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can you help me with this eevee themed team?
yeah I'm busy with a eevee theme team, a team with only eeveelutions. I did this a long time, and I planned to continue this. I do this because I love eevee and his evolutions. well my eeveelution team is:
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you see that I have some problems with choosing between some things. and other than that, are there corrections I need to do? a lot thanks in advantage! |
Well, Yawn is an option on Leafeon. You can keep Roar, but it is an option.
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well, I see to roar away heavily damaged or hard pokemons away, so that I can beat the weak ones later, and be stronger to finish the hard ones later.
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ive always wanted to do this sorta team, this is a cool set :)
not sure about sub and wish on jolteon, but thats just me. i mite be wrong but i cant see too many opportunities to use them |
not to offend anyone, but it seems people don't know why I have certain moves... I edit the first post by adding why I have the moves of every pokemon. hope that that helps.
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No no no dang it. I know why you have Roar, but Yawn is an option.
The biggest problem with this (& most Eeveelution teams) is that there is no one who has a top priority for giving outright damage. Who are you planning on leading with, Jolteon? (For quick Sub) |
Yeah, nothing can give out damage. Seeing as this has to be played in OUs...heracross is instant death. It murders umbreon and even leafeon with megahorn, and close combat destroys glaceon easily. Nothing stops blissey at all, which is a big problem. Sure, Vappt annoys it, but seriously, once it's gone, you'll be outstalled and overpowered by more powerful pokemon. Really, many CBers ravage this team. But since it's an eevee team, what really can you do?
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I don't care how many heracrosses you've beaten. If the user uses it properly, heracross can predict a switch-in (like espeon) and lol at it with a choice scarf megahorn, or even stone edge. How a heracross lost to a glaceon is beyond me. Since this is a theme team, you're gonna have to do the best with what you have. That means modifying tyhe movesets to beat as many OU threats as you can. By beat I mean counter, not "with really good prediction it works," since those assumptions send your team to its grave. EDIT: Yawn is still worth using :/ People use hypnosis, don't they? |
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yeah, I've met that several times, and I obsessed those moves, so that way I try to prevent to do such things. that way I beat heracross pretty much. explain the counter part, I don't get it completely. also explain why yawn is useful, I still don't see why. |
Yawn either:
-puts the opponent to sleep -or- -makes them switch, and with some easy prediction, gives you mismatches. Yawn = total win. Counters are pokemon that can switch in to the pokemon they are countering and then would have a very good chance at winning if both pokemon stayed in. for example: Jolteon can OHKO Gyarados with Tbolt, but it isn't a gyarados counter since gyarados OHKOs it on the switch with earthquake. Swampert is a TTar counter, since it can roar away DDs, withstand most of its attacks well, and hammer it with damage. |
- Don't use Fake Tears
- Lol, Baton Pass on Glaceon? - Umbreon does not know how to attack - Thunderbolt AND no Fake Tears on Jolteon. Shadow Ball - Leftovers on Espeon = Suicide - No Baton Pass on Vaporeon, use Ice Beam - Leafeon? Focus Sash Infernape obliterates this team |
It seems your only defences to all these pokemon is Vappy, and that won't last, lemme tell ya. Basically, this team is kinda outmatched. Better hope it isn't focus sash infernape I guess. I guess wish support kinda helps the cause, but still.
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Ok, we know this is a theme team, but no one is getting worked up. We are simply disagreeing, and stating weaknesses. Just because we disagree doesn't mean we are getting worked up. Don't be snippy.
Second, Yawn is an option, with Roar. They are both viable options. Glaceon & Jolteon has a chance of attacking offensivley. Umbreon ain't scaring anyone with Pursuit (or Payback, whichever you have up there), even if it is Taunted, it isn't fighting back with Payback, or Pursuit, or whatever. The only way this team thrives is via Stat-Passing chain. Not good enough. Infernape, Heracross, & Gyarados, (to an extent) ruins this. One of these must be a straight up attacker. |
Besides Payback......How much will Swords Dance help?
