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Matzzz November 5th, 2007 12:27 PM

Ground/Dragon Team
 
My new team im working on haven't done my Evs yet though:

Rhyperior
Lightnigrod
Modest
- Thunderbolt
- Hammer Arm
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Flygon
Levitate
Relaxed
- Earthquake
- Roost
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch

Whiscash
Oblivious
Lonely
- Surf
- Snore
- Earthquake
- Rest

Claydol
Levitate
Gentle
- Psychic
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Cosmic Power

Dragonite
Inner Focus
Docile
- Thunderbolt
- Fire Blast
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance

I'm not sure on the last one, i think ill use Torterra but im not sure on a move set

EDIT: Advice is apreciated :D

Spice Curry November 5th, 2007 12:35 PM

Dragon teams are not good at all; most of your team can be swept with ice attacks. Same goes for Ground teams. I'd suggest putting a variety of types into your team because in competitive play, this won't last long.

Shiraishi November 5th, 2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matzzz (Post 3051833)
My new team im working on haven't done my Evs yet though:

Rhyperior
Lightnigrod
Adamant
- Megahorn
-Avalanche
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Flygon
Levitate
Jolly?
- Earthquake
- U-turn?
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch

Whiscash=Lol I dunno
Oblivious
Lonely
- Surf
- Snore
- Earthquake
- Rest

Claydol
Levitate
Relaxed
- Psychic
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rapid spin

Dragonite
Inner Focus
Docile
- Thunder for Skarmory
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance

I'm not sure on the last one, i think ill use Torterra but im not sure on a move set

EDIT: Advice is apreciated :D

Omg. This is horrible. Whiscash is your ONLY defense against ice beam. Your natures are terrible. Your movesets aren't that hard to fix however. Theme based teams have to cover the expected weaknesses. For a good example of that, check out Azonic's sandstorm team which is..somewhere.

Matzzz November 5th, 2007 12:41 PM

this is atually for my clan battling (i speciallize in Dragon and Ground obviously) but i need to not only sort out my team building skills but i should change the types

ok thanks :D

Spice Curry November 5th, 2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Whiscash
Oblivious
Adamant
- Surf
- Ice Beam/Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest/Amnesia
Do not use Snore; it sucks, quite honestly.
But yeah, if you're looking for a better Pokemon go with Swampert who is infinitely better.

Anti November 5th, 2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matzzz (Post 3051833)
My new team im working on haven't done my Evs yet though:

Rhyperior @ Choice Band
Solid Rock
Adamant
- Megahorn
- Focus Punch
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

lol modest lol...Rhyperior is a physical attacker-special attacks are a waste. It also needs solid rock to help survive stuff like EQ. This CB set hammers lots of stuff, especially skarm on the switch with focus punch.

Flygon @ Choice Band
Levitate
Jolly / Adamant
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch

Roost isn't so hot, and taking away its best stat with relaxed isn't helping anything.

Whiscash
Oblivious
Lonely
- Surf
- Snore
- Earthquake
- Rest

I usually stop reading when I see snore...

Claydol
Levitate
Relaxed
- Rest
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam / Psychic
- Rapid Spin

claydol is a defensive pokemon :/ It's best as a spinner with psychic or IB for gengar switch-ins (to absorb rapid spin) and rest to heal. Gentle is lol since it needs defenses.

Dragonite
Inner Focus
Jolly
- Earthquake
- Fire Punch
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance

Nuetral natures are made of epic fail. and DD with only one physical attack? lol no. That's the DDnite I used...

I'm not sure on the last one, i think ill use Torterra but im not sure on a move set

NO!

EDIT: Advice is apreciated :D

Starmie tears this team to shreads, as does weavile. You have claydol, so switch out 2 of your many sweepers for skarmbliss and your defenses are covered. speaking of which, where are they? Anything with HP ice / ice beam, etc. destroys nearly all your team, and nothing can really stopthe beamers. you need to have counters for these kinds of pokemon.

Shadowthinker November 5th, 2007 4:45 PM

I believe you should keep your torterra and teach it Frenzy PLant.Also your Dragonite, it's really good.

Dunsparce November 5th, 2007 4:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemaster000 (Post 3052858)
I believe you should keep your torterra and teach it Frenzy PLant.Also your Dragonite, it's really good.

FRENZY PLANT?!?!?

Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Blast Burn, Water Cannon, Frenzy Pant, Rock Wrecker, and Roar of Time SUCK.

MegaDitto November 5th, 2007 4:54 PM

For a Ground/ Dragon team. I would use these pokemon. Though Ice type attacks will be a horror. They can be countered though. Just keep that in mind.

Swampert
Hippowdon
Garchomp
Swampert
Claydol
Dragonite/Salamence

Azonic November 5th, 2007 5:01 PM

Bleach and Sunshine, Why the poo would there be two Swamperts on one team!? D:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemaster000 (Post 3052858)
I believe you should keep your torterra and teach it Frenzy PLant.Also your Dragonite, it's really good.

*reports for bad suggestion*

lol jk. but seriously, all forms of hyperbeam SUCK. read dunsparce's post.

Why use Whiscash? Swampert pwns it.

