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Archer November 11th, 2007 1:17 AM

*~Normal Team~*
 
I am going to make a Novelty normal-typed team. Before i posts movesets, i need to decide what is going in the team. Here are my thoughts...


Phys Sweeper - Slaking/Tauros/Kangaskhan
Spec Sweeper - Bidoof/Togekiss/PorygonZ
Physical Tank - Miltank
Spec. Sponge - Snorlax. NOT Blissey.
Baton Passer - Girafarig
PHazer/Status Absorber - Ursaring(guts)

Yeah so, tell me what to use. Make changes if you wish. No Blissey. Just no. I hate Blissey. Dont like Girafarig, but what else can do it? Will post movesets when team is decided.
BTW: Scrappy kangas hits spiritomb for 2x with hammerarm.

Angelic Diablo November 11th, 2007 2:51 AM

Where's the love for poor old Zangoose?

Ambipom makes a nice Nasty Plot Baton Passer...

Persian is a fast sleep inducer

shedinjask November 11th, 2007 4:31 AM

Persian needs to be there. And Swellow can also status absorb.

Iceman3k November 11th, 2007 6:29 AM

Why is Ursaring not in there >=o
His Quick Feet makes Paralysis abusers screw off. Swellow can be used to absorb Burns.
EDIT: now I see it lol

Ashes November 11th, 2007 7:01 AM

Bibarel is actually quite rape with it's Simple Ability.

I also enjoy the whole Fake Out/Last Resort set on an Ambipom.

But that's just a couple suggestions.

Dunsparce November 11th, 2007 10:25 AM

Use a Normal-Type BPer and Bibarel to wreak havoc.

Usable/Semi Usable Normal BPers and their move that could be used:
-Ambipom: Agility, NastyPlot, Psych Up
-Girafarig Calm Mind, Psych Up
-Togekiss Psych Up, Nasty Plot, and Mabye Ancientpower could work with Serene Grace.

All 3 of these got better options that BPing, but the only other options are Furret, Delcatty, Spinda, and Lopunny. Or Eevee, if you're into that kind of thing :/

Milke November 11th, 2007 11:43 AM

BTW, Girafarig isn't normal type, is it?

Anti November 11th, 2007 6:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperKyogreRuler (Post 3072077)
BTW, Girafarig isn't normal type, is it?

It's a normal / psychic type, so yes :/

Archer November 12th, 2007 12:13 AM

My answers.................in a pointless number format!!
1) So, baton passer - Ambipom. Nastyplot/agility/BP

2) For the Phys. sweeper, i prefer Slaking to Zangoose because its faster and can take a few hits.

3) I would rather a Serene Grace/Airslash Togekiss.

4) Ursaring is too slow to benefit from Quick feet. (base 55 spd. Jolly+QFeet=base91) So it think guts works better. Then i at least get to use his nice attack(base 130. Adamant+guts=195).

5) Persian is pretty fragile. Hypnosis has 70% accuracy, so its a gamble.

6) Can anything Spikes/StealthRock well? Shame no-one can Rapidspin.

Iceman3k November 12th, 2007 12:30 AM

Quick Feet Doubles Speed.

Angelic Diablo November 12th, 2007 12:39 AM

Miltank can use Stealth Rock, although he probably has better moves

CScarf Zangoose is quite a threat, or CB if you prefer power... I don't like Slaking (in single battles) due to Traunt

[email protected] Band/Scarf
Jolly/Adament Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
-Close Combat/Focus Punch
-Return
-Night Slash
-X Scissor/Aerial Ace

Return hits things hard, the fighting move takes care of Rock and Steels who resist Return, Night Slash destroys Ghosts who resist Return + Fight. Last move is really optional, I prefer Aerial Ace for Heracross who likes to rain on your parade, but X Scissor hits Grass types hard

Archer November 12th, 2007 1:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman3k (Post 3073576)
Quick Feet Doubles Speed.

Awesome. Ok, Quick Feet it is then.

@AngelicDiablo - sounds ok, but Jolly+CB or Adamant+CScarf?

Angelic Diablo November 12th, 2007 1:29 AM

I'd be tempted to run CS and Jolly so you can outspeed max speed CSHera, who would be a huge threat to your team otherwise

Archer November 13th, 2007 4:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelic Diablo (Post 3073642)
I'd be tempted to run CS and Jolly so you can outspeed max speed CSHera, who would be a huge threat to your team otherwise

Sounds good. Testing a team with miltank and slaking now on shoddy.



