suck, but stop blaming the pokemon. Milotic should NEVER lose to Camerupt. Ever. This is ingame, so a loss is no big deal-everyone loses at some point. But don't go saying "I hate Salamence-it lost to Spinda!" Because that is your fault that it manage to lose to Spinda. How did you manage that anyway?

THIS was my example, telling him to stop blaming the pokes for their loses. This apparently started a semi disscussion that spurred into you "correcting me". I never suggested ANYTHING.

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027853)
SIMS796 I ONLY CALLED YOU ALL FOOLS BCUZ YOU CALLED ME A NOOB A NOOB WOULDNT BE ABLE TO BEAT ANY OF THE BATTLE BRAINS WHERE AS IVE BEATEN LUCY AND FYI SHE HAS A MILOTIC!

IIRC, Lucy is damn easy. Try something else before giving examples.

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027853)
SIMS796 I ONLY CALLED YOU ALL FOOLS BCUZ YOU CALLED ME A NOOB A NOOB WOULDNT BE ABLE TO BEAT ANY OF THE BATTLE BRAINS WHERE AS IVE BEATEN LUCY AND FYI SHE HAS A MILOTIC!

Oh no! You beat an ingame trainer who never gets better!

Beating ingame trainers doesn't prove a thing. I call you noob because you insult and argue with us as if we are stupid, when YOU need help.

EDIT:Oooo, nice one, Purfugly! No sarcasm intended.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:24 PM

YAH WELL IF YOU HAD A TEM WITH 1 SPONGE 1 TANK 1 WALL 1 SP. SWEEPER AND 1 PHYSICAL SWEEPER AND THEY WERE ALL WATER TYPES YOU WOULD LOSE TO A NOOB TRAINER WITH A SCEPTILE

Shiraishi October 28th, 2007 4:25 PM

Lol at jerermy :/

I had the same idea as you when I played 3rd gen, HOWEVER, my team was somewhat better.

A good water poke for there would be Kingdra. He sets up Rain dance for you and the Manetric could Thunderdance to it's hearts content. Sorry if my suggestion was stupid. I ail at 3rd gen.

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027872)
YAH WELL IF YOU HAD A TEM WITH 1 SPONGE 1 TANK 1 WALL 1 SP. SWEEPER AND 1 PHYSICAL SWEEPER AND THEY WERE ALL WATER TYPES YOU WOULD LOSE TO A NOOB TRAINER WITH A SCEPTILE

What the hell is your point? You are not taking advice, and would rather argue back. I'm reporting this thread now.

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027885)
What the hell is your point? You are not taking advice, and would rather argue back. I'm reporting this thread now.

"I'm reporting this thread" is really just a flame bait; you're setting yourself up, sims.

ChrisG14 October 28th, 2007 4:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027872)
YAH WELL IF YOU HAD A TEM WITH 1 SPONGE 1 TANK 1 WALL 1 SP. SWEEPER AND 1 PHYSICAL SWEEPER AND THEY WERE ALL WATER TYPES YOU WOULD LOSE TO A NOOB TRAINER WITH A SCEPTILE

Or they could use Ice Beam or a Physical attack and kill it. Wait, why am I posting here?

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:30 PM

Whoa now, Why the hell is this thread even have 3 pages?

Milotic>Camerupt

Lucy<Any Human

There

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:30 PM

NAME YOUR LAME LOL and just to make you all happy ill make one more team with swampert!

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:31 PM

Uhh yeah I'm lame O_O good rhyme

No seriously, this is becoming a joke

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027892)
"I'm reporting this thread" is really just a flame bait; you're setting yourself up, sims.

And arguing back my every post for whatever reason won't help, either.

Lathspell October 28th, 2007 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027872)
YAH WELL IF YOU HAD A TEM WITH 1 SPONGE 1 TANK 1 WALL 1 SP. SWEEPER AND 1 PHYSICAL SWEEPER AND THEY WERE ALL WATER TYPES YOU WOULD LOSE TO A NOOB TRAINER WITH A SCEPTILE

You totally missed my point. I stated in my first post that you must watch out for common weaknesses. That doesn't mean you have to get a pokemon of every damn type out there. If you have a tank you don't need a wall, they're basically the same think, only a tank can do a bit of damage. And I hate breaking it to you, but beating some ****ty trainer ingame doesn't make you an expert. The fact that you brag about that makes you a NOOB. Also get it through your head that a super effective hit doesn't mean the other guy is dead. A water sponge could take hits from Sceptile and Ice Beam him to death. Easy enough. You're really confused, so to speak, and you won't LISTEN!!

