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Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 9:18 AM

Speed Kills Team
 
This team is MEANT to be competitive... For starters, let me get to the rules of posting here...

1. No flamers- You know WHY!!!

2. The team is SPEED based.. The roles will be posted in the next rule...

3. Here's the roles to fill, Mind you 5 of six is needed, the captain is already here..

3a. The "Kenyan"
3b. The Fast Defender
3c. The Speed Finale
3d. The Faster Bouncer
3e. The Leader's Faster Man.


4. Here's the team based around... a 350 Speed, Lv. 100 Crobat...

CROBAT???? Why him? Well, No one I have FACE can OUTRUN him... So, let's get a competitive team of the finest Speeders and put them on a team... This is strange I know, but please, A great team iformed needs the support of many from many forums... This one is my most trusted one (Aside from My Own..) So, put your thinking caps on, and Run this...

5. You can fix Crobat's Moves and Items

Item- Toxic Plate

Fly
Defog
Sludge Bomb
Confuse Ray...


Happy Hunting (or HH)

Raziel X

El Gofre November 6th, 2007 9:26 AM

Im gonna get in quick: NO FLY! it gives time for a switch out, making crobats speed redundant. And defog's also pointless, most people play with evasion clause anyway. Try Arial Ace

Anti November 6th, 2007 9:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel_X007223 (Post 3054520)
This team is MEANT to be competitive... For starters, let me get to the rules of posting here...

1. No flamers- You know WHY!!!

2. The team is SPEED based.. The roles will be posted in the next rule...

3. Here's the roles to fill, Mind you 5 of six is needed, the captain is already here..

3a. The "Kenyan"
3b. The Fast Defender
3c. The Speed Finale
3d. The Faster Bouncer
3e. The Leader's Faster Man.


4. Here's the team based around... a 350 Speed, Lv. 100 Crobat...

CROBAT???? Why him? Well, No one I have FACE can OUTRUN him... So, let's get a competitive team of the finest Speeders and put them on a team... This is strange I know, but please, A great team iformed needs the support of many from many forums... This one is my most trusted one (Aside from My Own..) So, put your thinking caps on, and Run this...

Aero and jolteon share the same speed while only ninjask and electrode are faster (NOTE: I didn't include teh uberz in that...)

5. You can fix Crobat's Moves and Items

Item- Toxic Plate

Fly
Defog
Sludge Bomb
Confuse Ray...


Happy Hunting (or HH)

Raziel X

Defog is really useless. DELETE. Fly is even worse. DELETE. Confuse Ray is meh, I'd delte but it's your call.

I'd run a nasty polot set on crobat...and hypnosis sure helpes it. But meh, don't listen to me, as I'm no 4th gen crobat expert...

El Gofre November 6th, 2007 9:33 AM

ooh yeah i forgot about hypnosis on crobat :) i liked using him purely as annoyer back in my n00b days, toxic, mean look, Hypnosis and bite with Kings rock made me giggle against my noob brother :P

Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 9:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3054549)
Defog is really useless. DELETE. Fly is even worse. DELETE. Confuse Ray is meh, I'd delte but it's your call.

I'd run a nasty polot set on crobat...and hypnosis sure helpes it. But meh, don't listen to me, as I'm no 4th gen crobat expert...

That's cool, but I do have the problem about WHo ELSE is needed for the team....

El Gofre November 6th, 2007 9:41 AM

Go glisgor for defender, he runs quite well. Im not an expert on themed teams, so i wont pretend i know what im talkin about. here's a couple of suggestions:
Def: Glisgor
Finale: Rapidash/Arcanine, just cuz they're cool
not sure what u mean by those last 2 lol

hope i helped :)

Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3054579)
Go glisgor for defender, he runs quite well. Im not an expert on themed teams, so i wont pretend i know what im talkin about. here's a couple of suggestions:
Def: Glisgor
Finale: Rapidash/Arcanine, just cuz they're cool
not sure what u mean by those last 2 lol

hope i helped :)

Here's the definition of the roles for my team...

3a. The "Kenyan"- The Fastest one on the team..... And also, the Hardest hitter...
3b. The Fast Defender- A speedy wall or Speedy tank...
3c. The Speed Finale- The finisher.... Nuff said.
3d. The Faster Bouncer- The pokemon with disruptor abilities...
3e. The Leader's Faster Man.- He's suppose to fill the role of leader if the leader falls in battle...

Anti November 6th, 2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel_X007223 (Post 3054581)
Here's the definition of the roles for my team...

3a. The "Kenyan"- The Fastest one on the team..... And also, the Hardest hitter...

