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Kansas November 4th, 2007 7:45 PM

~*Alliance of Creative Battlers*~
 
This is the Alliance of Creative Battlers. This is a club for successful trainers who enjoy winning battles with unique strategies and like to think outside the box and trains their favorite Pokemon instead of just the ones that win all the time. For the trainers who are sick of fighting the same Skarmory, Blissey, and Garchomp over and over and over. For the trainers who appreciate a great strategic battle. This clubs for you

Things discussed in this club:
-Creative strategies involving non OU (Over Used) pokemon. *Creative uses for over used pokemon can be accepted... though there aren't many*
- Pokemon you want to see more of on the battle field
- war stories: this includes any battle or moment in a battle that involved your pokemon pulling through in an adverse situation against legends or an OU team and scored one for the under dogs.
- ask opinions about a move set or help training a unique pokemon.

Uber
Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys
Dialga
Giratina
Groudon
Ho-Oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Wobbuffet
Wynaut

Over-Used - OU
Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Azelf
Blissey
Bronzong
Celebi
Claydol
Cresselia
Donphan
Dragonite
Dugtrio
Dusknoir
Electivire
Forretress
Garchomp
Gengar
Gliscor
Gyarados
Heatran
Heracross
Hippowdon
Infernape
Jirachi
Jolteon
Lucario
Machamp
Magnezone
Mamoswine
Medicham
Metagross
Milotic
Ninjask
Porygon-Z
Raikou
Regice
Rhyperior
Salamence
Scizor
Skarmory
Slaking
Slowbro
Snorlax
Staraptor
Starmie
Suicune
Swampert
Togekiss
Tyranitar
Umbreon
Weavile
Weezing
Zapdos

Borderline- BL
Abomasnow
Ambipom
Arcanine
Armaldo
Articuno
Blaziken
Breloom
Charizard
Cradily
Crobat
Drapion
Empoleon
Entei
Feraligatr
Flygon
Gallade
Hariyama
Kingdra
Lapras
Leafeon
Ludicolo
Magmortar
Mesprit
Miltank
Moltres
Ninetales
Pinsir
Rampardos
Regirock
Registeel
Roserade
Sceptile
Shaymin
Steelix
Tangrowth
Tauros
Torterra
Uxie
Vaporeon
Venusaur
Zangoose

Moderately-Used- MU
Absol
Aggron
Bastiodon
Blastoise
Cacturne
Clefable
Cloyster
Dodrio
Drifblim
Dunsparce
Espeon
Exeggutor
Floatzel
Gardevoir
Glaceon
Golduck
Golem
Grumpig
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Houndoom
Jumpluff
Jynx
Kabutops
Kangaskhan
Kingler
Lanturn
Lickilicky
Luxray
Marowak
Meganium
Muk
Mismagius
Omastar
Nidoqueen
Nidoking
Octillery
Poliwrath
Probopass
Rapidash
Regigigas
Sharpedo
Shiftry
Slowking
Smeargle
Spiritomb
Swellow
Tentacruel
Toxicroak
Typhlosion
Ursaring
Vespiquen
Victreebel
Walrein
Yanmega


Under-Used- UU
Altaria
Ampharos
Arbok
Azumarill
Banette
Bellossom
Butterfree
Camerupt
Carnivine
Cherrim
Crawdaunt
Electrode
Fearow
Flareon
Froslass
Gastrodon
Girafarig
Gorebyss
Granbull
Hitmontop
Honchkrow
Hypno
Kecleon
Linoone
Lopunny
Lumineon
Lunatone
Manectric
Mantine
Wormadam
Mr. Mime
Persian
Pikachu
Politoed
Primeape
Purugly
Quagsire
Qwilfish
Raichu
Raticate
Relicanth
Rotom
Sableye
Sandslash
Scyther
Seviper
Shedinja
Shuckle
Solrock
Stantler
Skuntank
Swalot
Wailord
Whiscash
Wigglytuff
Vileplume
Xatu

