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Archer November 2nd, 2007 10:34 PM

Medicham
 
Medicham@Choice Scarf/CB/Expert belt
Jolly/Adamant, 252atk+spd
-Fire Punch
-Ice Punch
-Thunderpunch
-BrickBreak/Hijumpkick

What do you think. Also, does His ability double atk after Evs?

Oh, and what would be a good set for vaporeon with haze?

sims796 November 2nd, 2007 10:45 PM

I don't know much on Medicham, but I do know all three punches aren't necessary. & Psycho Cut belongs in there.

Yes, Pure Power increases AFTER EV's. Even if they are random.

Archer November 2nd, 2007 11:32 PM

What should i remove. Oh and i want a vaporeon w/ haze.

Lumine November 3rd, 2007 12:31 AM

Or this

Medicham @ Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 6 HP
-Hi Jump Kick/Brick Break
-Psycho Cut
-Thunderpunch
-Ice Punch

Im thinking Psycho Cut cause of STAB

Archer November 3rd, 2007 1:12 AM

Psychic has crappy coverage. Fire punch hits bronzong and forry

Iceman3k November 3rd, 2007 1:14 AM

I run with Fire, Ice, Psycho, and Kick. Only things that have walled it so far were Slowbro and Starmie.

sims796 November 3rd, 2007 1:32 AM

I prefer Thunder & Ice Punch. What can Thunder/Ice hit that Fire/Ice can't? Gyarados. Besides, even though Bronzong are usually run with Levitate, its always nice to have security against Heatproof.

Still, Fire Punch can BURN. You do NOT wanna accidentally paralyze a Zong, nohoho...

Archer November 3rd, 2007 3:24 AM

So, Fire + Ice punch, Psycho cut and Hi j kick. Band, Scarf or Belt?

Dark Azelf November 3rd, 2007 3:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3043206)
So, Fire + Ice punch, Psycho cut and Hi j kick. Band, Scarf or Belt?

It needs Ice Punch, Thunderpunch, Psycho Cut and Hi Jump Kick.

Youll find that bulky waters (Starmie, Slowbro, Gyarados) are far to common to not run Thunderpunch and the previously stated pokemon lol at Fire/Ice Punch Psycho Cut and Hi Jump Kick thus allowing them to stat/set up, not fun. Also if your running Fire Punch for Bronzong then a Pure Power Hi Jump Kick will do more =/. Ice Electric and Fighting hit more than Fire / Ice and fighting does.



Also try Adamant Nature and Choice Scarf.

MR. MR. MR. ATOM. November 3rd, 2007 3:43 AM

maybe get a shadow ball or fake out in there

airconditioning November 3rd, 2007 4:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR. MR. MR. ATOM. (Post 3043218)
maybe get a shadow ball or fake out in there

No. Shadow Ball is Special, meaning it's useless on Medicham, and Fake Out is just crap anyway. We're talking 4th gen here.

boo836 November 3rd, 2007 5:21 AM

Medicham:
adamant
@expert belt
ice punch
thunder punch
bulk up(?)
psycho cut.

Not sure if you might want to use it though.

Faceless* November 3rd, 2007 5:36 AM

Psycho Cut isn't really for STAB, it's for Weezing D:

Hi Jump Kick already covers a decent coverage with Thunderpunch/Ice Punch, and Night Sla- Ugh it doesn't learn it =(

Stone Ed- DAMN!
Rock Slide? No =D

airconditioning November 3rd, 2007 5:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Name (Post 3043488)
Hi Jump Kick already covers a decent coverage with Thunderpunch/Ice Punch, and Night Sla- Ugh it doesn't learn it =(

Stone Ed- DAMN!
Rock Slide? No =D

And people say that Medicham does the CS Sweeper better than Gallade. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Gamerman/Image%20Macros/yelwacko.gif

boo836 November 3rd, 2007 5:44 AM

But if hi jump kick misses then medicham gets the damege instead so if it was weavile you missed then that's x4 and it has low defence so that's guaranteed that medicham dies. Get it?

Extric November 3rd, 2007 5:47 AM

My Medicham runs with the following:

Medicham @ Choice Scarf
Pure Power / Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 ATK / 252 SPD / 4 DEF
- Hi Jump Kick
- Psycho Cut
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch

It's not as powerful as a Choice Band set, but it still good enough to get the job done and can out speed Jolteon, Aerodactyl, Crobat, Adamant Choice Scarf Heracross, and Adamant Ninjask. You can replace Hi Jump Kick with Brick Break if you don't like the idea of Medicham taking damage when it misses or you attack a Ghost type. Both get STAB though and so does Psycho Cut, but I've seen people replace it with Double-Edge so that they can 2HKO Cresselia. The two punches will scare off Salamence and Gyarados.

airconditioning November 3rd, 2007 5:47 AM

No, if Hi-Jump Kick misses, Medicham just gets recoil damage. He doesn't take the full brunt of his own attack. If he did, everyone would use Brick Break.

Dunsparce November 3rd, 2007 5:48 AM

IMO, Gallade is better.

It may not have Pure Power, but it DOES have a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better movepool. IFOr Elemental Punching Gallade, Import a Male Ralts/Kirlia from Emerald that has been to the Battle Frontier Move Tutor. Even then, There are many better moves for Gallade than those.

boo836 November 3rd, 2007 5:49 AM

Well why does it do it to me? And just me?

airconditioning November 3rd, 2007 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo836 (Post 3043548)
Well why does it do it to me? And just me?

Apparently, the game hates you. According to Serebii's description...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOLSEREBIILOL
If attack misses, user takes 1/8 HP of damage.


boo836 November 3rd, 2007 5:53 AM

Well to me that looked more than one eighth. Wait, do I need my eyes checked?

Shiny November 3rd, 2007 6:01 AM

Try this moveset:

Medicham
Force Palm
Reversal
Energy Ball
Reflect

ultranerd57 November 3rd, 2007 6:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boo836 (Post 3043548)
Well why does it do it to me? And just me?

Actually I've had that problem too when I ,igrated a male Kirlia to my P/D game but it was from XD so that might have had something to do with it.

Anti November 3rd, 2007 6:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kero× (Post 3043585)
Try this moveset:

Medicham
Force Palm
Reversal
Energy Ball
Reflect

Special attacks suck on medicham, just so you know. It is by far best as a choice scarfed attacker.

Speaking of which, why does everybody start putting expert belt on everything? the only poke it ever helped me with was Vire. It needs the speed from scarf anyways.

ultranerd57 November 3rd, 2007 6:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3042818)
What should i remove. Oh and i want a vaporeon w/ haze.

For Vaporeon I've got:

Vaporeon
Relaxed (It needs def)
252hp/ 136def/ 120spdef
Haze
Wish
Surf
Baton Pass

Basically you put it in battle haze off the opponets stats maybe use surf if you can get a supereffective hit or set up wish and pass it on to the pokemon that needs it most.


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