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Review 2.0
I have thought of some things I must accomplish, & I decided on a few things. I shall describe my roles, since I thought these up. Here are my canidates, I need help deciding:
Physical Sweeper [email protected]/Wacan Berry Nature:Adamant Waterfall EQ Dragon Dance Taunt EV:212 HP/16 ATK/180 DEF/100 SPD OR [email protected] Band Nature:Adamant Return EQ Ice Punch Milk Drink/Brick Break EV:252 ATK/126 SPD/126 HP These] two can hit hard, and absorb Ice Attacks. SP.SWEEPER [email protected] Sash Nature:Timid T-bolt Grass Knot Focus Blast Nasty Plot/T-wave/Substitute MAX SP.ATK, SPD/6 SP.DEF EXPLAINED IN PREVIOUS THREAD. Althought T-wave & Substitute (minus Focus Sash) has become options. MIXED SWEEPER [email protected] Orb/Choice Scarf Nature??? EQ Dragon Claw/U-Turn Fire Blast Roost EV:??? I need help on an EV spread. & Nature. He's my Skarmbliss killer. PHYSICAL WALL/RAPID SPINNER/STEALTH ROCKER [email protected] Nature:Relaxed Gyro Ball EQ/Explosion Stealth Rock/Spikes Rapid Spin EV:??? I forgot about Forry. He's for spinning, laying traps, & walling. Also for taking backup Ice Beams. Need EV help. SP.WALL [email protected] Sreen Nature:Calm Night Shade Whirlwind Roost Reflect EV:252 HP/168 SP.DEF/68 DEF/22 SPD READ PREVIOUS THREAD. Flygon, Forry, & Gya/Miltank absorbs hits she cannot. CLERIC [email protected] Sludge/Wide Lens Nature:Calm Energy Ball HP [ICE] Aromatherapy Sleep Powder/Stun Spore EV:SEE PREVIOUS THREAD SEE PREVIOUS THREAD. Gotta make room for Plume! Well, note the changes, & help me make up my mind! |
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Oh yeah, Torterra was my Vire Killer. I'll just be cautios.
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Hmmmm, yes, you have a big vire weakness now that I look at that. Finally someone chooses a special wall other than blissey! Yay! :)
I'm sick to death of n00bs and the like asking for rates with in-game movesets and a team consisting of Blissey, Tyranitar, Dragonite, Salamence, Garchomp and Weavile! ~M51 |
Gyarados & Flygon can handle Vire with proper prediction.
Wait, Iceman, why is Flygon losing Speed? |
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After Review: I'll say this, this team hhas potential to reek havoc on everyone, My comment may be lame, so take it with a grain of salt and use what you know... |
Well, thanks for trying, but those suggestions aren't too hot.
First, you should never suggest IV's. Thats a major waste. I know the best IV's, & you can never predict those exact IV's. You get whatever's best. Plus, Forretress should never have high SPD IV's. Shadow Ball is a waste on Noctowl. It can't hit too hard, & both Night Shade & Shadow Ball hits the same things-& both falter to Normal types. Two Ghost type moves suck, & Noctowl isn't meant to hit, but Night Shade allows it to fend off attackers-like Blissey. Forry doesn't need Toxic Spikes, Gyro Ball is a great offensive move for a slow poke like him, plus, Toxic Spikes isn't a great move, since STEEL & POISON (Gengar) blocks those utterly. Don't ever underestimate T-wave. 100% paralysis>30&% paralysis, although I'll stick with Nasty. Finally, I'm not a noob, I know the characteristics. Thanks for trying, though you may wanna get more experience before rating. |
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#2. I thought that looked ok, but again, leave it to me to screw something up... #3. The Forrest with Toxic Spikes was used against me with some success, where I raped someone else's Forrest for using Gyro... (At the Time, Lucario was at ownage status...) But again, I knew what was to happen in advance, but still someone's idea is worth something... (:disappoin Oh well.. Can't win them all) Anyways, HH and enjoy. Raziel X |
Well, I appreciate your help anyway. I know you weren't calling me a noob, but thats the impression you give when you tell the IV's they should have, and, especially, the characteristics. Thats common knowledge.
You just need practice, thats all. You're not "bad", but you need to get better. |
Good enough....
Peace for now.. I pretty sure that our path will cross again today at some point in another rate thread... |
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although gyarados gets a good stab w/ waterfall, i would go with ice fang 1st for more type coverage.
about the only thing that could wall u with ice fang is bronzong, while waterfall + eq would be walled by anything under the sun. even another gyarados. and gdos > miltank anyday :D |
Don't underestimate Miltank. I'll try Ice Fang, you guys seem insistant, at least until I get Stone Edge.
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waterfall + stone edge has better coverage. i'd rather go with that and also, losing STAB sucks =/. rather not be walled by bronzong. i'd go with wacan berry. it's not about who gyara can switch into, it's about who can switch into gyara. if the person is prepared, they'll have a gyara counter, and don't be surprised when something as simple as choice scarf + tbolt/hp electric/shock wave/charge beam/thunderpunch is all they have for a gyara counter. even w/o scarf, a metagross would survive EQ it after one DD and would revenge kill w/ tpunch. it's just not something that you should let happen.
flygon! yay. go with the scarf set if you need speed. otherwise, life orb is just as good. you don't have to make it defensive if you want to give it roost, but the set that Iceman gave you for flygon is very nice. i like subdefensive attacking on sweepers. explosion on forry is just fine. gyro ball, on the other hand... not a fan of it. i've never had a positive outcome w/ gyro ball. bulky waters/steels/snorlaxes/fires make nothing of it. but that's just my opinion. i eventually got rid of gyro ball and replaced it with light screen lol your Noctowl must have like infinite manas considering that its hold item is Light Screen XD |
Damn you ALL! You guys spared no expense to take advantage of my hacked Noctowl's Light Screen!
I think I'll Scarf Flygon. Few pokes outspeeds it, but it becomes less able to handle both Skarmory & Blissey on the switch. Life Orb is good, but it leaves out the speed I crave. I'm conflicted. |
i'd prefer life orb specifically for this team. you have the same problem going on that we discussed -- the need for switching in and out too much. with flygon, you have his weaknesses covered well, so i don't see the need to give him scarf if he can deliver damage before switching out.
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Plus, I have U-Tub-I mean, Turn, if I MUST switch.
OK, time for me to find that Life Orb. Where in Stark Mountain is it? |
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