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Chompah :x November 11th, 2007 2:00 AM

z0mg nais team cheeseburger
 
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Jolly [+spd]
252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
-Cross Chop
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch

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Jolly [+spd]
252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Substitute

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Careful [+sdef]
140 hp/116 atk/252 sdef/
-Return
-Crunch
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

any suggestions for the other 3 slots?

Lumine November 11th, 2007 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis. (Post 3070480)
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Jolly [+spd]
252 atk/252 spd/6 hp
-Cross Chop
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch/ Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

If you fear Skarmory consider switching Thunder Punch for Thunderbolt

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Jolly [+spd]
252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Substitute/Fire Blast

Looking alright for a physical sweeper, Garchomp has quite semi frail defense so substitute wont do any good, but hey sometimes it works

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Careful [+sdef]
140 hp/116 atk/252 sdef/
-Return
-Crunch
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Meh

any suggestions for the other 3 slots?

You need to have a special sweeper and a decent physical waller, try Gengar/ Alakazam/ Porygon-Z for special sweepers, Forretress/Skarmory/Steelix etc etc you get the idea for physical wallers

Azonic November 11th, 2007 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memphis. (Post 3070480)
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Naive
252 Speed / 228 Attack / 28 SAttack
-Cross Chop
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

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Naive
228 Attack / 28 SAttack / 252 Speed
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Fire Blast

any suggestions for the other 3 slots?

3 physical attackers? ._.;

Anti November 11th, 2007 7:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 3070908)
3 physical attackers? ._.;

Garchomp can be mixed and snorlax is more of a tank that blocks special hits very well. I mean, it is a tad unbalanced, but can work...

Lumine November 11th, 2007 7:26 AM

A decent normal team usually consists of 2-3 physical sweepers anyways.

Anti November 11th, 2007 7:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumine (Post 3071253)
A decent normal team usually consists of 2-3 physical sweepers anyways.

Since when? I have 1 physical sweeper on my team, it's all I need. I actually prefer 2, but isn't 3 a bit of overkill?

Lumine November 11th, 2007 7:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3071267)
Since when? I have 1 physical sweeper on my team, it's all I need. I actually prefer 2, but isn't 3 a bit of overkill?

I guess its just me xD, I only have a max of 2 aswell =P.

Iceman3k November 11th, 2007 7:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3071267)
Since when? I have 1 physical sweeper on my team, it's all I need. I actually prefer 2, but isn't 3 a bit of overkill?

5-6 tanks is probably overkill.

In my teams, I'm most likely to run with:
1 Primary Physical Sweeper (like a Choice Attacker of some sort)
1 Special Sweeper
and 1 Clean-Up Sweeper (Something with Dragon Dance most likely, cleans up all the other stuff). The Clean-up sweeper is optional, but I run it as a precaution.
Then I run with 1 Physical Wall, 1 Special Wall, and a Dual Wall or something to fill the slot with.

But I'll be honest, using more than 3 sweepers? Total overkill. Now then:

Quote:

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Lonely
232 Atk / 176 Spd / 100 SAtk
-Cross Chop
-Fire Punch
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch
Total overkill on the Speed, mate.

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Jolly [+spd]
252 atk/252 spd/ 6 hp
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Substitute
I guess this is okay.

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Careful [+sdef]
172 HP / 40 Atk / 120 Def / 176 SDef
-Return
-Crunch
-Rest
-Curse
Snorlax with no curse makes Armored Adversaries scoff at you.

any suggestions for the other 3 slots?
You require the following:
- Physical Tank (preferably something that can abuse Spikes or Stealth Rock OR Rapid Spin even
- Special Sweeper (because sometime Sp. Sweepers are hawt okay)
- Either a healer or a total prick annoyer (something like Dusknoir for Rapid Spin blockage and Normal / Fighting resistance)

Personally, I'd think about running Vaporeon for Wish Support and Dusknoir for Physical resistance. With Vaporeon, you can EASILY get Electivire Set up to pull an assault.

Anti November 11th, 2007 8:36 AM

I don't run 5 tanks...I have one actually. I like me late-game and special sweepers :)

Well, use Iceman3k's EVs for snorlax. But Vire kinda nails all three of these pokemon. I mean, snorlax has a shot, but...nvm

Lumine November 11th, 2007 8:39 AM

Also to be able to run substitute on Garchomp you need high HP IVs, consider a PHazer in your team aswell.

Anti November 11th, 2007 8:40 AM

No, the team needs a PHazer. I personally think every team needs one, but that's just me I suppose.

Chompah :x November 12th, 2007 11:53 PM

So the 3 shots can be filled by Skarmory, Vaporeon, Weezing?


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