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sims796 November 10th, 2007 8:14 AM

Review
 
I'm not in the mood for any crap today. I just want a rate, suggestions, necessary changes. If we can PLEASE suggest as little pokemon switches, as I don't want new pokemon.


[email protected]
Nature:Adamant
Waterfall
EQ
Dragon Dance
Taunt
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD

My standard Bulkydos lead. I just don't like Gengar starters.


[email protected] Sludge
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
HP [ICE]
Aromatherapy
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP/90 SP.ATK/140 SP.DEF?/30 DEF?

I accidently gave him DEF EV's, while was training him for SP.DEF. That mistake was brilliant, giving him great survivability. Also giving me unknown EV's. Should I had Sleep Powder or Stun Spore?

[email protected] Sash
Nature:Timid
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Focus Blast
Nasty Plot
EV:Max SP.ATK/Max SPD/6 SP.DEF

One Nasty Plot allows me to sweep. Takes out major threats with Sash. Ask Iceman :)


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Nature:Impish
Ice Shard
EQ
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
EV:252 HP/??? ATK/??? DEF

I've never done Phany before, & could use an EV spread.

[email protected] Band
Nature:Adamant
EQ
Return
Ice Punch
Milk Drink
EV:252 ATK/126 SP.DEF/126 SPD

HAH! CHOICE BAND MILTANK! Never expected. My haymaker.

[email protected] Clay/Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Night Shade
Whirlwind
Roost
Reflect
EV:252 HP/168 SP.DEF/68 DEF/22 SPD

Very annoying. High HP, take SP.ATKs like nothing, & Reflect makes it troublesome. Roost just pisses people off.

Well, give me rate & suggestions. As little substitutions as possible. I'm not in a very good mood today, so no bad rates, no annoying comments.

Anti November 10th, 2007 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3066809)
I'm not in the mood for any crap today. I just want a rate, suggestions, necessary changes. If we can PLEASE suggest as little pokemon switches, as I don't want new pokemon.


[email protected]
Nature:Adamant
Waterfall
EQ
Dragon Dance
Taunt
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD

My standard Bulkydos lead. I just don't like Gengar starters.

Very well then.

[email protected] Sludge
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
HP [ICE]
Aromatherapy
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP/90 SP.ATK/140 SP.DEF?/30 DEF?

I accidently gave him DEF EV's, while was training him for SP.DEF. That mistake was brilliant, giving him great survivability. Also giving me unknown EV's. Should I had Sleep Powder or Stun Spore?

Sleep powder. and I assume you know what your doing with your favorite pokemon, so moving on...

[email protected] Sash
Nature:Timid
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Focus Blast
Nasty Plot
EV:Max SP.ATK/Max SPD/6 SP.DEF

One Nasty Plot allows me to sweep. Takes out major threats with Sash. Ask Iceman :)

lol. alright, fine...

[email protected]
Nature:Impish
Ice Shard
EQ
Rapid Spin
Rest
EV:252 HP/??? ATK/??? DEF

I've never done Phany before, & could use an EV spread.

I love me a restin' donphan. Anyhow, run 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def

[email protected] Band
Nature:Adamant
EQ
Return
Ice Punch
Milk Drink
EV:252 ATK/126 SP.DEF/126 SPD

HAH! CHOICE BAND MILTANK! Never expected. My haymaker.

CBed milk drink? But looks okay...

[email protected] Clay/Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Night Shade
Whirlwind
Roost
Reflect
EV:252 HP/168 SP.DEF/68 DEF/22 SPD

Very annoying. High HP, take SP.ATKs like nothing, & Reflect makes it troublesome. Roost just pisses people off.

Looks good.

Well, give me rate & suggestions. As little substitutions as possible. I'm not in a very good mood today, so no bad rates, no annoying comments.

Overall looks good, but a huge boltbeam weak. Reflect from noctowl gives you decent heracross and Vire survivability, so I guess you're decent in countering those two, but I do see some problems. with the pokemon you have, you've done pretty well. With reflect you can probably send in gyarados (armed with intimidate ;)) and DD up while they either helplessly attack you or switch.