EDIT:



OK. Here are some movesets to criticise.

Togekiss @ ???
SereneGrace
Timid/Modest 252 Sp.atk+spd, 6Sp.def
-Air Slash
-AncientPower
-BodySlam/Extremespeed
-Aura Sphere

Bodyslam is for 60% parahax and Extremespeed is for hitting faster things. They are running off a negative nature, they arent made for damage.

Zangoose @ Cscarf
Jolly, 252 Atk+spd, 6 HP
-Crush Claw/Return
-Night Slash
-X-scissor
-Close Combat

Scarf to hit fast. Umm does it need explaining?

[email protected] Orb(Quickfeet)
Adamant, 252 Atk, 100 Spd, 160 HP
-Facade
-Night Slash
-Close Combat
-Earthquake

Toxic orb to activate quick feet + Facade. Other moves for coverage.

Snorlax @ lefties (thickfat)
Sassy? 200 HP, 100 Def, 180 Sp.def, 30 atk
-Crunch
-Double-Edge/Return
-Fire Blast
-Rest/Sub/EQ

Doubleedge because Snorlax has high HP. Crunch to hit ghosts. Fire blast sounds bad but it hits skarm a bronzong nicely. It is unexpected and works well on shoddy. Unsure for last move. Sub gives at least on free lefties heal, Rest is better, but lets someone switch in (could switch to heal bell from Miltank). EQ to hit TTar.

I have decided miltanks set. Cleric/PhysWall. Ambipom has Nastyplot, agility, BP, double hit(technician).

Syaoran November 13th, 2007 5:04 AM

No Linoone an Lickilicky? :(

Licki with custap berry + Explosion is just awesome. STAB on BOOM. ouch!
And Linoone could potentially sweep an entire team after a Belly Drum.

Linoone @ Salac Berry (Gluttony)
Adamant, 252 Atk, 136 Spd, 120 HP
-Belly Drum
-Substitute
-Shadow Claw
-Extremespeed

Faceless* November 13th, 2007 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syaoran (Post 3077648)
No Linoone an Lickilicky? :(

Licki with custap berry + Explosion is just awesome. STAB on BOOM. ouch!
And Linoone could potentially sweep an entire team after a Belly Drum.

Linoone @ Salac Berry (Gluttony)
Adamant, 252 Atk, 136 Spd, 120 HP
-Belly Drum
-Substitute
-Shadow Claw
-Extremespeed

It's hard to get Linoone with Extremespeed, I have one, but I had to buy the Pokemon Box game just for that..

But this is walled by Rock/Steel types

Archer November 13th, 2007 6:22 AM

What about Snorlax, i want him as a spec sponge. Sleep talker is dodgy. Curselax maybe. What do you guys think of my moveset?

EDIT: new idea!!

Lax @ lefties (thick fat)
Impish | 160 HP, 100 Def, 148 Sp.def, 100 atk
-Curse
-Fire Punch
-BodySlam/Return
-Rest/Sub

Firepunch is unusual on the normal Curselax, but it hits ghosts (bodyslam doesnt) and smashes Skarm and Bronzong. It basically offers much better coverage than crunch. Substitute is a nice possibilty as it gives you a free leftovers recovery and if the opponent doesnt break it, you get another turn of recovery. It also gives you something to curse behind and stops burn problems.

J-Rad November 13th, 2007 7:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3077724)
What about Snorlax, i want him as a spec sponge. Sleep talker is dodgy. Curselax maybe. What do you guys think of my moveset?

EDIT: new idea!!

Lax @ lefties (thick fat)
Impish | 160 HP, 100 Def, 148 Sp.def, 100 atk
-Curse
-Fire Punch
-BodySlam/Return
-Rest/Sub

Firepunch is unusual on the normal Curselax, but it hits ghosts (bodyslam doesnt) and smashes Skarm and Bronzong. It basically offers much better coverage than crunch. Substitute is a nice possibilty as it gives you a free leftovers recovery and if the opponent doesnt break it, you get another turn of recovery. It also gives you something to curse behind and stops burn problems.

since im too lazy to type, http://serebii.net/potw-dp/143.shtml tells u all about snorelax

Archer November 13th, 2007 7:52 AM

@Dragonzilla - i have already read that. I really want other people's personal opinions.

J-Rad November 13th, 2007 8:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer (Post 3077847)
@Dragonzilla - i have already read that. I really want other people's personal opinions.

ooo srry i prefer curslax urs seams ok


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