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Archer November 3rd, 2007 9:54 PM

Miltank
 
Rate my miltank. Constructive criticism please.

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Miltank @ Lefties
Scrappy
Impish[-Sp.atk, +Def], 200HP, 200 Def, 52 Atk, 54 Spd
-Heal Bell
-Milk Drink
-Body Slam
-Brick Break/EarthQuake

Healer, fast tank. What do you think?

Anti November 3rd, 2007 9:58 PM

Consider body slam for lovely para hax.

sims796 November 3rd, 2007 10:00 PM

That is fhe worst set ever. You should be ashamed.

Naw, I'm just kidding, could you imagine if I was like that?

If you give it SP.DEF EV's, I think it should be Thick Fat. Otherwise, use it as a pure physical wall.

Archer November 3rd, 2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3046818)
That is fhe worst set ever. You should be ashamed.

Naw, I'm just kidding, could you imagine if I was like that?

If you give it SP.DEF EV's, I think it should be Thick Fat. Otherwise, use it as a pure physical wall.

Imagine? but you are alre- oh. joke. got it.
Sure but, if i make it thick fat, i need something else to hit ghosts with...

Anti November 3rd, 2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3046839)
Imagine? but you are alre- oh. joke. got it.
Sure but, if i make it thick fat, i need something else to hit ghosts with...

In 3rd gen shadow ball would do...

It can learn rock slide...I guess that works. Maybe just switch out :/

sims796 November 3rd, 2007 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3046839)
Imagine? but you are alre- oh. joke. got it.
Sure but, if i make it thick fat, i need something else to hit ghosts with...

Hey, if I'm gonna be a jerk, you should expect bad spelling.

So you really want a dual wall? I'm using Miltank myself, and had JUST now got the pun (get it, Mil-TANK?)

This is my set

[email protected] Band/Scarf
Nature Adamant
Return
Ice Punch
EQ
Milk Drink/Stealth Rock/T-Wave
EV:252 ATK/126/SP.DEF/126 SPD

My team needs an Ice/Fire absorber, so she was perfect. This might not work for you.

Anti November 3rd, 2007 10:21 PM

Great switch-in to ice beam...since you need one if you're using a dragon.

Miltank is a red door and I want it painted black. No matter what color it is, it's still a door...basically saying that no matter what the set, you can't really change its strengths...poor analogie, but musical references are my thing. Basically, miltank is a great heal beller and I'd take advantage of that.

Archer November 3rd, 2007 10:26 PM

OK i edited the first post. Zen Hbut looks nice for gengars.
I also find out a while ago that milk drink can be used on the other poke in 2v2s.

Anti November 3rd, 2007 10:31 PM

Terribly walled by steels, a free turn for agiligross to power up.

EDIT: Or TTar :/ CB versions or gross and TTar do even more to your incoming pokemon with powerful EQs on the switch.

Archer November 3rd, 2007 10:37 PM

Can i use EQ for them, Drop Zen Headbutt for it?
Are gengars going to expect it to have scrappy?
It gets walled by them.

Samson November 3rd, 2007 10:38 PM

well this miltank is walled by all the aforementioned, but it does an excellent job with scrappy + seismic toss + thunderwave.

Archer November 3rd, 2007 10:49 PM

I was thinking (dont look so amazed), I definately want Heal Bell and Milk Drink.
Brick Break will hit Gross and TTar(nicely), so its a fight between BrickBreak and Zen headbutt. I really want thick fat.

Angelic Diablo November 3rd, 2007 11:30 PM

Earthquake hits the both better

Archer November 4th, 2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 3047031)
Earthquake hits the both better

Then i get walled badly by Gengar. There is no Perfect Moveset, so i guess i have to choose one.

Eleventyseventy November 4th, 2007 12:13 AM

Then get rid of Heal Bell, simple.
I think Scrappy works better, since Gengar is so OU.

~EQ
~Brick Break
~Milk Drink
~Body Slam

Lumine November 4th, 2007 12:20 AM

Is this going to be a cleric? tanker? sweeper?