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:32 PM

cooltrainerjeremy is now considered "spammer"

Anti October 28th, 2007 4:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027853)
SIMS796 I ONLY CALLED YOU ALL FOOLS BCUZ YOU CALLED ME A NOOB A NOOB WOULDNT BE ABLE TO BEAT ANY OF THE BATTLE BRAINS WHERE AS IVE BEATEN LUCY AND FYI SHE HAS A MILOTIC!

Wow, I sure missed a lot in doing my homework!

I hope the little time off I had has allowed me to clean up my demeanor enough not to go nuts here...

You, not to be mean, aren't a skilled player. Sure pichu can beat skarm, but no one with a brain would leave skarmory to get killed. you see thunderbolt coming, so you switch to steelix which isn't affected by it...simple logic.

I've been accused of flaming by several members and at this point I can't disagree. Still, sims never loses his composure. He seems to be really mad, which he never is. this shows how frustrating it is to respond to somebody who doesn't listen. Really, we're only trying to help.

I might be the last 3rd gen player left here [/exageration], so I can tell you this: the battle frontier isn't as easy as ingame. It really isn't. they're kind of the same thing, but really, the BF does actually require a bit of skill to beat. Just because it's ingame doesn't mean that EV training is a total waste. Even giving a mere 100 EVs to an ingame pokemon can make a difference in the frontier.

BTW, camerupt is poor at best :/ EQ = dead camerupt...

Now, I'll just give you my old team I used. It worked very nicely. It's a genral team though, you'll have to alter it a bit for certain facilities.

Salamence (F) @ Choice Band ** Monstermence
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

the mence I use on Netbattle...the same one I used at the BF. It pwns.

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Wrathkou
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Crunch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunderbolt

My other Netbattle sweeper. Since you can't get it, use a similar CMing pokemon. I recommend alakazam. the same build is nice to use though. the battle frontier pokemon don't like CM much.

The 3rd pokemon is the milotic I posted earlier.


Okay. that's about all the help I can give you. Take it or leave it, but if you won't listen to us, just PLEASE ask the mods to close this since it would then be a pointless thread.

EDIT: After reading the posts before this that were posted as I was typing this, I'm tempted to delete this...

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:33 PM

is swampert a good tank?or is he a good wall?

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:34 PM

Okay, everyone get one last flame before we all get banned for this mess caused by a misundestanding. (lol.. NNOOOO!)

Jeremy, maybe stop posting RMTs for now, at least wait until you get 4th gen so strategists can rate competently.

Anti October 28th, 2007 4:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027913)
is swampert a good tank?or is he a good wall?

Like you'll listen...but I'll tell you anyways.

It's a tank...90 base Def, 100 base HP doesn't cut it as a wall you know...

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:34 PM

Didn't we say yes, already? Yes, it is.

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3027918)
Didn't we say yes, already? Yes, it is.

It's not a Yes or No question. ._.
Btw, how many people did you successfully drive away from the forums while I was gone?

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027915)
Okay, everyone get one last flame before we all get banned for this mess caused by a misundestanding. (lol.. NNOOOO!)

Jeremy, maybe stop posting RMTs for now, at least wait until you get 4th gen so strategists can rate competently.

Purfugly, you are the one being insulting as well. We are helping, but he is ignoring all help, and arguing back, and you are defending him. We are giving him viable advice, only for it to be spit back in our face. Why you defend him is beyond me.

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:37 PM

cooltrainerjeremy is offically blind

Oh my god, I can't believe how many kids I found dwelling in PC flaming at Professionals in one week. I understand Anti-Pop, PC is becoming a bad place.... my god

PC was never like this a long time ago, it was actually very different until a few members destroyed PC. I don't think there's any way to bring the Old PC back..