Faceless* November 10th, 2007 8:24 AM

Oh so you went in and stole MY Donphan do you =\

What happened to Gaia? ;_;

sims796 November 10th, 2007 8:24 AM

I need Stealth Rock. As for CB MIlk Drink, its for putting people off on CB. Ask Richard.

Also, Miltank has Thick Fat. & Donphan resist Bolts

EDIT:Gaia's on Vacation.

Anti November 10th, 2007 8:30 AM

Ah. It'll require a lot of prediction though...and what's gaia?

sims796 November 10th, 2007 8:32 AM

My Torterra. He's my Torterra.

Samson November 10th, 2007 10:03 AM

don't worry about sims' prediction skills. he's a great battler with surefire favorites.

i'm sure you were finally convinced that your fire weak was too much XD. donphan is nice and all, but i wouldn't bother with rapid spin. i know, crazy right? D/P has changed so much these days that there's no time to use moves like rapid spin that is too predictable. it's different on someone like claydol who can protect himself from his weaker defense stat with either light screen/reflect, but donphan relies on just his offensive movepool to surive. i'd rather give donphan knock off than rapid spin so that he can completely make a fool of your opponent by not only getting rid of the item that the switch in has, but knowing what kind of moveset they operate because of the item. i know you need rapid spin for raichu's focus sash to do its job, but i'm not a big fan of depending on focus sash when that pokes is not a starter. that's just my opinon on it.

i'm still a little iffy about aromatherapy on vileplume, but you've always made it clear that you're not a fan of status infliction (which btw, thanks to you and your awesome hoot-hoot, i've been able to control w/ psycho shift). truth is vileplume doesn't really have any other options when it already has HP ice. but still, i know you hate missing with sleep powder -- just give it wide lens. HP recovery is great and all, but missing ONE sleep can change the battle way more than 1/4 HP recovery over 4 turns.

gyara -- i should have offered to give you a Wacan Berry. leftovers is dandy and all, but gyarados can manage taking hits other than electric attacks.

and lol -- i remember how strong that return was on miltank. you must have raised it up a lot for it to like you.

looks good.

Arcknight316 November 10th, 2007 11:08 AM

if it can learn it, give donphan SR. also, whys everyone KFC employees now?

Anti November 10th, 2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkknight316 (Post 3067395)
if it can learn it, give donphan SR. also, whys everyone KFC employees now?

check the fanclubs thread...

And I personally don't endorse SR, but it's his choice. And Samson, of course sims can handle it. *bows down*

Dark Azelf November 10th, 2007 11:29 AM

On Donphan


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Impish Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 ATT
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Rest / Stealth Rock
- Rapid Spin


I highly suggest you use this as a full wall because you have nothing to take hits on the physical side.

You need Rapid Spin on this, Noctowl, Gyarados get 25% HP of health chipped off each time they switch into Stealth Rock which is not good and all focus sash ABUSERS users 100% NEED a Rapid Spinner on the same team. Also the rest of you team gets wrecked by spikes, i learned this the hard way.


You can abuse Rest with Aromatherapy or Stealth Rock for team support and to mess up focus sash users.


EDIT: Wheres Bronzong azwell ? maybe drop something for that to cover your gaping Ice Weakness (When Miltank dies)/Electivire weakness??

ThePlaya November 10th, 2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3066809)
I'm not in the mood for any crap today. I just want a rate, suggestions, necessary changes. If we can PLEASE suggest as little pokemon switches, as I don't want new pokemon.


[email protected]
Nature:Adamant
Waterfall
EQ
Dragon Dance
Taunt
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD

Id say its good.Hes a beast once he gets a couple of dragon dances.


My standard Bulkydos lead. I just don't like Gengar starters.


[email protected] Sludge/Wide Lens
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
HP [ICE]
Aromatherapy/Synthesis
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP/90 SP.ATK/140 SP.DEF?/30 DEF?