Smarties-chan November 4th, 2007 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3047072)
Then i get the **** walled out of me by Blissey. There is no Perfect Moveset, so i guess i have to choose one.

I will have to ask you not to swear; any word that's automatically censored shouldn't be used in the first place.

Archer November 4th, 2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Sk8- (Post 3047091)
Then get rid of Heal Bell, simple.
I think Scrappy works better, since Gengar is so OU.

~EQ
~Brick Break
~Milk Drink
~Body Slam

I specifically wanted heal beller Cleric. I really am just looking for the combo of two moves that works the best for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarties-chan (Post 3047120)
I will have to ask you not to swear; any word that's automatically censored shouldn't be used in the first place.

Yeah that was stupid, sorry. I never swear on PC, i don't know why i did that.

Harry9756 November 4th, 2007 1:25 AM

Attacks:

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Return/Body Slam/Focus Punch
Shadow Ball/Thunder Wave

-or-

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave/Shadow Ball/Counter

Items Attached:
Leftovers

Preferred Nature:
Jolly

Archer November 4th, 2007 2:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry (Post 3047220)
Attacks:

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Return/Body Slam/Focus Punch
Shadow Ball/Thunder Wave

-or-

Heal Bell
Milk Drink
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave/Shadow Ball/Counter

Items Attached:
Leftovers

Preferred Nature:
Jolly

Um, 4th gen mate.
Oh and For the record, I specifically want it to be a cleric/tank.

Angelic Diablo November 4th, 2007 3:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3047072)
Then i get walled badly by Gengar. There is no Perfect Moveset, so i guess i have to choose one.

Not with Scrappy it doesn't

Miltank makes a better Physical tank than Special, and IMO Thick Fat is more for the special side of things anyway (yeah I know Elemental Fangs/Punches and other things)

[email protected]
Scrappy
Impish Nature
252 HP, 152 Atk, 106 Def
-Heal Bell
-Milk Drink
-Earthquake
-Body Slam/Return

EDIT: Was thinking Scrappy was Moldbreaker, silly me

Shadow147 November 4th, 2007 6:54 AM

I do agree though; fangs and punches are less common...

Scrappy's probably more worthwhile.

Arsibiyez November 4th, 2007 7:12 AM

She's supposed to be a mixed wall, so Thick Fat needs to be the superior Trait in this case. I do have my doubts as to Miltank's special walling capabilities, though she does reduce the common boltbeam to just... bolt. There is the danger of Focus Blast and Aura Sphere here and there. But if, say, we gave her Careful nature and enough SDef EVs?

EDIT: I should've posted a set. <duh>


Miltank @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
Careful Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SDef / 4 Def (based entirely on theory.)
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink
- Earthquake
- Zen Headbutt

The 2 attacking moves are purely to go against her main concerns. EQ to take care of the electrics she's walling, and for general damaging, and Zen Headbutt to counter her weakness, should she face them. Return could be there somewhere, maybe even Body Slam.

How 'bout Subpuncher? :/

Dark Azelf November 4th, 2007 7:29 AM

[email protected]
Impish Nature
evs: 252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Sp.def
Ability :Thick Fat / Scrappy
- Body Slam
- Earthquake / Zen Headbutt / Fire Punch
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Utility


Fire Punch is good for Bronzong and other steels, just note it is illegal with Scrappy due to it being a tutor move in 3rd gen and the ability scrappy didnt exist then.


OR Theres this


[email protected]
evs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SpDef
Impish Nature
Ability : Thick Fat / Scrappy
- Body Slam
- Earthquake / Zen Headbutt / Fire Punch / Heal Bell
- Curse
- Milk Drink

Utility and Curser


Hell it can even pull a mock Blissey with Thunder Wave and Seismic Toss.

Faceless* November 4th, 2007 7:31 AM

For Zen Headbutt, why would you stay in against a Gengar anyway? =\


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