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Candymancan October 31st, 2007 1:06 PM

Help with a team im building. Cant decide on my last pokemon
 
Ok so here is what i have so far

Slaking With Leftovers "lvl51"

Adament
Hp 260
Atk 235
Def 114
Sp atk 95
Sp def 83
Speed 112

Earthquake
Giga Impact
Brick Break
Slack Off "I havent decited what to put here yet"

Slaking is just ment to basicly kill anything in one shot with high attack. His HP/ATk IV's are 31/29 so his EV's are all maxed in there.

Milotic With Leftovers "lvl50"

Calm
Hp 163
Atk 63
Def 98
Sp Atk 133
Sp def 185
Speed 96

Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Surf
Recover

Like his stats show i put EV's all in Spd def and Sp Attack, as it was hard to get a Calm one i didnt care much about his IV's i think they are in the 0-25 range dont care tho. He is just ment to be a sorta wall/water pokemon ect.

Magnezone Holding "not sure yet" "lvl 55"

Modest
Hp 147
Atk 79
Def 162
Sp atk 213
Sp def 124
Speed 77

Magnet Rise
Thunderbolt
Mirror Shot
Havent decited on a 4th move

Again another wall this time one with alot of sp atk electric/steel moves you get the idea

Duskinor "Still a duskull just finished breeding"

I cant tell you his stats but his Iv's are near perfect 20-31 range for everything.

I was thinking of these moves " i havent decited yet"

Carefull

PainSplit
Trap Room
Wilo-Wisp "maybe ?"
Not sure on his 4th

Tyranitar "still a Larvitar"

Adament

Iv's are all in the 20-30 range

Not sure on moves



Anyway you see what i have on my team. All my pokemon are pretty slow so im not looking to win the speed contest. Im not sure on the 6th pokemon tho. Im stuck between a AeroDactyle or Omastar. Or maybe something other then those 2.

What would you guys pick ? Judging from my team.

Anti October 31st, 2007 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candymancan (Post 3035473)
Ok so here is what i have so far

Slaking With Leftovers "lvl51"

Adament
Hp 260
Atk 235
Def 114
Sp atk 95
Sp def 83
Speed 112

Earthquake
Giga Impact
Focus punch
shadow claw


Slaking is just ment to basicly kill anything in one shot with high attack. His HP/ATk IV's are 31/29 so his EV's are all maxed in there.

Levels are irrelevant...as are stats...post EVs. Focus punch over brick break, shadpw claw for the last slot.

Milotic With Leftovers "lvl50"

Calm
Hp 163
Atk 63
Def 98
Sp Atk 133
Sp def 185
Speed 96

Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Surf
Recover

Like his stats show i put EV's all in Spd def and Sp Attack, as it was hard to get a Calm one i didnt care much about his IV's i think they are in the 0-25 range dont care tho. He is just ment to be a sorta wall/water pokemon ect.

Also use proper formay plz. the set is fine, but that's all the info I'm really given.

Magnezone Holding "not sure yet" "lvl 55"

Modest
Hp 147
Atk 79
Def 162
Sp atk 213
Sp def 124
Speed 77

Substitute
Thunderbolt
Mirror Shot Eh? Is that flash cannon?
Hiddne Power [Fire]

Again another wall this time one with alot of sp atk electric/steel moves you get the idea

Duskinor "Still a duskull just finished breeding"

I cant tell you his stats but his Iv's are near perfect 20-31 range for everything.

I was thinking of these moves " i havent decited yet"

Carefull

PainSplit
shadow sneak
Wilo-Wisp
Fire punch

Tyranitar "still a Larvitar"

Adament

Iv's are all in the 20-30 range

Not sure on moves



Anyway you see what i have on my team. All my pokemon are pretty slow so im not looking to win the speed contest. Im not sure on the 6th pokemon tho. Im stuck between a AeroDactyle or Omastar. Or maybe something other then those 2.

What would you guys pick ? Judging from my team.

edit in bold...yay...you need something FAST...Aero would be nice.

Candymancan October 31st, 2007 1:15 PM

I gave the levels cuss i dont feal like checking the IV's again and telling you guys. The IV's on all my pokemon are near the top cept a couple stats on some pokemon, only the milotic IV's are really low. I'll leave it there.

I had Focus Punch on the slaking and battled with it a little bit and its terrible. Since he is slower then most pokemon i always lose focus and then go into its loafing state losing a turn. His Attack is 457 right now 3 away from being maxed so it doesnt matter how powerfull his moves are his attack cover's that.

The other Stuff you changed like flash cannoni never thought off, but then i was thinking of giving Magnezone Wide Lens, which would make his 85 accuracy 95, with a move thats almost as strong but lowers there accuracy, wouldnt that be better ?