Ids say good(i don't know how to use it though)but maybe adding wide lens.That is what messed you up last time we battled.But Black Sludge is OK.But maybe Synthesis over Aromatherapy?And Wide Lens to give Sleep Powder a little more accuracy.

I accidently gave him DEF EV's, while was training him for SP.DEF. That mistake was brilliant, giving him great survivability. Also giving me unknown EV's. Should I had Sleep Powder or Stun Spore?

[email protected] Sash
Nature:Timid
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Focus Blast
Nasty Plot
EV:Max SP.ATK/Max SPD/6 SP.DEF

Id say good.

One Nasty Plot allows me to sweep. Takes out major threats with Sash. Ask Iceman :)


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Nature:Impish
Ice Shard
EQ
Rapid Spin/Knock Off/Rest
Stealth Rock
EV:252 HP/50 ATK/208 DEF

Yeah you need the defense.Your running weak on that.Maybe squeeze in Knock off.A blissey would sure hate to lose here lefties.But then again you do need rest to heal.

I've never done Phany before, & could use an EV spread.

[email protected] Band
Nature:Adamant
EQ
Return
Ice Punch
Milk Drink
EV:252 ATK/126 SP.DEF/126 SPD

Hmmmmmm........choice band miltank with milk drink??I guess

HAH! CHOICE BAND MILTANK! Never expected. My haymaker.

[email protected]Light Clay/Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Night Shade
Whirlwind
Roost
Reflect
EV:252 HP/168 SP.DEF/68 DEF/22 SPD

I would say good.....go for light clay.He needs reflect to stay in as long as possible.

Very annoying. High HP, take SP.ATKs like nothing, & Reflect makes it troublesome. Roost just pisses people off.

Well, give me rate & suggestions. As little substitutions as possible. I'm not in a very good mood today, so no bad rates, no annoying comments.

Id say you have a great team here.Changes in bold.

Anways i hope i helped.:)

MegaDitto November 10th, 2007 12:48 PM

Sims....as much as I enjoy battling you, I still can't. T_T

But I'll rate...


Gyarados @ Lum Berry/Focus Sash
Nature: Adamant
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Taunt

Leftovers may not be the best start for a lead Gyarados. But Lum Berry will protect you from the walls while you gain a Dragon Dance, and Focus Sash will defend from the sweepers or Gengars...

Overall, any of the items depending from which pokemon will give you a safe Dragon Dance.

[email protected] Band
Nature:Adamant
EV:252 ATK/126 SP.DEF/126 SPD
-Earthquake
-Return
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break/Focus Punch

If you will have Choice Band user, you might as well have an full set of attacks. Including an Fighting attack to counter part Normal types and Darks.

[email protected] Clay/Leftovers
Nature:Calm
EV:252 HP/168 SP.DEF/68 DEF/22 SPD
-Night Shade
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Reflect

I liked it better when it had Air Slash...

An Bleach posted thread....=D

Iceman3k November 10th, 2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3066809)
I'm not in the mood for any crap today. I just want a rate, suggestions, necessary changes. If we can PLEASE suggest as little pokemon switches, as I don't want new pokemon.


[email protected]
Nature:Adamant
Waterfall
EQ
Dragon Dance
Taunt
EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD

My standard Bulkydos lead. I just don't like Gengar starters.
Okay.


[email protected] Sludge
Nature:Calm
Energy Ball
HP [ICE]
Aromatherapy
Sleep Powder
EV:244 HP/90 SP.ATK/140 SP.DEF?/30 DEF?

I accidently gave him DEF EV's, while was training him for SP.DEF. That mistake was brilliant, giving him great survivability. Also giving me unknown EV's. Should I had Sleep Powder or Stun Spore?
I'd probably run Stun Spore to aggravate opponents.

[email protected] Sash
Nature:Timid
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Focus Blast
Nasty Plot
EV:Max SP.ATK/Max SPD/6 SP.DEF

One Nasty Plot allows me to sweep. Takes out major threats with Sash. Ask Iceman :)
HE TOOK OUT :horns: IN ONE BLOW ;_;

[email protected]
Nature:Impish
Ice Shard
EQ
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock
EV:252 HP/[B]80[B] ATK/176 DEF

I've never done Phany before, & could use an EV spread.
There ye go. That set works fine.