MegaDitto November 5th, 2007 5:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 3052919)
Bleach and Sunshine, Why the poo would there be two Swamperts on one team!? D:



*reports for bad suggestion*

lol jk. but seriously, all forms of hyperbeam SUCK. read dunsparce's post.

Why use ? Swampert pwns it.

Double Copy Pasta? D:

Whiscash is a useful pokemon.

Swampert
Hippowdon
Garchomp
Claydol
Dragonite/Rhyperior
Salamence

ThePlaya November 5th, 2007 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matzzz (Post 3051833)
My new team im working on haven't done my Evs yet though:

[email protected]
Ability:Solid Rock
Nature:Adamant/Impish
Evs:252 HP, 129 Attack, 129 Defense
- Avalanche
- Hammer Arm
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
Move Thunderbolt, Nature, and Ability was horrible on it.Hes meant for Physical hitting.Sp.Moves are a waste on it.

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Ability:Levitate
Nature:Jolly
Evs:252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
- Earthquake
- Roost/Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch
The nature was wrong on it.

[email protected]Leftovers
Ability:Oblivious
Nature:Adamant
EVs:252 HP, 120 Defense, 120 Sp.Defense, 18 Attack
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest/Zen Headbutt/Tickle
What the heck....i dont know about whiscash.Who ev trains one.GO FOR SWAMPERT IF YOU WANT A WATER/GROUND TYPE!!!

[email protected]Leftovers
Ability:Levitate
Nature:Relaxed
EVs:252 HP, 129 Defense, 129 Sp.Defense
- Psychic/Rest
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam/Rapid Spin
- Cosmic Power
BAD nature on it!!!YOUDOnt take away its defense!!!

[email protected]/Yache Berry/Life Orb
Abilty:Inner Focus
Nature:Jolly
EVs:252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
- Waterfall
- Fireblast/Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
HORRIBLE nature on it.This moveset and nature would look better.

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Ability:Overgrow
Nature:Impish/Adamant
EVs:252 HP, 129 Attack, 129 Defense
-Wood Hammer
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Synthesis

I think this would be good for a torterra

or you can go with this poke...it will be about the only one besides wiscash that isnt weak against ice moves.

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Ability:Snow Cloak
Nature:Adamant
EVs:252 HP, 252 Attack, 6 Speed
-Ice Shard/Avalanche
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Hail

Pretty good tank i think...

or with this moveset

-Ice Shard/Avalanche
-Hail/Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Roar

You need a stealth rocker

I'm not sure on the last one, i think ill use Torterra but im not sure on a move set

EDIT: Advice is apreciated :D

Well this team will get LOLed at by starmie easily.Oh well i hope i helped:).

Anti November 5th, 2007 7:28 PM

For the record, waterfall doesn't do much for dragonite, especially the dragon dancing variant. And claydol without rapid spin is a sad claydol.

Shiraishi November 5th, 2007 7:29 PM

ThePlaya, Claydol without Earthquake is an emo Claydol..

ThePlaya November 5th, 2007 7:30 PM

well i edited and put rapid spin before you posted your post...i forgot he needs a rapid spinner.
And yeah he can go for fire/thunder punch or stone edge i think.......or thunder or fireblast.

EDIT:Yeah Shirashi in know....im putting some minor adjustments on it.

Anti November 5th, 2007 7:35 PM

Eh, might wanna read into some of this before posting a rate next time :)

ThePlaya November 5th, 2007 7:39 PM

Anti...are you talking to me??

Anti November 5th, 2007 7:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 3053402)
Anti...are you talking to me??

Well, yes, since calydol without rapid spin is like Bliss without softboiled kinda.

But anyhow, whiscash is usable, but yeah, swampert is better (mixpert FTW)

ThePlaya November 5th, 2007 7:44 PM

wait but i had rapid spin BEFORE you told me to put it....

Anti November 5th, 2007 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 3053431)
wait but i had rapid spin BEFORE you told me to put it....

No you didn't :/

I'm a good 99% sure on thatm, but it's beside the point. Really, claydol needs either IB or psychic for gengar switch-ins, and psychic can even help with heracross switch-ins too, which you lol at with proper prediction. Rest for healing...since it needs it.

ThePlaya November 5th, 2007 7:50 PM

yeah and after you get a few cosmic powers in...your good to go:P

Anti November 5th, 2007 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 3053445)
yeah and after you get a few cosmic powers in...your good to go:P

Cosmic power, for the record, isn't the best. Not on claydol at least, since it needs EQ, rapis spin, rest, and a special attack, leaving no room for it :/

ThePlaya November 5th, 2007 8:01 PM

well yeah it does....but cosmic power on it will work.But then you need the moves that you just said....so im not sure but ill go with cosmic power.

Anti November 5th, 2007 8:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePlaya (Post 3053475)
well yeah it does....but cosmic power on it will work.But then you need the moves that you just said....so im not sure but ill go with cosmic power.

Swampert used hydro pump! A critical hit! Claydol fainted!

In short, CHes totally destroy defensive stat-uppers, except cradily, which can quickly use recover.

Iceman3k November 6th, 2007 3:37 AM

Meh, I couldn't rely on running Rest on Claydol unless I had a Heal Beller handy.


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