Never Used- NU
Ariados
Beautifly
Beedrill
Bibarel
Castform
Chatot
Chimecho
Corsola
Delcatty
Delibird
Dewgong
Ditto
Dustox
Exploud
Farfetch'd
Furret
Glalie
Huntail
Illumise
Kricketune
Ledian
Luvdisc
Magcargo
Masquerain
Mawile
Mightyena
Minun
Mothim
Noctowl
Pachirisu
Parasect
Pelipper
Phione
Pidgeot
Plusle
Seaking
Spinda
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Torkoal
Tropius
Unown
Venomoth
Volbeat

*That is the list of tiers pulled from Bulbapedia*

A battle thread for testing pokemon and competing against each other will be created in the wifi battle section when the group achieves enough members

To join please post and leave your current team or fun rare pokemon you have trained to share with other members as shown below. The team can have NO MORE than 2 Over Used Pokemon in it


Evkay: Mismagius, Blastoise, Mightyena, Ninetails, Sharpedo, Jynx


~Owner~
Evkay

~Members~
Romance Hero
Hinamori_Momo
Nando

Romance Hero November 4th, 2007 8:06 PM

Spiritomb, metagross, rapidash, cloyster, drapion, and gallade

I DESPISE OU teams... As you said, what's the fun in two people battling with the same exact pokemon?

Congratulations on the making of this, and let it prosper with many creative members to come!

Kansas November 4th, 2007 8:08 PM

woot! thanks :D first member accepted accepted! invite your friends :D haha

First topic of discussion upon joining will also be to list your favorite pokemon you like to to see appear in a battle and why

Hinamori_Momo November 4th, 2007 8:37 PM

Don't forget me!

Raichu, Celebi, Absol, Rampardos, (2 fillers until my last Pokemon are finished training)

Currently in Training: Cacturne, Mightyena, Rapidash


As for the topic, I'd love to see some Absols in battle since I can't remember if I EVER battled one on wifi.

Kansas November 4th, 2007 8:40 PM

accepted :D welcome to the Alliance momo, and props for the Mightyena and Cacturne definitely.

What moveset are you planning for Cacturne, Momo?

Alex November 5th, 2007 3:36 PM

Something in this thread makes me feel iffy about having it in this section. Well, I'm gonna move it to the Other Clubs. It's not like it's more of a hassle to get to. XD

~Moved

Romance Hero November 6th, 2007 5:43 PM

Yeah, organized sections should be a basis in our alliance. Next thing we can add is like strategies for the UU's, possible. JOIN UP PEOPLE!! :P

Kansas November 6th, 2007 5:55 PM

Well lets start it out like this shall we? Momo wants to raise a Cacturne so i decided to look him up and help a bit....

Cacturne
Sand Veil
Quick Claw* leftovers

Leech Seed
Sucker Punch
Protect
Seed Bomb

EV's
252 ATK
252 HP
4 speed

what you think?

Romance Hero November 7th, 2007 6:08 PM

Dude, I'm working on a Pikachu, as a Sp sweeper, I hear it can deal some hefty damage, Also got an impressive Lapras coming up.

Nando November 7th, 2007 6:09 PM

I'd love to join. I'm planning a Trick Room team right now, though I haven't picked out all the Pokémon yet.

Kansas November 7th, 2007 6:10 PM

welcome to the alliance, Nando :D what ones are you thinking to use for your trick team? btw... whats your current lineup? for the record

Nando November 7th, 2007 7:55 PM

I don't really have a set team right now....for my Trick Room team, I know I definitely want to use Dusknoir (as the TR user), and I've set aside a Stunky to train into a Skuntank for it. I'm also planning to use Lickilicky, Rampardos and either Lucario or Kangaskhan.

Kansas November 7th, 2007 7:58 PM

thats pretty solid... i've been looking at a Kecleon as a launcher for TR on my own TR team... i don't think many people would expect it from a Kecleon

Romance Hero November 7th, 2007 8:03 PM

...won't kecleon die from one blow? even if you do get to pull the TR, you'd waste the pokemon... there could be others to pull the TR

Kansas November 7th, 2007 8:05 PM

if you look at Kecleon's spdef, i bet you'll be pleasantly surprised at what you see. and there are such things as focus sashes.... then teach it Drain Punch maybe... the possibilities are out there, just think... thats why this is the creative battler's alliance :D

Romance Hero November 7th, 2007 8:07 PM

I've already proven this to Nando xD but I love how protect in inaffective against hail/blizzard. Sorry bud, but they fall for it everytime ^^

Nando November 7th, 2007 8:27 PM

Which would fit better, Slowking or Slowbro? I want to use one of them too.

