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Arsibiyez October 29th, 2007 6:31 AM

Azumarill....?
 
I suddenly found a new love for Azumarill when D/P came out since there were a lot of Physical attacks to choose from to complement her Huge Power trait. Of course, I did use a Ninjask to pass her some Speed and some additional Attack.


Ninjask @ Focus Sash
Trait: Speed Boost
Impish Nature
- Swords Dance
- Protect
- Endure
- Baton Pass

(The ultimate sacrifice. Useless in battle, outstanding BPing capability.)


Azumarill @ Life Orb
Trait: Huge Power
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Ring
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Return

I've been thinking a lot about replacing Return but I'm just not sure as to what move to replace it with. Help? Thanks. :D

sims796 October 29th, 2007 6:37 AM

DOOOD! WHY AZUMARILL?!!! ITZ LIEK, A WATER TYPZ! YOOSE AZURIL!

I suck at Leet...


Seriously, Azumarill has Superpower as an option. She (It IS a she?) has a base 100 HP. Can't it be an effective Sub Puncher with Focus Punch?

Syaoran October 29th, 2007 7:59 AM

I don't think Ninjask will do her any good... Sandstream starters are getting too common, and focus sash won't help much. I personally prefer Ninjask as a weather changer so it can actually survive and pass to something that needs the weather change (my personal favorite - Heatran, with 1 speed boost and Sunny Day, terrorizing almost everything with life orb, and the opponent isn't going to be using earthquake on Ninjask).

Also, having focus sash and endure sounds a bit contradicting.. maybe substitute over endure and leftovers over focus sash? just a suggestion.
Try wing attack instead of protect, it wouldn't hurt against all those annoying starter infernapes.

Azumarill is a pretty neat pokemon.. I feel it's almost a crime not giving it Aqua Jet, coz a priority move is always good, especially a STAB'd one from a Huge Power pokemon. SubPunching Azu is good too.

sims796 October 29th, 2007 8:04 AM

Subpunching Azu is underrated power. Of course, I second Aqua Ring. Quick kills are important.

Samson October 29th, 2007 8:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 3029414)
I don't think Ninjask will do her any good... Sandstream starters are getting too common, and focus sash won't help much. I personally prefer Ninjask as a weather changer so it can actually survive and pass to something that needs the weather change (my personal favorite - Heatran, with 1 speed boost and Sunny Day, terrorizing almost everything with life orb, and the opponent isn't going to be using earthquake on Ninjask).

Also, having focus sash and endure sounds a bit contradicting.. maybe substitute over endure and leftovers over focus sash? just a suggestion.
Try wing attack instead of protect, it wouldn't hurt against all those annoying starter infernapes.

Azumarill is a pretty neat pokemon.. I feel it's almost a crime not giving it Aqua Jet, coz a priority move is always good, especially a STAB'd one from a Huge Power pokemon. SubPunching Azu is good too.

ray <3

QFE, + double emphasis on the ninjask bit. give ninjask aerial ace (or if you have a fear for gengar starters, night slash), and i prefer giving it a lot of HP w/ leftovers (and not that i suggest it, but i always give it substitute).

if you give ninjask focus sash, instead of sunny day, since it is azumarill, give it rain dance. double stab waterfall = ownage, and prevents sandstorm from ridding focus sash of its usefulness.

Dark Azelf October 29th, 2007 9:01 AM

[email protected] Orb/Leftovers
212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Speed
Trait:Huge Power
Adamant Nature
- Ice Punch
- Brick Break / Focus Punch
- Waterfall
- Aqua Jet / Substitute

It also makes a pretty neat Choice Bander, obviously without Substitute lol. Return is Meh as it already covers everything that Ice Punch, Brick Break and Waterfall and Aqua Jet will hit ._., however use Return if you wish . Brick Break .Ice Punch and Waterfall obviously for coverage, Aqua Jet is for quick kills on things that are faster than you if your low on Hp.

Also Sub punch = Pwnage with Pure Power so its up to you on that one.



Also in regards to Ninjask. It = Fail unless you run a Rapid Spinner to remove Stealth Rock as Jask takes 50 % each time it switches into it.

shedinjask October 29th, 2007 10:10 AM

Jask is the lead.

Subpunch/Waterfall/Ice Punch sounds good. Do it.

Dark Azelf October 29th, 2007 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask (Post 3029599)
Jask is the lead.

Subpunch/Waterfall/Ice Punch sounds good. Do it.

Yeah the thing with jask is that you have be careful due to the abundance of Hazers and Psuedo Hazers not allowing it to stat up. Bringing it back into the match is another story, seeing as it cant take hits and with Stealth Rock floating around itll be hard.

Arsibiyez October 30th, 2007 5:08 AM

Hmm, hmm, hmm... Subpuncher idea interests me. She DOES have 100 base HP to use. I don't believe I'll need Aqua Jet, though. After I use SD, Protect, and Endure once each, I'll have had 3 Speed Boosts to pass to her. Nice idea about the Sand Streamers, though. I'll be giving Jask Rain Dance now.


Is THIS what it should look like?

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
Impish Nature
- Rain Dance
- Swords Dance
- Substitute
- Baton Pass

and Azumarill should be.... what now?

Azumarill @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Trait: Huge Power
Adamant Nature
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- Brick Break / Focus Punch
- Aqua Ring / Substitute

yeah?

Samson October 30th, 2007 9:00 PM

i don't think you get it. giving it rain dance/sunny day is when you give it focus sash. this way, your focus sash does not get ruined by Sandstream/Hail, and if they attack you, yay, focus sash to the rescue rather dying to to sand damage.

scwizard October 30th, 2007 9:14 PM

Where does it say Azumarill can learn ice punch?
http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/pokedex/azumarill
There it doesn't list ice punch as a learnable move.


EDIT: Oh, by move tutor in Emerald.

Go Azumarill the sweeper!

What the above people said:
Aqua Ring
Brick Break/Focus Punch/Superpower/Return (see what works for your playstyle + the stuff you hit)
Aqua Jet > Waterfall
Ice Punch

Also as the other people said baton passing Ninjask is OU (I think) and may be heavily countered in some metas. That's a different topic though.

shedinjask October 31st, 2007 1:08 PM

Aqua Jet/Ice Punch is illegal.

Stick with Waterfall.


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