[email protected] Band
Nature:Adamant
EQ
Return
Ice Punch
Milk Drink
EV:252 ATK/126 SP.DEF/126 SPD

HAH! CHOICE BAND MILTANK! Never expected. My haymaker.
My god did that thing throw me off

[email protected] Clay/Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Night Shade
Whirlwind
Roost
Reflect
EV:252 HP/168 SP.DEF/68 DEF/22 SPD

Very annoying. High HP, take SP.ATKs like nothing, & Reflect makes it troublesome. Roost just pisses people off.
Okay.

Well, give me rate & suggestions. As little substitutions as possible. I'm not in a very good mood today, so no bad rates, no annoying comments.

Be on the lookout for Electivire. Scarfed Heracross might also be a potential threat.

Also, I'd probably exchange Gyarados's Leftovers for a Wacan Berry. It's best to scare off enemies at the start, make a first strike, then switch out and allow it to clean up later.

Lil MuDkiP849 November 10th, 2007 2:35 PM

hey im not here to rate i mean your team is fantastic but ever since i made the HP(fire) vileplume it's been dominating!! thanks for the set sims!! =D

sims796 November 10th, 2007 7:24 PM

All these post lightened my mood a bit. Thanks. I'm glad to see so few changes.

& Mudkip, No problem.

ThePlaya, I am unable to get both Synthesis or Moonlight.

Anti November 10th, 2007 7:26 PM

Syntehsis is screwed by sandstreamers and other random weather, making it a rather useless move anyways...

sims796 November 10th, 2007 7:28 PM

I wouldn't say that. Not "useless". Sandstorm is less common than I thought, & Torterra is a great wall because of it.

Anti November 10th, 2007 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3069494)
I wouldn't say that. Not "useless". Sandstorm is less common than I thought, & Torterra is a great wall because of it.

It still is a very bad move...TTar is so amazinghly common it's annopying. hooray for ADV where there was no sandstorm SDef boost!!!

Though yeah, torterra is a great tank, as long as the beamers are at bay ;)

Lil MuDkiP849 November 10th, 2007 7:33 PM

i think several random pokes like togekiss could secretly learn aura sphere JUST for the TTar reason, wouldnt you agree pop?? ;)

Anti November 10th, 2007 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil MuDkiP849 (Post 3069535)
i think several random pokes like togekiss could secretly learn aura sphere JUST for the TTar reason, wouldnt you agree pop?? ;)

Stone edge on the switch = OUCH. If it OHKOed, sure, but watch out if it doesn't...the SDef boost of sandstream is very ebil

Lil MuDkiP849 November 10th, 2007 7:37 PM

in several ways the sandstream on hippowden is what makes HIM tick even i think...i could be rong tho since ive never comes across one

sims796 November 10th, 2007 7:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3069525)
It still is a very bad move...TTar is so amazinghly common it's annopying. hooray for ADV where there was no sandstorm SDef boost!!!

Though yeah, torterra is a great tank, as long as the beamers are at bay ;)

I speak from experience. Synthesis saved my ass many times.

I don't see many TTars that often at all.

Lil MuDkiP849 November 10th, 2007 7:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3069647)
I don't see many TTars that often at all.

i dont either and i think it's because their so damn standard people jus' know how to get around it =/

Anti November 10th, 2007 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sims796 (Post 3069647)
I speak from experience. Synthesis saved my ass many times.

I don't see many TTars that often at all.

Well, I use wish support, so like I'd know ;)

I will say, you are very lucky you don't see TTar much ,since literally half the teams I fought 9of the few) in D/P had TTar...but you NOT running into it is a very good thing :)

Lil MuDkiP849 November 10th, 2007 7:54 PM

I'd rather run into it becuase of the fact whenever i do it's always one less poke i have to worry about, i take it out 1st turn it's out usually =PPP


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