The moves on Duskinor is what i was thinking also but i might try trick room

Dark Azelf October 31st, 2007 1:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3035488)
edit in bold...yay...you need something FAST...Aero would be nice.

Oh yeah i prefer Thunderpunch on Dusknoir so Taunt Gyarados doesnt laugh at you, however its all up to personal preference .



In regards to Aerodactyl


[email protected] Sash/Choice Band/Life Orb
Jolly Nature
216 SPEED / 42 DEF / 252 ATT
- Ice Fang / Crunch / Pursuit / Aerial Ace
- Fire Fang / Crunch / Pursuit / Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge


EV spread allows it to reach 385 speed enough to outspeed everything apart from Jolteon, Ninjask, Electrode. Youll lol at most of those with Focus Sash kicking in then Earthquake.

Anti October 31st, 2007 1:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candymancan (Post 3035507)
I gave the levels cuss i dont feal like checking the IV's again and telling you guys. The IV's on all my pokemon are near the top cept a couple stats on some pokemon, only the milotic IV's are really low. I'll leave it there.
Rebreed. you have to know these things :/
I had Focus Punch on the slaking and battled with it a little bit and its terrible. Since he is slower then most pokemon i always lose focus and then go into its loafing state losing a turn. His Attack is 457 right now 3 away from being maxed so it doesnt matter how powerfull his moves are his attack cover's that.
No. Focus punch just requires prediction :/
The other Stuff you changed like flash cannoni never thought off, but then i was thinking of giving Magnezone Wide Lens, which would make his 85 accuracy 95, with a move thats almost as strong but lowers there accuracy, wouldnt that be better ?
...k
The moves on Duskinor is what i was thinking also but i might try trick room
don't bother with trick room on Noir.

And yeah, I like fire punch for heracross switch-ins. both work.

Candymancan October 31st, 2007 1:37 PM

I know what there IV's were when i bred them, i just cant remember 40 IV's on 5 pokemon off the top of my head.... There IV's are fine you'll just have to trust me on that.

Anti October 31st, 2007 1:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candymancan (Post 3035618)
I know what there IV's were when i bred them, i just cant remember 40 IV's on 5 pokemon off the top of my head.... There IV's are fine you'll just have to trust me on that.

But what are the EVs? It's tough to rate otherwise.

MegaDitto October 31st, 2007 1:50 PM

An Alakazam would help this team. Alakazam can cover most of your weakness and can actually sweep a team. Depending on how you use it.

Alakazam @ Life Orb/Choice Specs
Nature: Timid
EV: 252 Sp Atk/ 252 Spd /6 HP
-Psychic
-Energy Ball
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball

Alakazam @ Focus Sash
Nature: Timid
EV: 252 Spd / 56 HP/ 200 Sp Atk
-Psychic
-Energy Ball
-Recover
-Calm Mind

A defensive sweeper can be over critically helpful.

Candymancan October 31st, 2007 1:50 PM

Here are there Iv's i just did them again

If you insist on pushing me for them... Im not breeding them over again so dont even go there :P i want to battle iv been making this team for 2 weeks now. The IV's are fine for strong area's Magnezon and Miltotic are eh mid class i soppose but i dont care.

Larvitar "Just bred no EV's"

HP 22
ATK 27
Def 29
Speed 29
Sp atk 2
Sp Def 18

Slaking "252 HP" "252 Atk"

HP 31
Atk 29
Def 15
Sp Atk 9
Sp def 24
Speed 11

Milotic "252 Sp def" "252 Sp atk"

HP 11
Atk 11
Def 26
Speed 18
Sp Atk 20
Sp def 24

Magnezone "252 Sp atk "120 Def" "130 Sp def"

HP 10
Atk 12
Def 25
Speed 12
Sp Atk 23
Sp Def 21

Duskull "Just bred no EV's"

HP 26
Atk 29
Def 23
Speed 25
Sp Atk 30
Sp Def 27

Anti October 31st, 2007 4:53 PM

Well, if you want your team to be any good, you're gonna have to rebreed. After all, milotic needs HP EVs to survive. Until then, there isn't much I can help you with :/

Candymancan October 31st, 2007 5:31 PM

The main reason i made this thread was to get a 6th pokemon not to discuss what i had...

I posted what i had so it would help on deciding a 6th pokemon.. lol Forget it tho i'll just pick one, the team i made so far is good

Anti October 31st, 2007 5:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candymancan (Post 3036434)
The main reason i made this thread was to get a 6th pokemon not to discuss what i had...

I posted what i had so it would help on deciding a 6th pokemon.. lol Forget it tho i'll just pick one, the team i made so far is good

But it isn't. the IVs are only decent, and the EVs are off.

