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Dragon Tamer Ed November 11th, 2007 7:05 AM

Uber Pwnage
 
I'm not normally one to use Legendarie, let alone Ubers, but I thought I would make a team just for the Ubers metagame, where they won't be considered the n00b's way to an easy win. Rate & Fix:

[email protected] Band
Jolly
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-ThunderPunch

Choice Band Sweeper derived from Draco Meteor-ing Specs-Mence.

[email protected] Scarf
Modest
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-(Any ideas?)

Water Spout loses power as Kyogre loses HP, but with over 400 Sp.Atk & Spd, and 300 base Power (Factoring in Drizzle + STAB), he won't be gettin' hit much.

[email protected] Bell
Jolly
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-ThunderPunch
-Bulk-Up

Shell Bell is Groudon's only way of Recovery, and due to mediocre speed, he will need it. However, factoring in Groudon's very high Atk and Bulk-Up, it's more effective than you might think.

[email protected] Orb
Timid
-Dark Void
-Nightmare
-Dream Eater
-Dark Pulse

For help in set-ups, and a Dark/Ghost resistance.

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Bold
-Calm Mind
-Aeroblast
-Recover
-Shadow Ball

Standard Lugia. Long-lasting tank.

Speed [email protected]
Impish
-Cosmic Power
-Zen Headbutt
-Recover
-Brick Break

This is just what happened with my shiny Deoxys. Not seemngly impressive, but with good Speed, Cosmic Power and Recover, it's harder to tackle than it first appears.

Azonic November 11th, 2007 7:21 AM

Kyogre can throw in Rest or Calm Mind for the last slot. It needs a defensive move - it has all the offenses it needs

Anti November 11th, 2007 7:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 3071233)
Kyogre can throw in Rest or Calm Mind for the last slot. It needs a defensive move - it has all the offenses it needs

Actually, choice scarf kyogre is a huge threat in Ubers...CM wouldn't really help it.

Hidden power could be useful. I'm not familiar with kyuber's 4th gen movepool, so yeah...

LethalTexture November 11th, 2007 7:38 AM

Here's a tip with Kyogre and Groudon:

Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 Sp. Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder
Water Spout

I'd put the specs on Kyogre instead. Send this out and mash things. Nuff said. Double STAB (Water Type and Drizzle) Water Spout at Max HP can 2HKO a max Sp. Def Blissey, so if you can draw your opponent to switch to Blissey, it works out perfectly.

Groudon @ Salac Berry/Life Orb
Adamant/Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP

Swords Dance
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
ThunderPunch/Rock Polish

Here, the key is to Swords Dance while your opponent damages you and activates Salac. Then proceed to sweep. This can be devastating, but it is also very risky. If you don't want to take the risk, run Rock Polish and Life Orb instead.

Azonic November 11th, 2007 7:47 AM

Calm Mind > Choice Specs

They offer the same Special Attack boost but Calm Mind gets Special Defense boost as well.

Anti November 11th, 2007 8:41 AM

You do lose a moveslot though if you use CM

Azonic November 11th, 2007 8:43 AM

Btw, the Dark Void / Nightmare / Dream Eater is complete fail. Darkrai already has Bad Dreams and that strategy is ruined by a simple switch on pokemon.

EDIT: on a further note, Giratina is definitely a suitable wall. Its massive HP stat is rare, and SR/Icebeam Blissey.

Milke November 11th, 2007 11:41 AM

Why don't you put Eruption on Groudon?

Azonic November 11th, 2007 12:55 PM

Attack Deoxys w/ Focus Sash is preferred over Speed Deoxys.

Focus Sash lets it survive for one turn and get Speed Deoxys out.

Deoxys's Speed is high enough at 150 base, just inflict the most damage possible.

Shiraishi November 11th, 2007 2:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperKyogreRuler (Post 3072073)
Why don't you put Eruption on Groudon?

Because Groudon's Sp att sucks for an uber.

Anti November 11th, 2007 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperKyogreRuler (Post 3072073)
Why don't you put Eruption on Groudon?

Because special groudon is mere novelty.

evilcheese November 11th, 2007 7:29 PM

choice scarf kyogre pwns this is why i had trouble beating mysterial.

where arceus with a total of 720 he should be there

Richard Lynch November 11th, 2007 7:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 (Post 3072719)
Because special groudon is mere novelty.

Actually, something like Fire Blast is a must on Groudon... otherwise an almighty Uber can and will be beaten by a mere OU like Skarmory, or Bronzong.

Dragon Tamer Ed November 12th, 2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilcheese (Post 3072990)
where arceus with a total of 720 he should be there

Because I'm pretty sure he's illegal. If I used Arceus I'd be called a Hacker all over the joint. But when I CAN get & use one, I probably will.

Anyway if Darkrai won't work, what could I use in its stead to resist Ghost/Dark moves? After all I have 2 Psychic types...

Anti November 12th, 2007 1:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Steel (Post 3073056)
Actually, something like Fire Blast is a must on Groudon... otherwise an almighty Uber can and will be beaten by a mere OU like Skarmory, or Bronzong.

I was talking about the sunnybeaming all-special one. even for killing steels, fire blast would be much better. I mean, eruption is so situational.


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