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Houndoom@Choice Scarf
Nature: Modest Trait: Flash Fire EV Spread: 252 SPD / 252 SPATK / 6 HP Flamethrower Dark Pulse Hidden Power [ Ice ] Overheat [ It's been an effective lead in the past and I doubt that'll change. Kills Weavile, Salamence, and Alakazam leads. ] Slowbro@Leftovers Nature: Bold Trait: Own Tempo EV Spread: 252 HP / 212 DEF / 28 SPATK / 18 SPDEF Surf Hidden Power [ Electric ] Calm Mind Slack Off [ My favorite Pokemon. Ever. I'm unusually lucky with HP Breeding, so I've managed to obtain a 70 Power Electric Hidden Power. Calm Mind once or twice. Then sweep. Slack Off when damage is becoming a nuisance. ] Mamoswine@Leftovers Nature: Brave Trait: Snow Cloak EV Spread: 172 HP / 136 ATK / 120 SPATK / 80 SPDEF Earthquake Blizzard / Ice Beam Stone Edge Substitute [ I like :horns: so I'm using it. Should I go with Ice Beam because I won't have Hail Support so accuracy could be an issue. ] Forretress@Leftovers Nature: Relaxed Trait: Sturdy EV Spread: 252 HP / 180 DEF / 78 ATK Gyro Ball Earthquake / Explosion Rapid Spin Spikes / Toxic Spikes [ It's Forretress. ] Infernape@Life Orb Nature: Naive Trait: Blaze EV Spread: 252 SPD / 172 SPATK / 86 ATK Close Combat Flamethrower Grass Knot Nasty Plot [ Mixed Ape for the win. ] Togekiss@Leftovers Nature: Calm Trait: Serene Grace EV Spread: 252 HP / 200 SPATK / 56 SPDEF Air Slash Flamethrower Thunder Wave Roost [ Self-Explanatory. ] |
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I think HP ice is for killing Mence leads ;)
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I caught a Heatran with 68 Power Hidden Power Ice so I'm thinking of swapping it in for Houndoom.
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sorry i started reading and felt a need to whine; whyyyyy did they wreck houndoom with this crappy sprite? he used to be so rockin...
oh and nice team :) |
Switched Infernape for Heracross.
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In that case, there's nothing like CBcross :) then there's scarfcross too...
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I went with CBcross. I had one bred for that purpose and so far it's annoying my roommate.
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Houndoom @ Choice Scarf Flash Fire / Modest Nature EVs: 252 Sp. ATK / 176 SPD / 80 ATK - Overheat / Fire Blast - Dark Pulse - HP Ice / HP Fighting - Pursuit / Reversal Pursuit covers Ghost and Psychic types, but Reversal can be a good move if Stealth Rock or Sandstorm are tearing Houndoom apart. I do believe that if Houndoom only has 10% HP left it can 2HKO Blissey and OHKO Tyranitar, which is good if you decide to use HP Ice over HP Fighting. Quote:
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Mamoswine @ Choice Band Snow Cloak / Jolly Nature EVs: 252 ATK / 200 SPD / 56 HP - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Ice Shard / Ice Fang - Peck / Ice Fang I would go with Ice Shard over Ice Fang as it helps with his average speed, destroys Dragons, and helps with his Grass weakness. Though if you like more power go with Ice Fang, but that will only mean you will have a harder time taking on Dragon types as they will most likely be faster. The last slot is up to you. Peck will OHKO Heracross and is there for pretty much that reason so I would go with this move if you’re Heracross weak. Ice Fang can go there if you wanted to keep Ice Shard and wanted the more powerful Ice attack and will be more useful to you than Peck. Quote:
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I think Mamoswine should be Choice Scarfed. Ice Shard on Mamoswine? Ice Shard is a Special Move with very low power, resulting in very minimal damage.
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Ice Shard is physical. Going first + STAB = kill on most dragons
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btw, nice Hidden Power on Slowbro. The only good HP I've ever gotten was HP Bug 60 on Pinsir. But now that it's special, it's kind of redundant to use it >.>; |
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Still, Mamoswine Choice Scarfed is feared by many. It can do a lot more damage to a lot more pokemon. |
Well, hello Lex aka Mr. RP Abandoner. Thanks for the suggestions. This team hasn't been the most successful so far, so changes are appreciated. (From testing on Shoddy before breeding which every good player should do.)
Aren't Pursuit and Reversal Physical? Should I go with Mild instead on Houndoom? I'm sorry Iceman, but I don't think I'm suited to use :horns: at all. I'm gonna go with Lex's suggestions. Switching Hera back for Infernape. I missed my Mixedape. =( Btw, I want my Houndoom to be able to outrun Scarfcross. How much Speed does it usually carry? |
assuming all scarf heras have 252 spd adamant, houndoom has more than enough with 252 SPD to outrun it.
but still, i wouldn't use houndoom for scarf =/ maybe specs, but it's really not suited for scarf. you can use it for inflicting status + taunt (a set i use). it's very effective. |
nice team... those HPs really seem to benefit them...
I personally would not expect an HP Ice coming from a Houndoom. |
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Yes, Pursuit and Reversal are physical which is why you add on the 80 ATK EVs. Plus Pursuit gets STAB and Houndoom has a base ATK of 90. Reversal's attack power is also based off of the amount of HP Houndoom has. But now that I think about the Choice Scarf set I beginning to notice that it seems to be his weaker sets. When I used him I ran with his special sweeping set: Houndoom @ Life Orb Flash Fire / Modest Nature EVs: 252 Sp. ATK / 216 SPD / 40 HP - Nasty Plot - Fire Blast - Dark Pulse - HP Fighting Nasty Plot gives Houndoom a power boost and after a single NP this set can do around 54-63% of damage to Blissey. But, if you want better accuracy you can replace Fire Blast with Flamethrower. Dark Pulse gets STAB and HP Fighting smacks Tyranitar around. If you can't get HP Fighting you can replace it with moves like Will-O-Wisp (Helps cripple physical attackers like Tyranitar), Substitute (A Salac Berry could be helpful with Substitute), and Taunt (Stops Blissey from sending those annoying status effects). |
Mixed Houndoom should have Mild nature (it's not like that 50 base defence is gonna make it take hits now, is it?)
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