You usually can't get both :/ Weavile works for it though...

3b. The Fast Defender- A speedy wall or Speedy tank...

There are hardly any, but gliscor had decent speed.

3c. The Speed Finale- The finisher.... Nuff said.

You mean a late-game sweeper???

3d. The Faster Bouncer- The pokemon with disruptor abilities...

AKA annoyer...and annoyers are made of epic fail.

3e. The Leader's Faster Man.- He's suppose to fill the role of leader if the leader falls in battle...

I'm all a bit confused...

you might wanna check out compiled guides to see a better way to build a team. If you want speed, that's fine and dandy, but that doesn't give you an excuse to make a poor team, if ya know what I mean.

Spice Curry November 6th, 2007 10:45 AM

Just an FYI, I believe Hypnosis + Nasty Plot on Crobat is illegal together.

Anti November 6th, 2007 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spice Curry (Post 3054647)
Just an FYI, I believe Hypnosis + Nasty Plot on Crobat is illegal together.

Joy.

I guess you just choose one or the other...

Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 11:25 AM

Nasty Plot will surfice...

Anti November 6th, 2007 11:31 AM

you mean suffice?

I think it's nasty plot, air slash, sluge bomb, shaodw ball...but that's about all I know.

Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3054714)
you mean suffice?

I think it's nasty plot, air slash, sluge bomb, shaodw ball...but that's about all I know.

That's a good set.... Maybe if I added Night slash instead of Air Slash...??? Just a thought..

As for your remark on Making a poor team, that's why I have that list and roles... People have given me good ideas and the ways to use them...

All I know is I have a halfway decent team that is only HALF done..... (Hint Hint...)

Anti November 6th, 2007 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel_X007223 (Post 3054723)
That's a good set.... Maybe if I added Night slash instead of Air Slash...??? Just a thought..

But night slash is physical :/

As for your remark on Making a poor team, that's why I have that list and roles... People have given me good ideas and the ways to use them...

But I'm saying your roles are a bit messed up. Read the sticky, thatexplains very well how to construct a team...

All I know is I have a halfway decent team that is only HALF done..... (Hint Hint...)

So yeah...answers in BOLD of course. Though it should be noted that it isn't close to halfway done...

Spice Curry November 6th, 2007 11:41 AM

Crobat is better at putting things to sleep iirc, but here you go:

[Crobat] @Black Sludge
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Ability: Inner Focus
-Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
-Air Slash
-Sludge Bomb/Hidden Power [Fighting] (<-- for steels)
-Nasty Plot

Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spice Curry (Post 3054736)
Crobat is better at putting things to sleep iirc, but here you go:

[Crobat] @Black Sludge
Nature: Timid
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Ability: Inner Focus
-Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse
-Air Slash
-Sludge Bomb/Hidden Power [Fighting] (<-- for steels)
-Nasty Plot

Not bad... not bad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3054730)
So yeah...answers in BOLD of course. Though it should be noted that it isn't close to halfway done...

For some odd reason, I'm not getting the response that I wanted to here, considering that the last team I posted wasn't all that great, but got better replies... (But again, that's just me..)

I'm really considering abandoning this project until I raise who I want with the necessary moveset....

Anti November 6th, 2007 11:47 AM

Well, team building is pure trial and error. It took me at least 10 tries (probably more) to get a good Netbattle team...

Raziel_X007223 November 6th, 2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3054749)
Well, team building is pure trial and error. It took me at least 10 tries (probably more) to get a good Netbattle team...

True enough..

MOD... please close this one down.. This team will be put on hold for another time....

Faceless* November 6th, 2007 1:30 PM

Ninjasl can do the final sweeping very well actually, with Choice Band, or Choice Specs Yanmega

El Gofre November 6th, 2007 1:40 PM

ninjask with choice band; if it gets the chance to KO someone and let speed boost kick in its gotta be hard to stop

Anti November 6th, 2007 1:41 PM

CB ninjask is the only ninjask not countered easier than magikarp...so if you want to use it, use the CB set...

Faceless* November 6th, 2007 1:44 PM

Ninjask has 160 Speed, it really doesn't need speed boost

El Gofre November 6th, 2007 1:47 PM

but it gets it, theres no way of itr not getting it, so whats your point?

Anti November 6th, 2007 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gofre (Post 3055108)
but it gets it, theres no way of itr not getting it, so whats your point?

That it doesn't need speed boost O_O

El Gofre November 6th, 2007 1:50 PM

Meh, i stand corrected. Suppose it could help against a DDance-boosted poke, but not sure this situation would ever arise.


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