Candymancan October 31st, 2007 5:40 PM

The Iv on 2 Pokemon arent good the rest are fine what are you talkin about lol

Larvitar/Duskull are almost perfect. The ones in slaking are where they need to be HP/ATK. The only bad ones are Milotoc and Magnezone so i dunno what ur talkin about

Larvitor doesnt need stats in special atk, neither does slaking he doesnt need speed either. My EV's are fine also seriusly I'll put em where i want em.

just flooding my thread with nonsense sorry i have to be so rude but seriusly

Anti October 31st, 2007 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candymancan (Post 3036477)
The Iv on 2 Pokemon arent good the rest are fine what are you talkin about lol

Larvitar/Duskull are almost perfect. The ones in slaking are where they need to be HP/ATK. The only bad ones are Milotoc and Magnezone so i dunno what ur talkin about

Larvitor doesnt need stats in special atk, neither does slaking he doesnt need speed either. My EV's are fine also seriusly I'll put em where i want em.

just flooding my thread with nonsense sorry i have to be so rude but seriusly

nonsense? Excuse me? My battle record is 34-9. I'm no n00b. I'm only being honest. If you don't wanna listen, fine. See who else will respond with anything different.

sims796 October 31st, 2007 6:29 PM

Like it or not, Anti is right. This is what I mean. Playing the game long does not make you a great compettitive battler.

You are being very, very difficult. Why waste time posting a thread for help just to say "my EV's are fine, I'll put them wherever I want"?

That is rude, and a tad bit arrogant. Don't think that playing the game longer makes you the best battler. It does not.

Remember, things change in compettitive play. If ya wanna keep up, get over yourself, sorry to say it like that.

MegaDitto October 31st, 2007 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3036583)
Like it or not, Anti is right. This is what I mean. Playing the game long does not make you a great competitive battler.

Neither does Battle Records....

sims796 October 31st, 2007 6:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bleach and Sunshine (Post 3036611)
Neither does Battle Records....

Still, that doesn't give him the right to act superior because of the length he played the game. He has done this in multiple threads. Anti felt offended, and bought up his record.

MegaDitto October 31st, 2007 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3036618)
Still, that doesn't give him the right to act superior because of the length he played the game. He has done this in multiple threads. Anti felt offended, and bought up his record.

I'm not joining sides...but I had to point that out.

Candymancan, Anti is trying to help after all.

sims796 October 31st, 2007 7:01 PM

I know you weren't. I was never saying "Anti is right cause he wins a lot". But you & I both know he is smart in battling.

You are 100% correct to call out that battle records mean nothing.

Candymancan October 31st, 2007 8:35 PM

Listen i didnt ask for help on IV or EV's, or movesets.

I posted what i have and i asked what would you think i should put for a 6th pokemon. I could careless what youre record is lol, 39/9 so what ? Seriusly when you post about something other then the person asked for your posting nonsense off topic subjects that have no relavence to what they asked.

Oh btw yes, i take my 12 years experiance over this 39/9 record anyday lol. Not that i care but 39/9 over what iv done cant compare but then again i didnt bring up this record crap, you have no idea what iv done and know so dont go judging me. So stop brining what i say to other people in other posts into this matter cuss it has no relevance to what is going on here.

Thanks for trying to help with my team as a whole but TBH im just saying i didnt ask for help in those area's i just cant decide on a 6th pokemon which i said clearly in the first post judging from my team and its move what should i go for.


Also its my pokemon and I'll put whatever EV and i ll have W/E IV's i want in them and if you think thats rude well you my friend need to go get a life im just telling you that i dont need help on this area because i already know some of there stats suck but like i said im tired of breeding and i just want to finish which is why i asked for a 6th pokemon suggestion. Forget about this whole thread its going no where fast and im tired of arguing with ever damn pokemon nerd i come accross on the internet. It seems all they do is argue about stupid stuff. Pokemon is cool yea but seriusly get a life some of you.

My anger isnt ment to be towards anyone but you gatta relise posting on diff forums and talking to so many idiots after a full day you just vent out like he did to that one guy with his arceus blissy crap. Specially when i ask for help and the whole subject gets off the topic

sims796 November 1st, 2007 11:42 AM

I don't care how angry you are. I also couldn't care less if you've been obsesed with the game for 12 years.

You are proving yourself to be a rude, arrogant little kid. You ask for our help, then insult us. I don't know what you're problem is, and I don't care. Nobody said ANYTHING rude to you AT ALL, but, like a child, you take critisism as an insult. Grow up. For being 21, you sure are childish.

If you feel we are such nerds, then leave the damn forum. You are proving yourself to be a huge hypocrite. You've been in this game for 12 years, and think you're an expert? Get over yourself. Your question was answered, and in none of my post had I ever insulted you.