[email protected] Focus Sash Nature: Adamant EV: 252hp/ 200 Atk/ 56 Spd -Leaf Blade -Quick Attack -Aerial Ace -Swords Dance/ X-scissor Let's let Leafeon be the offensive one...^^; If Jolteon is going to be the lead...then it [email protected] Sash/Petyta Berry Nature: Timid EV: 4HP/252 Sp Atk /252 Spd -Charge Beam -Shadow Ball -Substitute -Agility Jolteon is a powerful pokemon as a lead. So much can be done with it... |
that leafeon set might actually give you hope against bliss...to keep this short, USE THAT SET!
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ok, with this help, I've applied that to the team on the first post. I've put the team now in a spoiler tab because of the long post. I've also looked for umbreon, but the only thing I found is an annoyer, which isn't that useful in this team.
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X-Scissor doesn't Poison. X.x; I'd suggest you use Substitute first with Jolteon, so it could possibly survive with those terrible Defense Stats. Good luck with this team though.
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then I was wrong about x-scissor. -_-' anyway I've edited it in the first post.
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I know, bumps aren't allowed, but this topic is death, and I want the team finished. maybe someone can tell me how to delete a specific post of yours, then that would help, but I mainly want this team finished.
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No bumping. If you know it's wrong, DON'T DO IT. Just create a new thread.
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I don't create a new thread by purpose: if I do that, there will be a lot threads that are the same in less than a week. I'm used to copy the last post, delete the last post and then repost it, then the thread is up without anything against the rules.
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I have a new Umbreon set that I am going to try out (EV training the Eevee atm).
[email protected] Orb Nature: Calm EVs: 252 Def/252 SD/6 HP - Mean Look - Wish - Curse - Baton Pass Toxic Orb to synchro-poison your opponent after trapping them with Mean Look. Then Wish to regain health, and Curse once or twice. Then BP the Curse (in my case it is to a Meganium i.e. my Cleric). |
that's pretty good, that might work, but a comment to the wish: wish doesn't heal yourself, but an another pokemon, it works a bit like destiny bond. the only difference is that instead of killing the opponent, it will heal a pokemon of your team. well this is at least what I heard, I might be wrong.
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Trait: Synchronize Nature: Bold Evs: 252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 SDefense - Baton Pass - Mean Look - Wish - Substitute / Taunt / Curse [email protected] Leftovers Trait: Synchronize Nature: Bold EVs: 252 HP / 172 Defense / 80 SDefense - Curse - Payback - Baton Pass - Mean Look |
Wish heals the Pokemon that is out at the time. OR, you could Baton Pass the Wish to another Pokemon. That way the health lost from taking the hit will be recovered.
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now I have 3 different umbreon sets, which is better? and kuro, that confuse me a bit, can you explain it with an example?
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Okay...
Let's set a scenario. Umbreon vs. Jolteon. -Jolteon uses Agility. -Umbreon uses Mean Look. -Toxic Orb kicks in, and synchro-poisons Jolteon. -Jolteon uses Thunderbolt. -Umbreon uses Curse/Wish. -Jolteon uses Thunderbolt. -Umbreon uses Baton Pass. This way, you can pass on the effects of Curse to another Pokemon or the Wish heal the Pokemon that is sent out due to Baton Pass. |
I see, now I understand it... then I´ll use that umbreon, that surely will help.
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Erm... okay Kuro - Synchronize doesn't Poison the opponent if the Poison came from something other than the opponents attack. The only way Synchronize works is if the opponent induces a status condition to you.
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Really? Well, that sucks.
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really? then I'll use the second umbreon of Azonic if that's the case.
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Even with curse, umbreon is going to need some defense. EDIT: As in, give it max Def.
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yeah that's true, I didn't thought of that. well umbreon needs high defense, so would it actually better to use the first umbreon set of Azonic?
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