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:38 PM

fine ill have to substitute raikou though lol

peabobo's sexy legs October 28th, 2007 4:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027932)
fine ill have to substitute raikou though lol

Okay, this is where I stop taking sides. I have no idea where that came from. And besides, Raikou is great, especially in-game.

Anti October 28th, 2007 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooltrainerjeremy (Post 3027932)
fine ill have to substitute raikou though lol

No...sub is useless in the battle frontier unless it's for subpunching...that isn't true for real battles, but...

why I'm still taking my time to help is beyond me, but I guess I am.

Wait, you said you couldn't get pokemon outside of emerald...if you can get raiku, go snag a blissey...and a Tyranitar while you're at it.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:42 PM

OMG you all are dumb i am going along with you but you arnt the ones listing!your all(excluding purfugly)to busy flaming me and calling me a NOOB

sims796 October 28th, 2007 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purfugly (Post 3027923)
It's not a Yes or No question. ._.
Btw, how many people did you successfully drive away from the forums while I was gone?

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Out of the blue, you start insulting & arguing with me. I don't know what your problem is.

Lathspell October 28th, 2007 4:43 PM

This is getting painful. There's nothing wrong with 3rd generation. I personally only rate anything other that 4th, because I kinda hate it. Also, the best team raters around here didn't forget how to rate 3rd gen, I assure you. Beside the point, he already got good ratings, but they were made useless by him. You managed to piss off alot of people here, and once an admin sees this, I'd be disappointed if he didn't close this. Damn I miss Mullet. He used to take care of this stuff with alot of imagination :P.

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:47 PM

Could someone PM a Super Mod to lock this damn thread already? I really don't like where it's starting to go

ChrisG14 October 28th, 2007 4:47 PM

Wow, still no mod.

Well, I've had my daily does of stupid.

cooltrainerjeremy October 28th, 2007 4:48 PM

OMG your all still flaming me and listen to yourselves you all keep blaming it on me and you all hate me and are just continuing to get me banned OMG

Azonic October 28th, 2007 4:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 3027899)
Whoa now, Why the hell is this thread even have 3 pages?

Milotic>Camerupt

Lucy<Any Human

There

Except Lucy has better looks than most humans =D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 3027769)
Ingame? Oh, then I have no business here ^^

Name... STOP QUOTIN ME!!! >:O

btw Anti-Pop. Swampert makes a good wall since it has Access to Curse.

Quote:

rock-shukle
psychic-gardevior
water-milotic
fire-camerupt
fighting-haryama
electric-manecric
lol nope. Shuckle fails as a wall due to the fact that it has such a low HP stat and numerious weaknesses... And I just noticed you put Shuckle in there... Sure - you can get Shuckle but you can never get Steelix -_-;

Gardevoir isn't too popular in the 3rd generation - Alakazam has a better chance than Gardevoir in battling

Milotic is okay... I guess

Camerupt has a poor stat spread. Its slightly below average and has a x2 weak to Water. It can easily be beat.

Hariyama ... no.

Manectric is used more in 4th Generation with a Choice item.

What you need to focus on more is the roles that each pokemon play instead of the typing.

For a Battle Frontier ... a good team has 1 Physical Sweeper, 1 Special Sweeper, and 1 Dual Wall.

EDIT: SHIZZLE MCFIZZLE I WAS BEAT BY 8 MEMBERS FOR POSTING>.<

Anti October 28th, 2007 4:50 PM

Swampert can't wall since curse is prone to critical hits which destroy the guy. It can't switch into CBers well at all :/

Shiraishi October 28th, 2007 4:51 PM

Swampert is a tank, jeremy. Anyone wanna rate a team worth rating(mine :[)

Faceless* October 28th, 2007 4:51 PM

Swamperts only weak to grass types, it does a pretty good job destroying teams without grass moves

Anti October 28th, 2007 4:53 PM

NOW you guys understand why I left, and at this point looking like I won't be coming back.

As mentioned above, swampert can't wall, but it IS my all-time favorite tank. It really can dominate. I use it on my own team, and it counters lots of stuff.


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