All I, or anyone here, did was give you constructive critisism. If we were getting off-topic, politely say,"I need no EV help, just a 6th poke". But no. You mouth off like a spoiled child.

airconditioning November 1st, 2007 11:54 AM

On a side note, I've been playing Pokemon since the days of Red and Blue, and I'm siding with Anti and Sims on this matter.

Anti November 1st, 2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3037917)
I don't care how angry you are. I also couldn't care less if you've been obsesed with the game for 12 years.

You are proving yourself to be a rude, arrogant little kid. You ask for our help, then insult us. I don't know what you're problem is, and I don't care. Nobody said ANYTHING rude to you AT ALL, but, like a child, you take critisism as an insult. Grow up. For being 21, you sure are childish.

If you feel we are such nerds, then leave the damn forum. You are proving yourself to be a huge hypocrite. You've been in this game for 12 years, and think you're an expert? Get over yourself. Your question was answered, and in none of my post had I ever insulted you.

And now youi can check the PM I sent you so you can now understand what has happened to strategies and movesets. we're all pokemon nerds now.

My battle record...they're usel;ess, but you didn't respect my opinion, and I was trying to show you I actually do know what I'm talking about.

Anyhow, sims covered most of what I was gonna say...so here...

your EVs are terrible. Half of your pokemon don't have good IVs. To have a REAL team, you must strive for perfection. If you don't want to, don't ask for a rate. Simple.

you see, slaking kinda does need speed lol...IT'S A SWEEPER! they kind of...scratch that...they CRAVE speed. don't talk to me about experience. Time means nothing, only who you've played and your battle experiences. you clearly haven't fought the aragornbirds and richard steels of the world. we see that. we try to help. You flame us. We get angry...it's human nature.

You see, your team lacks several roles good teams have. you have no rapid spinner, or heal beller...no pokemon covers both roles (except lol smeargle lol) so it6 wouldn't matter what I gave you for the sixth slot.

you can't counter heracross, so when you WoW and it switches in to activate guts, you're gonna get BURNT. Scarfcross, CBcross...I don't care what it is, it'll kill you, especially since you don't have a proper counter. you could use gliscor for your last slot, but then you'd have no spinner or heal beller.

then there's electivire. Vire murders this team. so if you choose gliscor, ice punch says hi. Of course, gliscor would win that fight with EQ, but it would be severely dented. Gliscor can't counter vire, so that wouldn't work.

Now I'll move on to DDmence. did I mention you don't have a PHazer? Nope, but now I did. Anything, not just DDmence...that has power-up potential...gyarados, DDtar, DDmence, DDnite...all can murder you since there isn't any way to stop them. In fact, if your opponent has a dragon, they can scout for and destroy milotic, and use any DDer as their late game sweeper and sweep your entire team.

Now let's go to CBers. you could get a counter for them for your last slot, but AGAIN would leave far too many roles to be filled. If you choose to forget about CBers, random earthquakes, stone edges, and focus punches will fly your way and you'll be helpless to stop them...unless you use spot-on prediction, but htem the opponent-if they're any good-will destroy come up with a gameplan on the fly and destroy counters, then proceed to ravage you with rhyperior's CB megahorn.


There, that's a nice little rate.

luke November 1st, 2007 11:55 AM

Twelve Years? I believe Pokemon was released when I was in the 2nd or 3rd Grade. So that's only nine to ten years. Unless you played Red/Green, which would be cool if it's true, then you're recounting of your experience is off. And, you're blatant, rude response to other's criticisms is astounding. You came here to have your team rated by others, meaning you should of expected to hear advice from others you wouldn't be happy with. By responding in such a manner, there is small chance that those who have been treated in a rude manner will respond in a similar way. While there's no excuse for childish bickering, it's human nature to respond when we feel threatened. You could of simply said, "I understand your point of view, but I'd prefer to train in my own manner." I'll agree that some posters (no insult meant to you all), tend to overreact when someone says they'd prefer to not EV train. You have to understand that they know that in order to achieve success in Wi-Fi Competitive battling, you need proper IVs and EVs on every Pokemon. While each of your Pokemon possess respectable IVs in certain stats, they are lacking in other IVs that are vital to survival. So please, act your age (21) and respond in a mature manner. And to stay on topic, here's my assessment of your team:

Slaking - Physical Sweeper
Milotic - Dual Wall
Dusknoir - Dual Wall
Magnezone - Special Sweeper
Tyranitar - Mixed/Physical Sweeper

I'd suggest a tank (Donphan might fit well in this team) who can take damage and deal it right back. Alas, read Anti's suggestions. You're team is sorely missing vital roles to any successful team.

Anti November 1st, 2007 11:58 AM

Yeah...not to mention that without a cleric/heal beller, random will-o-wisps, thunder waves, and other status affects (especially toxic, which is a pain without a cleric) will cripple your team horribly and will pretty mkuch destroy your chances of winning.


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