My early vision right now is a team of Dusknoir/Slowking(bro)/Skuntank/Lickilicky/Rampardos and for the sixth, either Tangrowth, Lucario or Kangaskhan.

Romance Hero November 23rd, 2007 2:24 PM

Might I say, I'm doing quite nicely with my select UU/BL's :) I need a snow warning starter, but I hate abomasnow ><

Kansas November 23rd, 2007 2:52 PM

haha unfortunately as far as snow warning goes... Abomasnow is your ONLY choice unless you wanna make it difficult and launch the hail yourself....

Romance Hero November 23rd, 2007 2:57 PM

yeah, but as I just found out, snow warning goes on forever until weather change (maybe) so that'd be great for my glaceon and lapras

abexum January 2nd, 2008 6:31 PM

I'm making an MU team and looking for some suggestions for my final two team members. I've placed all EVs on those listed, If I can't remember where then I listed relevant stats.

Absol
hold: ??
impish nature
252 att EVs, 252 spd EVs
Slash
Shadow Ball
Ariel Ace
Swords Dance

Aggron
hold: leftovers
relaxed nature, rock head ability
324 hp, 276 att, 504 def, 156 sp.d, 122 spd
Iron Tail
Double Edge
Iron Defense ??
Roar ??

Gardevoir
hold: quick claw
calm nature, trace ability
300 hp, 200 def, 340 sp.a, 304 sp.d, 201 spd
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Reflect
Calm Mind ??

Walrein
hold: chesto berry
calm nature, thick fat ability
401 hp, 241 def, 288 sp.a, 237 sp.d, 166 spd
Surf
Ice Beam
Rest
Sheer Cold ??

So far I've considered Dodrio, Marowak, and Exeggutor, but I have trouble getting the latter two in Ruby.

yes, this is my first post, sorry if this forum is archaic. I was looking for non OU team building advice, and google sent me here. thanks

Crimson Arcanine January 2nd, 2008 8:05 PM

I like to join up not because I'm a real battler or a hater of the OU block (through i do dislike) but because I generally battle what what I like regardless of tiers (unless its NU). Teams I try to make I try to use a differenr theme and I have set things I generally don't do. Done my major battling back in the Colour and Metal Generations, so i'm still unused to tactics for 4th generation. As I said before I like to generally to train teams of pokemon regredless of tiers, so I tend to end up with a few teams of verying strengths. I can tell ya some tales too but most of them wouldn't be too interesting (as they are about the old days when I could trash teams for my friends easily :D). To sum it up, I am only Semi-Competitive

Team(Semi-Competitive) - Lucario, Ninetales, Hitmonchan, Gliscor, Vaporeon, Pinsir (still needs training) [2 OU, 3BL and 1 MU]

Kansas January 2nd, 2008 8:51 PM

you're more than welcome, Souflame! feel free to share any battle talk you have.

and as for Abex... looking at your team at first glance, you may want to change your Absol's moveset a bit. having swords dance and using special attacks isn't going to work well. you should try night slash or sucker punch on him as well. also the nature, maybe jolly or adamant as opposed to impish, but if you prefer it that way, then thats fine. and the Aggron's last moves... Metal Burst is a good move to use on them. i use an Aggron and mine uses it in combination with a focus sash for huge damage. but this is all based off of 4th gen stats.... if you're talking based off 3rd gen like Ruby/Saphire i might have to do some extra research to help you out

abexum January 3rd, 2008 12:19 AM

yea, i'm stuck with third gen. Which means shadowball is a physical attack, so the swords dance is useful on all absol's attacks. I think the moves you suggested for aggron are only in 4th gen too. Any suggestions for the final two members? just looking at typing


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